Epstein Case

[I35]

Assuming he was killed, who would have that kind of power?

That’s the question right there. Because the question sure isn’t if he committed suicide or not. It’s now who did it. Way too many things that are coincidence that show there’s foul play. You know what they are. No need in me repeating it again. Let’s continue this conversation once they find out who’s DNA is under his finger nails.

 

[OUBubba]

That’s the question right there. Because the question sure isn’t if he committed suicide or not. It’s now who did it. Way too many things that are coincidence that show there’s foul play. You know what they are. No need in me repeating it again. Let’s continue this conversation once they find out who’s DNA is under his finger nails.

B613 has already dispatched of the actual killer. Olivia Pope is all over this.

 

[I35]

B613 has already dispatched of the actual killer. Olivia Pope is all over this.

If a fictional character comes to real life and solves the case then I’m all for it. Funny would be seeing her walking along side Hillary Clinton with cuffs on.

 

[Dionysus]

Yep that’s on the heads of those networks. [...] They are the watchdog for the Democrats.

Seems like any media decision-maker will be a “watchdog” when there is sufficient political power (read: threats) brought to bear from either side of the aisle.

Major media outlets are all corporate-owned and therefore ultimately subject to political/financial interests, no?

 

[OUBubba]

If a fictional character comes to real life and solves the case then I’m all for it. Funny would be seeing her walking along side Hillary Clinton with cuffs on.

Hillary is old news. She had nothing to gain from Epstein's death. Who did? There's another guy who's rumored to have partaken in some of Epstein's "talent". New Yorker, had a bad case of the bone spurs as a twenty something. Dodged STD's. Likes to grab women by the pooty.

 

[I35]

Seems like any media decision-maker will be a “watchdog” when there is sufficient political power (read: threats) brought to bear from either side of the aisle.

Major media outlets are all corporate-owned and therefore ultimately subject to political/financial interests, no?

I understand that there is always going to be somewhat of a bias. But it can’t be so much that overshadows the truth. We as Americans depend of the freedom of the press to not deceive us. That’s when it’s a big problem.

 

[I35]

Hillary is old news. She had nothing to gain from Epstein's death. Who did? There's another guy who's rumored to have partaken in some of Epstein's "talent". New Yorker, had a bad case of the bone spurs as a twenty something. Dodged STD's. Likes to grab women by the pooty.

I don’t know, Orgy Island with little girls about 27 times can be pretty damning. That’s a little more than bone spurs. Epstein had lots of dirt on the Clintons.

 

[OUBubba]

I don’t know, Orgy Island with little girls about 27 times can be pretty damning. That’s a little more than bone spurs. Epstein had lots of dirt on the Clintons.

That's like saying someone has a lot of dirt on Barry Switzer. He's riding off into the sunset. Now if you had dirt on Lincoln, that would be current dirt.

 

[Dionysus]

We as Americans depend of the freedom of the press to not deceive us.

I think that ship has long since sailed, possibly with a few exceptions but who is really trustworthy and how would we know? How much “truth” has already been suppressed because powerful interests would be harmed by it?

 

[I35]

I think that ship has long since sailed, possibly with a few exceptions but who is really trustworthy and how would we know? How much “truth” has already been suppressed because powerful interests would be harmed by it?

It’s very cut throat right now between the left and the right news agencies. They are exposing each other all the time with facts to back it. They work hard to make sure they are correct in those instances more than they do their own stories. It’s pretty one sided for the most part and certain ones don’t even care anymore as long as their listeners hear their narrative. In the past If the media got it wrong it use to be a big deal to show a correction. Then they started putting their corrections in small print on page 27. Now they don’t even correct it as they want their followers to keep believe the lie. It’s forgivable if they just didn’t do enough research and get it wrong, but it’s intentional now and they still sleep well at night.

 

[I35]

That's like saying someone has a lot of dirt on Barry Switzer. He's riding off into the sunset. Now if you had dirt on Lincoln, that would be current dirt.

Barry would have no consequences in his wrong doing in college football. Remember Pete Carroll when he bailed at USC for the Seahawks? Besides the wrong doings by Barry are against the NCAA and not the federal government. Not to mention that would be petty like stealing bubble gum from a store compared to the Clintons past.

 

[Joe Fan]

It is interesting that ABC found the Epstein witness/accusers story did not meet "standards to air."
But the uncorroborated allegations against Kavanaugh that popped up in the middle of his confirmation did meet their standards
Got it?

 

[Joe Fan]

It is interesting that ABC found the Epstein witness/accusers story did not meet "standards to air."
But the uncorroborated allegations against Kavanaugh that popped up in the middle of his confirmation did meet their standards
Got it?

And ps from ABC - Also, here’s some fake Syria war footage (that's actually from a KY gun range)

 

[Monahorns]

Who would have kind of power? Well, it has to be Trump right Bubba? Any current event is a nail that must be hit with the hammer of Impeach Trump!

 

[OUBubba]

Thanks Obama!

 

[Joe Fan]

That's like saying someone has a lot of dirt on Barry Switzer. He's riding off into the sunset. Now if you had dirt on Lincoln, that would be current dirt.

The Epstein story didn't kill itself

 

[Joe Fan]

The hypocrisy and creepiness at the traditional Big 3 network news operations is pretty staggering

-- NBC killed Ronan Farrow's story about Harvey Weinstein (at least in part at the bequest of the Clintons) and yet let Matt Lauer have a "rape button"

-- CBS let creepy employees Les Moonves and Charlie Rose run wild for years

-- ABC "quashed" the Epstein story three years ago. Ask yourself - what was happening 3 years ago? It was Clinton v. Trump And who was implicated by the Epstein stuff? Mrs Clinton's husband. Even ABC employee George Stephanopoulos partied with Epstein upon his earlier release from jail

And yet all of three "news" organizations ran with whatever Kavanaugh smear job fell into their lap

 

[Joe Fan]

The hypocrisy and creepiness at the traditional Big 3 network news operations is pretty staggering
-- NBC killed Ronan Farrow's story about Harvey Weinstein (at least in part at the bequest of the Clintons) and yet let Matt Lauer have a "rape button"
-- CBS let creepy employees Les Moonves and Charlie Rose run wild for years
-- ABC "quashed" the Epstein story three years ago. Ask yourself - what was happening 3 years ago? It was Clinton v. Trump And who was implicated by the Epstein stuff? Mrs Clinton's husband. Even ABC employee George Stephanopoulos partied with Epstein upon his earlier release from jail
And yet all of three "news" organizations ran with whatever Kavanaugh smear job fell into their lap

An RCP story on this very thing --

" .... despite “woke” culture, racism and the #MeToo movement being central themes of the Democratic Party today, media coverage of such stories seems to be heavily dependent on the politics of the person accused. The only constant seems to be the ever-present “Trump Bump” in which any story involving the president is media gold."​

In 'Woke' Era, Is Scandal Coverage Tied to the Accused's Politics? | RealClearPolitics

 

[OUBubba]

Ronan Farrow: National Enquirer tried to help Trump bury teen rape allegation

 

[Mr. Deez]

An RCP story on this very thing --

" .... despite “woke” culture, racism and the #MeToo movement being central themes of the Democratic Party today, media coverage of such stories seems to be heavily dependent on the politics of the person accused. The only constant seems to be the ever-present “Trump Bump” in which any story involving the president is media gold."​

In 'Woke' Era, Is Scandal Coverage Tied to the Accused's Politics? | RealClearPolitics

It's just stating obvious. We still hear about Anita Hill almost every time a media or political commentator mentions Clarence Thomas. When Bill Clinton's name is mentioned, how often is Juanita Broaderick, Paula Jones, or Kathleen Willey mentioned? Very seldom.

There's also a tremendous difference in the tone and general framing of accusations. When Hill and Christine Blasey-Ford came forward with accusations, there was massive pressure to presume the truth of their statements, to rationalize and explain away inconsistencies or other problems in their stories, and not to do or say anything that might intimidate or embarrass them in any way. They basically got to play the rape victim card without having to establish that anyone did anything to them. Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaderick, and Paula Jones got no sympathy whatsoever. In fact, they were routinely mocked and dismissed as self-interested bullshitters.

Other than politics, why the big difference? All five of these women made accusations that were ultimately swearing matches. (And in the case of Ford, I'm being extremely generous in calling it that. She actually has the weakest case of any of these women.) The accusers claimed the men did something terrible to them, and the men denied them vociferously. However, the allegations against Republicans were treated wildly differently than those made against Democrats. And they wonder why media trust is so low.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Ronan Farrow: National Enquirer tried to help Trump bury teen rape allegation

Let's see the evidence. Ronan Farrow saying it doesn't make it so. The attorney for the alleged rape "victim" doesn't say that the Enquirer or Trump pushed her to drop the case. And I put the term "victim" in quotes, because we don't even know that such a person exists.

We have "Katie Johnson" (who could be anybody) and some anonymous filings. The plaintiff in these cases could very easily have been Hillary Clinton calling up Lisa Bloom and telling her to file a lawsuit against Trump alleging child rape. I'm not saying that happened, but it is no less likely to be true than that there was an actual child rape victim.

 

[Joe Fan]

Paging “Epstein Coverup”
Would “Epstein Coverup” please pick up a white courtesy phone?
This was heard at the San Diego Airport yesterday

 

[Joe Fan]

 

[Clean]

-- ABC "quashed" the Epstein story three years ago. Ask yourself - what was happening 3 years ago? It was Clinton v. Trump And who was implicated by the Epstein stuff? Mrs Clinton's husband. Even ABC employee George Stephanopoulos partied with Epstein upon his earlier release from jail

This is the correct reason ABC didn't run the story. If Trump would have been implicated instead of Clinton, it would have "met their standards for reporting" in spades! Hum, ABC news credibility (if they have any) has been taking quite a few hits lately.

Robach's witness said that she had pictures to prove her claims. Seems like a much stronger case than Christine Ballsy Ford's accusations against Kavanaugh to me. And why is it that the #metoo rule that every woman's rape allegations should be taken seriously only apply when leveled against a conservative?

 

[Joe Fan]

This is the correct reason ABC didn't run the story. If Trump would have been implicated instead of Clinton, it would have "met their standards for reporting" in spades! Hum, ABC news credibility (if they have any) has been taking quite a few hits lately.

Robach's witness said that she had pictures to prove her claims. Seems like a much stronger case than Christine Ballsy Ford's accusations against Kavanaugh to me. And why is it that the #metoo rule that every woman's rape allegations should be taken seriously only apply when leveled against a conservative?

One of the questions that always keeps coming up for me with stories like this, and there are loads of them, is how none of the boards of these news corporations puts their collective foot down sand says "enough of this." The poor reflection on the news people is also a poor reflection on the board members who allow it to keep going and going.

 

[Joe Fan]

"... And it's worth pointing out again that one of ABC's considerations in spiking Robach's story was the potential loss of a chance to interview Prince William and Kate.

Thus, the reporting of corroborated facts works so long as it fits the media’s agenda; as soon as it doesn’t, the mask comes off.

Also, maybe Kavanaugh should have married a member of the British royal family."​

The media protected Jeffrey Epstein and crucified Brett Kavanaugh

 

[OUBubba]

Let's see the evidence. Ronan Farrow saying it doesn't make it so. The attorney for the alleged rape "victim" doesn't say that the Enquirer or Trump pushed her to drop the case. And I put the term "victim" in quotes, because we don't even know that such a person exists.

We have "Katie Johnson" (who could be anybody) and some anonymous filings. The plaintiff in these cases could very easily have been Hillary Clinton calling up Lisa Bloom and telling her to file a lawsuit against Trump alleging child rape. I'm not saying that happened, but it is no less likely to be true than that there was an actual child rape victim.

My only point is that I think it's ludicrous to imply that Hillary had something to do with Epstein's "suicide".

 

[Horns11]

Yeah every picture of Trump partying with Epstein with coke lips gives out an anthropomorphic *sigh* every time someone suggests that the Clintons had more to gain from Epstein's death.

 

[Mr. Deez]

My only point is that I think it's ludicrous to imply that Hillary had something to do with Epstein's "suicide".

I get your point. I only make the implication jokingly. Having said that, I think there is reason to be suspicious of his death. Do I assume Hillary did it? No. Do I think somebody may have? Yes.

 

[Horn6721]

11
EVERY pic? How many have you seen?
Are there reports of Trump flying with Epstein ever let alone multiple times including to Epsteins private island?