Fall Camp 2022

NRHorn said:
Does anyone here feel UT is better than last year? I Do.
For crying out loud UT had one WR who stood out and he was an unproven FR.
Worthy, JWhitt healthy, Tariqu, Troy, Brennan Thompson , Cain, Alexis, maybe Hall, word has it that he’s at least trying to get straight. A trio of really good TE’s.
The OL still should be better, the LBs are better and I feel the DL will be better…
Folks we should have been a 9 win team last year.
UT has a young man named Bijan at RB and I do feel Brooks is going to suprise people.
WE ARE GOING TO BE OKAY.
Dam, I wished Neyor was good. Loosing Junior hurts as well, but enuf of this doom and gloom.
We weren’t going to the playoffs anyway. So relax and live in the moment.
Football is right around the corner.
Haiku over.
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Yeah, but Neyor was the player I wanted to see most after Bijan. Say we finish 9-3 this year. Good, right? Well, it could be CFP with Neyor then. Of course, this is playing in my mind. We will never know for sure.
 
mc,

I had multiple visions of Neyor at 6'3" with that 46' vertical catching a fade from Ewers against those midget DBs every time we got in the OU red zone.

For those not familiar or who have forgotten about "the fade" because it wasn't in the binder, it works wonders in mismatches, unless you're OU and run against a 6'4" three-time state high jump champion four times.
 
dukesteer said:
If you include Barron and Collins, one could argue that we have already lost over 20% of our projected starters, and the fall camp is only two weeks in. Is this simply a result of bad luck, coincidence, or something more?

I always wonder if the strength and conditioning folks err to the side of muscling up and endurance, at the expense of flexibility. I don’t have access to the regimen so I don’t know. (Perhaps others on this board do have access.) However, what I do believe to be the case is that flexibility is underrated, and that muscled up players like (just one example) Whittington, are more prone to injury.
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In fall camp, Jake Smith had a debilitating non-contact leg injury two years in a row. In fall camp, Omiere had a debilitating non-contact leg injury two years in a row. This year in fall camp so far, both Isaiah Neyor and Junior A. had debilitating non- contact leg injuries. Those don’t include sprained ankles, pulled groins, hamstring pulls, etc.

The question must be asked what is going on with that field in fall camp that is causing so many non-contact, season ending injuries.
 
OrangeClad said:
In fall camp, Jake Smith had a debilitating non-contact leg injury two years in a row. In fall camp, Omiere had a debilitating non-contact leg injury two years in a row. This year in fall camp so far, both Isaiah Neyor and Junior A. had debilitating non- contact leg injuries. Those don’t include sprained ankles, pulled groins, hamstring pulls, etc.

The question must be asked what is going on with that field in fall camp that is causing so many non-contact, season ending injuries.
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The question is certainly legitimate. The common denominator is the field, turf, and the player position, receiver. Beyond that, perhaps not so much. So, are these injuries coincidence — and indeed they could be, or is there a pattern (a cause and effect) that can be examined and explained?

We probably won’t determine the answer on this board, but no doubt individuals at programs like Texas are in the process of delving deeper. Wouldn’t we love to know a) how our experiences compare to other programs around the country, b) how training methodologies vary, c) do factors like weather play into the issue, and much more.

Turf versus grass seems obvious. I continue to believe that flexibility training or the lack thereof is also a factor.
 
OrangeClad said:
In fall camp, Jake Smith had a debilitating non-contact leg injury two years in a row. In fall camp, Omiere had a debilitating non-contact leg injury two years in a row. This year in fall camp so far, both Isaiah Neyor and Junior A. had debilitating non- contact leg injuries. Those don’t include sprained ankles, pulled groins, hamstring pulls, etc.

The question must be asked what is going on with that field in fall camp that is causing so many non-contact, season ending injuries.
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The training staff and the warm-up stretching routines should be under some scrutiny. Could be something else, but those areas should be evaluated.
 
SabreHorn said:
mc,

I had multiple visions of Neyor at 6'3" with that 46' vertical catching a fade from Ewers against those midget DBs every time we got in the OU red zone.

For those not familiar or who have forgotten about "the fade" because it wasn't in the binder, it works wonders in mismatches, unless you're OU and run against a 6'4" three-time state high jump champion four times.
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If you are referring to James Lott, I believe that happened against SMU.
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
I do not see how you make an ACL more flexible, nor why you would want to.
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I’m no body mechanics scientist so my takes are based solely on conjecture and what I believe to be logical.

To me, the more flexible the body (to a point) — the muscular structure, tissue, ligaments, all of it — the better the body can handle stress “and dissipate impacts.” Some have argued that an ACL injury (for example) has nothing to do with (excessive) muscle conditioning, and perhaps they are correct. But to me, it’s all connected. Drilling down, when someone like Neyor plants hard, if the structures around the areas of impact are more flexible — more pliable — the better his body can dissipate the impact. Otherwise that impact is isolated, concentrated in a very small area. Too much stress.

That would also apply to the surface upon which he lands, and plants. Grass and soil generally move. Movement on turf is artificial, created to a great extent by rubber particles, and a man-made substrate.

I’ve always liked this analogy from the plastics world which I inhabit. Throw a rock on a frozen lake and it might bounce, but it also might crack the ice. It will crack the ice if thrown multiple times.

Throw a rock into a pond and you can see the water ripple, dissipating the impact. ABS (a plastic) has excellent initial impart resistance, but poor dissipation. It will fail with repeated impact in the same area.

Polypropylene is generally thought to have inferior initial impact resistance to ABS, but it dissipates impact better. It’s the pebble in the pond analogy.

I’d love to see what a few body scientists think.
 
OrangeClad said:
In fall camp, Jake Smith had a debilitating non-contact leg injury two years in a row. In fall camp, Omiere had a debilitating non-contact leg injury two years in a row. This year in fall camp so far, both Isaiah Neyor and Junior A. had debilitating non- contact leg injuries. Those don’t include sprained ankles, pulled groins, hamstring pulls, etc.

The question must be asked what is going on with that field in fall camp that is causing so many non-contact, season ending injuries.
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This ^^^^^^is a legitimate question to pose and definitively worth a look
 
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RainH2burntO said:
Love you NR so dont read too much into this repky please..
I don't personally see too much doom and gloom here.
We have just been through a real rough stretch and these were very bad losses at a terrible time.
Virtually no one is saying these werent very significant losses...its just a fact.
And

This ^^^^^^is a legitimate question to pose and definitively worth a look
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No Rain,
I hear you and I agree. In here to debate differing views.
I was also thinking about articles regarding the impact on W and L. I’ve witnessed enough football that supports my theory on a backup excelling when given a shot.
 
Thanks, SN. Makes it that much more memorable. I should have realized that Barry wouldn't have thrown the ball 3-4 times in a row.
 
NRHorn said:
No Rain,
I hear you and I agree. In here to debate differing views.
I was also thinking about articles regarding the impact on W and L. I’ve witnessed enough football that supports my theory on a backup excelling when given a shot.
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Thats funny....I typed that partial reply this morning or yesterday evening and, after rereading your post, decided mine wasnt worth posting and forgot to delete before typing the next post.
Good thing it wasn't something worse!!
Your post was fine...We're all just trying to balance things out..I get it.
Thanks, friend.
 
dukesteer said:
Makes sense. I would think that strong quads take stress off the knee. At my advanced age, that is certainly true.
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I'm no Dr. but my thinking is actually counterintuitive. Take for example, modifying an engine. As you add turbo pressure and put more mods on an engine to make more horsepower, you add more stress to the driveline. Which is why any engine builder will tell you how far you can go before you blow the tranny or axles.

I think of muscles as being like an engine. You lift weights to get more power, but you aren't making your ligaments stronger. Maybe slightly stronger, but they don't build up like muscles. The ligaments eventually don't hold up when using the increased max power.

And my thinking is in all my years of playing rec. sports I've never seen a torn ACL. Maybe because rec. athletes never get to the muscle power levels of college/pro athletes.:idk:
 
dukesteer said:
Makes sense. I would think that strong quads take stress off the knee. At my advanced age, that is certainly true.
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It does make sense, but I have no support for it. It’s a low stress way to strengthen though. It’s not just strengthening the leg muscles but tendons and ligaments too. All with less stress.

Id generally agree with you on the flexibility consideration. At a minimum, it wouldn’t hurt. I am a person generally lacking in flexibility. In retrospect, it was my singular biggest hindrance to sports. Never blew out a knee, but lack of flexibility limits a lot of actions beyond just those resulting in injury.
 
Junior Angilau’s injury opens door
for talented freshmen

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Praised for his toughness and leadership ability, Angilau’s absence leaves a massive hole in what is already an offensive line unit with more questions than answers.

It looks as if sophomore Hayden Conner will most certainly occupy one of the starting guard spots in 2022. The question becomes, who else gets a shot?

Coach Sark and Coach Flood certainly are not lacking talented options when it comes to filling the shoes of Angilau.

The 2022 Texas offensive line recruiting class was ranked No. 1 nationally and has been talked about in a program-changing way.

Of the seven offensive linemen Texas signed, four were considered ‘interior offensive linemen’, including the tenth-ranked player in the class, DJ Campbell.

Campbell is a mountain of a man with an on-field intensity to match. His high school highlights show off his unique raw power with hand and foot speed to match.

Although he did not arrive on campus until June, the early reports around the five-star freshman have been ones of praise.

The other name that Coach Sarkisian will seriously consider... is another true freshman, Cole Huston.

The Frisco native has a leg up on his competition because of his decision to enter the program in January.

Reports throughout the spring and summer have been incredibly high on Huston, praising his work ethic and ability to get to the second level.

[More at Hook'Em]
 
RainH2burntO said:
Thats funny....I typed that partial reply this morning or yesterday evening and, after rereading your post, decided mine wasnt worth posting and forgot to delete before typing the next post.
Good thing it wasn't something worse!!
Your post was fine...We're all just trying to balance things out..I get it.
Thanks, friend.
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No sir- your post fits this discussion.
 
Takeaways from Tuesday’s open practice

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Troy Omeire... did not have a brace on his twice-surgically repaired knee. Luke Brockermeyer was dressed and did not practice, as well as wide receiver Jaden Alexis.

[W]ide receiver Casey Cain was wearing a green no-contact jersey, but did not appear limited while turning in a strong performance.

As Sarkisian explained at on Monday, and as is the case with any open practice or even the Orange-White game, it was a vanilla practice with the limited play-calling favoring the defense.

Both quarterbacks showed room for improvement on Tuesday.

After throwing only one interception last season, Card threw at least four interceptions on Tuesday, with an early interception by safety Jerrin Thompson. Card then threw multiple interceptions during a team period, including one by linebacker Jaylan Ford jumping a route that would have gone for a touchdown.

Ewers made better decisions during the team periods, but fumbled one snap and had an extremely poor stretch during some pared-down passing drills, going about six passes without a completion and throwing two interceptions during that stretch, as well as holding onto the ball until the play was whistled dead.

Both quarterbacks also made some wow plays. On a bootleg, Ewers threw the ball about 40 yards on the run to wide receiver Brenen Thompson in the corner of the end zone.

Card had two such plays, finding Cain in the corner of the end zone for a touchdown and then hitting Thompson on a post for a touchdown.

In terms of reps, Card worked with the first team early in practice, but Ewers received more first-team reps in team periods.

The running back position was harder to judge with Johnson and Brooks both out, although running back Bijan Robinson did flash his big-play ability at times in the team periods, which mostly amounts to a good sign for the first-team offensive line. Where the running backs did struggle was in a pass-blocking drill without Johnson, the best on the team in that area. Robinson notably lost two reps in a row to linebacker DeMarvion Overshown before demanding another and winning it, a small testament to his offseason commitment to improve that part of his game. Otherwise, the linebackers won most of the reps, with Diamonte Tucker-Dorsey showing his quickness and elusiveness in the drill.

At tight end, there weren’t any noticeable flash plays in the team drills, but Texas did spend a lot of time in 12 personnel, suggesting the Longhorns could use it more frequently this season...

The unit with the worst performance was the wide receivers, who struggled with drops. In fact, Jordan Whittington was the only player in the position group who didn’t have a noticeable drop...

Tarique Milton struggled the most with close to five drops, including one on a throw from Ewers that resulted in an interception.

Savion Red also had a drop on a screen pass, but flashed his explosiveness on a drills designed to put wide receivers in a small area against the sideline with multiple defenders...

Other than the steady Whittington, who had an impressive leaping grab in the end zone against... cornerback D’Shawn Jamison, the wide receiver with the most impressive performance on the day was Cain, who showed his ability to create separation and catch every pass that came his way.

Along the offensive line, the most notable developments were Kelvin Banks working at left tackle with the ones and DJ Campbell playing right guard with Hutson out.

Across the ball, nose tackle Byron Murphy worked with the first team, as did defensive tackle Vernon Broughton. Sarkisian mentioned both as having strong preseason camps and it looks like both could take over the starting jobs at those positions...

In addition to the rush off the edge by Overshown, he also made an impressive play in coverage, breaking up a third-down pass from Ewers intended for Worthy. Otherwise, the most significant plays from the linebackers were the interception by Ford and Jett Bush blowing up a screen pass to running back Keilan Robinson.

In the secondary, Jamison looked intent on having the best season of his career with multiple interceptions...

[Much more at BON]
 
Inside Texas-@InsideTexas
Lots of updates. Brenen Thompson with a few touchdown catches. Jaylan Ford and Jamier Johnson with picks. T'Vondre Sweat with a sack.

Brian Davis-@BDavisAAS
My impression of a two-hour Texas practice? When Sark says the QB competition is tight, believe him. Neither player seems heads and shoulders over the other.

CJ Vogel-@CJVogel_TFB
5 quick takeaways because I’m a generous guy:

1. Brennan Thompson had a tremendous 2nd half of practice
2. INT’s we’re handed out like trick-or-treat candy
3. Left tackle should be locked down
4. IDL is in an interesting spot right now
5. Casey Cain has a chance to step up huge

15 minutes after practice, Savion Red and Brennan Thompson getting extra work. While Jake Majors and Connor Robertson working on their snaps.

It’s been the defense’s night.
 
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