I understand what you're saying. I was just explaining why courts tended to reject that point.
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I understand what you're saying. I was just explaining why courts tended to reject that point.
Agree with your post but I don’t believe it was the public opinion by and of itself that changed , it was the Media (and far left politicians) that pushed, more like forced, the ‘change’ onto us. Someone is probably going to come forth with public opinion polls refuting my claim but that’s what I think.
Hello HIC,
I got pooped two times for posting this. All I can say is I did not make the news just reported it. I can't stand the BLM movement.
When Longest Horn was still here before his ban, I'm not far off from that myself, I literally pooped every comment he ever made.
I was summoned (a long time ago, but I am here nonetheless. I am really only here #RememberRickBarnes on the basketball board, but i'll check in here)! @Mr. Deez the Right in general has been super lazy with distilling conservative values in their children. A very high number of parents of people currently 35 and younger let schools teach their kids their values and they checked out of parenting. I saw this happen a lot growing up. Most people my age do not share their parents' values and their parents are confused about how it happened. Why did this happen? I really do not know. Drug culture from the 60s? My parents taught me their values. Some other parents taught their children their values as well. Why did so many not? I really do not know. My best theory on the decline in America culture is the proliferation of drugs.
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I certainly don't have all the answers, but it seems like the generation of the 50's and 60's were too successful. They wanted there kids to be better off than them and thus spoiled them, didn't teach them values or proper discipline. The drug culture was certainly a major contributor. Spoiled kids used to getting whatever they want by complaining having no discipline or work ethic and you get a liberal culture.
Yes, the Right has been lazy about passing on conservatism to their kids. I think it's a lot of factors. Yes, drug proliferation and trashy music were part of it. If you grew up not taking drugs and listening to Benny Goodman, that definitely suggests a different culture from someone who grows up smoking dope and listening to "Wet *** *****." However, I think the previous generation's personal failures and laziness are the biggest factor.
To pass on conservatism or traditional values to kids, you have to practice them yourself and not downplay their importance, because you won't have the credibility to teach them if you don't. You can't be a drug user. You can't be sexually screwed up. You want your kids to like positive cultural influences? Then you better appreciate them yourself. If you don't want your kid listening to Cardi B, then you better not be listening to 2Live Crew. Your kids aren't going to be any more traditional than you are.
If you want your kid to be a Christian, you have to be one and act like one yourself. You have to get your *** out of bed on Sunday morning and go to church even when you don't feel like it and then reinforce that at home - read the Bible, pray with them, teach them to care about and help others (especially those with less). How many conservative parents took their kids to church on Sunday but then let the crappy pop culture be the biggest influence 6 out of 7 days? Tons.
I think a lot of parents who believe in traditional values also want to be their kids' friends (which is easy) rather than leaders (which is hard). It's a pain in the *** and makes you look like a killjoy to discipline your kid or to tell him or her she can't listen to trashy music or watch trashy TV shows. It's a pain in the *** to have to go tell your daughter she can't have her boyfriend hanging out in her bedroom. You have to be willing to do this stuff even if invites conflict or makes you look "bad."
You also have to not give a crap what other stupid adults think of you. There were times when I had to whip Deez, Jr.'s *** when he was younger and misbehaved in restaurants. I didn't spank him in front of people, but I did have to haul him out of the restaurant to the car where his *** got whipped, and plenty of "adults" who could tell what was going to happen gave me dirty looks. **** 'em, and rather than looking away in shame, I gave them a "**** off" scowl in return. After doing that a couple of times, he stopped misbehaving.
Finally, I think a lot of parents who monitored their kids' entertainment in the '80s and '90s were too rigid about some things and too permissive about others. They'd put up every barrier in the world to make sure their kid never saw a boob or violence on TV, but then they'd let their kid veg out watching other shows in which kids are celebrated and laughed at for smack-talking and disrespecting their parents or other authority figures. I'm not gonna show Deez, Jr. gratuitous nudity, pornography, or violence, but I'd rather him see tasteful, incidental nudity or some righteous killing (neither of which have real life application to him) than to see a 7-year-old kid talking **** and looking good for it (which does have real life application to him).
Frankly, it's a lot easier to be passive about this stuff and dole this responsibility out to the schools and broader culture, and I think a lot of parents just decided to go the way of least resistance. Well, that may have made their lives easier in the moment, but we're paying a price for it now. It's costing us the culture that made us successful and decent in the first place, and they scratch their heads and wonder what the hell went wrong.
Monahorns
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That's part of it. There is a history going back centuries which explains what is going on today. The link is a recent article, but it you go back in the series, the explanation will follow.
How Should We Then Live? Chapter 10: Modern Cinema
Deez, you are right about all that, but you can do all that (I did) and it's still a crap-shoot. I have one son who totally lives my values - I often say he is to the right of me politically, and there's not much room over there. My other son is very left-leaning politically, even tho he is a good kid overall (very respectful of his parents, never in any trouble with the law, etc). The second one is a music major at UT, I just chalk it up to that. 
Deez, you are right about all that, but you can do all that (I did) and it's still a crap-shoot. I have one son who totally lives my values - I often say he is to the right of me politically, and there's not much room over there. My other son is very left-leaning politically, even tho he is a good kid overall (very respectful of his parents, never in any trouble with the law, etc). The second one is a music major at UT, I just chalk it up to that.
I wouldn't call it a crap-shoot, because that suggests that there's no predictability to the matter or that it's just luck. Obviously what you do as a parent makes a bigger impact than anything else.
However, your point is correct. People have free will. You can do everything right as a parent, and your kid may still choose to be bad. My oldest sister is like that. My parents did a great job, even though they were poor for the first several years of our childhood. My mom took care of us at home, and my dad busted his *** with two or three jobs at a time and also ran a small business to keep a roof over our heads and food in our mouths. Despite that, they made sure we were in church every week, read the Bible with us, prayed with us, taught us right from wrong, and did everything you'd expect Christian parents to do. With their workloads, there's no question that they didn't always feel like doing all that, but they did anyway because they loved us to no end. It honestly chokes me up sometimes to think about it.
My oldest sister? She did everything right as a kid probably more than any of us, including me. However, when she moved out, she turned into a mess - screwed around with a bunch of dudes, got pregnant by a loser guy who molested their little girl (which my sister should have known was going on) and then committed suicide when he got caught, and generally lived like a heathen. She married some ******* guy who treated her and daughter like ****, but when she became more trouble than she was worth, he kicked her to the curb. She used to be pretty competent as an HR professional, but she got hooked on prescription drugs and booze and now can't hold down a job. Furthermore, she thinks my parents did a crappy job. (Her three siblings obviously disagree.)
The irony of it - guess where she lives now. Yep, with my parents. She thinks they sucked, but they still care for her as a 51 year old and keep her from being homeless.
Sorry to hear that, Deez.
We wouldn't want to offend nonbinary Potato Head. I wonder what it's preferred pronouns will be.
She goes too
Yes, but there isn't a tranny-Potato Head.
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I don't think any of those people are actually serious. Twitter has a lot of humor, sarcasm, etc. Sometimes that doesn't translate to hornfans.com.
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