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This is some funny *** ****. NEWSFLASH: Neither UT or A&M is perfect! Pointing out each others fallouts will not go anywhere. We both have our problems. I for one think they are both great schools, I'm proud of both of them as far as the state of Texas is concerned. I wish one day we would both be in the top 10 in football and academics (public schools) every year. I think UT is 13, and we are 18. (first time in years UT has been ahead of us ) Obviously, we are both great institutions. The **** talking is fun, but it can get old. I'm guilty of it, too. But in the end were both pretty darn good. oh well, Im going to bed now.....
 
And he was really gritting his teeth trying not to boil over there after I talked about his temper: quote:
 
12th:I hope A&M can bump up its acadmeics also, and that Toombs gets through the drug possession thing OK without jail time. But stop interrupting me from needling, Swole
 
SwoleAg, A good ol ag, got rested fer havin his way with his ovine pardner and he called his old high school buddy, a longhorn, fer advice on a lawyer. CFS60 told him he could do no better than that West Texas phenom, Speed Goat. CFS60 splained that Speed Goat, didn't seem that sharp, but he was an absolute master at pickin juries and that was the key to a criminil case.In college station, the day of the trial came and Speed Goat went about picking a jury. He kept asking whether or not the jurors were aggies. Old Swole didn't seem to understand the process, but deep down he knew that a longhorn could do no wrong. The jury was picked and Speed Goat gave his opening statement. Swole was not impressed. The prosecution called the first state witness, Benedict Gomer. BG testified at length about Swole's relations with his Goat. Speed never objected and didn't cross examine. Swole was not very happy.The next witness did the same. Speed did nothing. Swole was getting extremely upset, sure that he was goin to jail.Next, Swole was floored to hear Speed announce that the Defense was callin Swole to the stand. The defendant never takes the stand, right? Sure that Speed Goat was sellin him down the river Swole, nevertheless took the stand and swore to tell the truth.Speed Goat asked Swole: "Did you have sex with that goat?"Swole just about ****. He couldn't believe Speed had asked such a question. However, he had swore to tell the truth so he admitted that he had his way with billy the goat.Speed then asked: "And after you plugged that goat, what happened next?"Swole turned red in the face, embarrassed and furious with his lawyer. What on earth was this idiot thinking? He knows what the answer is and its not good. Swole replied: "billy turned around and licked me clean." Swole slumped in his chair, knowing that he was going to get life.In the next minute, however, Swole beamed as he heard one juror say to the others: "You know...a good goat'll do that fer ya."------------------
Diplomacy is saying: "Nice Doggy," until you can find a really big stick.
 
Does anyone else realize that the only people that have ever been busted as imposters are the aggies? HornDoc=AgDoc. Busted in one of the funniest, bumbling, idiotic manuevers ever on any board in netdom. The guy was trying to negatively recruit against us for the Big 3 and accidentally used his real handle. He didn't understand how one can delete a thread and he left it on the board for several days.Hornguy=Swollen Ag. rpongett pretty much took care of this.HornE=One of the moronic aggies on the texags board. He was impersonating a Horn over there in an effort to make us look moronic until some of the Horn posters over there called him out and made him like the idiot he is.In conclusion, one can see from these examples what gutless wonders their fans really are. It's not even necessary to take a look at their school and it's historically corrupt athletic department. The fans take all of the fun out of these arguments by taking away any credibility their school had before the rest of us even start to argue. ------------------
Hook'em
 
I won't be stupid enough to try and defend Swole Ag. However, despite his quick temper and monumental blunders, he really seems to make a good case regarding Rpongett and the way in which he twisted the Cavil and Co. suspensions. Certainly, I don't know that the suspensions were NCAA drug failures, but no one seems to argue against the idea that they most probably were. And if that is the case, it makes any argument that these suspensions illustrate Mack's discipline as without merit.I also don't know if it is true that Mack has never suspended a player, but I have also heard it to be true. Does anyone else know of another player he suspended in his career?[This message has been edited by Another R. Ellison Joke (edited 03-01-2000).]
 
Pongo making more claims.MB has NEVER NEVER NEVER suspended a player of his own accord, and pongo used the latest UT suspensions (which we all know were drug related and NCAA mandated) as a means to negatively recruit on the internet, claiming A&M was an undisciplined program. And then he has the gall to publicly criticize an A&M player about what some friend's brother told him might have been said. Typical pongo.He actually was arrogant enough to think that just by saying that the suspensions were Mack's ideas people would buy it. He thought he could ignore the fact that RC suspended a starter for a PI just last year, and yet MB gives "extra running" for DWIs (having NEVER given a suspension). Now he bad-mouths Toombs for negative recruiting? Typical.
 
Hey, everyone: its Swole Ag, the king of embarrassment. You guys on the football BBS may get to participate in the fun we've had with this rocket scientist over on the Recruiting BBS. Among some of his largest gaffes:(1) Over on the recruiting BBS, before signing day, Swole Ag impersonated a Texas fan (named Hornguy) and posted that we'd "break [Marcus] Houston's back," after Houston committed to CU. Only Swole Ag actually used his real name in the e-mail address of his fake Texas fan's bio. Seriously. He then topped his own stupidity by forgetting to make the password in his fake Texas fans' bio non-public. No kidding. Easily besting the OU "idoit" post for dumbest ever. Its now, of course, in the Classic Post archive. Click the link below if you don't believe such buffoonery is possible:http://www.hornfans.com/ubb/Archives/Archive-000001/HTML/20000128-2-003905.html Although virtually everyone -- including Aggies -- begged for him to be banned for impersonating a Texas fan attacking a recruit, he's too entertaining (for the moment, at least) to let go.(2) Indeed, part of the entertainment is that Swole boils over into rage at the drop of a hat. In fact, the hilarious incident above was after he became enraged in a post where he jumped all over Texas fans for saying we didn't offer Aggie recruit Eddie Brown. He demanded proof, and said "post? link?" After a rivalnet link was immediately posted with Ketchum saying Eddie himself said he wasn't offered -- and we all laughed our asses off for a while -- Swole pretty much lost it, and went into some mode where he began having mock convesations with himself, me and Huckleberry, all on the BBS. See what you guys miss not hanging out on the recruiting BBS? (3) Before that, he went into a rage about how Texas really wanted all sorts of Aggie players like Ferguson in high school. When it was pointed out that we didn't offer any of the players he listed, he again threw a tantrum.(4) Finally, and perhaps funniest given the context, Swole absolutely went ballistic when I talked about an unnamed player who was "busted" a while back for drug possession, without naming the player. He immediately assumed I was talking about Toombs, and went into a mutli-post tirade about how the prosecutor dropped the charges and Toombs was entirely innocent and it was "outrageous" and "ridiculous" to say he was "busted." (in fact, no one had said he was busted anyway) Then, sometime before the newspaper articles came out about it last month, it was found out that Toombs charges were deferred adjudiciation!!! Doh! We had a blast with that Swole boner for a week. No s**t. All of those were from the same poster over just a couple of months.There are a couple of other good Swole Ag stories, too, but they pile up so fast I can't remember.As for his post: I have the same reaction as you: I have no idea what he's saying. His posts are intelligible. For instance, what in god's name is he referring to with this line of pyscho-babble: quote:
 
Rpongett,I'm not sure I followed all of your points. I am not too dumb, but I don't know how to know for certain if the suspensions were an NCAA deal. I do know that no one seems to argue that the cause was a failed NCAA drug test, and I know players in the past have had to sit bowl games due to failed tests.As for the Toombs case, it was a summer case in which Toombs had no drugs in his system. I think he should have sat a game, but I can understand why he didn't. I think it is kind of foolish to attack RC's record regarding discipline; it pretty well-established that he runs a clean ship. Even if one wanted to attack his discipline, if it is true that UT suspensions were an NCAA deal, then the situation which you used as a comparison was fallable.BTW - This really isn't a flame. I am honestly curious if anyone knows of any player that Coach Brown has suspended in his career.
 
Joke--Well, I guess we could look up that "Players suspended by Head Coaches" website and maybe we could find out there. The truth is, we have only followed Brown since he came to Texas and his history of suspending players is not one that is readily available. If you want to know, go ask some Tar Heel and Green Wave fans. I'd like to point out a few things. The guys that got PIs were punished during offseason practice, because that's when the offenses occurred. These offenses are minor in comparison. They were both of age and neither received DWIs. They basically got drunk at a bar. I've done that, I've never carried drugs into a public area and acted conspicuous enough to get busted.If you recruit quality kids and teach them and raise them as your own, you decrease the possibility of having to suspend them at a later date by a wide margin. I submit this as a viable reason Brown doesn't have a known history of having to suspend players. It's also a major reason the guy has never had NCAA infractions hanging over his head. Ever.Your statement that RC runs a clean program and is a class guy is up for debate. We aren't ****** enough to continually bring up his past, but if you really want to flesh this argument out, we can. Your program has been put under major NCAA sanctions on his clock. Your program has been forced to forfeit a game on his clock due to academic wrongdoings. Your coach allowed a player to play all season with drug charges pending. No, Toombs may or may not have had drugs in his system, but he damn sure had them on his body, and he was duly arrested for it. Said player just happens to be a star for you guys. Let's not forget Russell Bynum, your kicker. What happened to him? Com'on, show us some proof. What happened? Tough to explain, isn't it? Also, RC had marital issues that call his integrity and honesty into question. Then there's the recruit from last year who was arrested at his High School for beating his girlfriend and then promptly signed by ATM. Oh, and take a probing look at the Dante Hall fiasco. None of this exactly makes RC look like a class guy, nor your program a "model" example of NCAA cleanliness. So stop bringing that kind of lie to the table.The truth is, you could probably find some scars at Texas if you looked hard enough. Or any major university for that matter. Unfortunately for you, your school and RC do it on a more regular basis. Your best bet is to shut your mouth about what you think you have "surmised" about our team. You don't have the guns or the brains to stand a fighting chance. If you guys stop with your negative spins and lies on everything Brown does, you might see less of these posts in the future. It can't be fun for you.------------------
Hook'em
 
You brought up a lot of peices of information. Congatulations.Exactly what did I say that was derogative about Coach Brown? Nothing. I simply pointed outt hat was unfair to use the suspensions to your 4 players last year as an example of his discipline. And it is. That was the only point I made. I won't begin to get into all the partial truths you brought up. I'm sure we could agrgue about wach one on extensively. Nor will I stoop to such a low level as to personally attack you.Again, my only point is that Swole Ag (as indefensible as he is) may have a point regarding the error of using these suspensions as a means with which to argue for greater discipline in the UT program. That is not an inflammatory opinion, is it?
 
Good move on backing off of the "Mack didn't have any choice" line on the suspension thing. However, I'm not sure what you're getting at with this: quote:
 
AREJ,You are making the same points I was trying to make, but because of mistakes I have made, it is impossible for me to have a discussion of the facts with these guys. I've decided to distance myself from the whole deal.
 
Rpongett,I'm not backing off my opinion that, in all liklihood, Mack didn't have any choice on the deal. I don't know that for sure, and it may be that he did. But, based on what we know, it doesn't seem likely to me. If you have information that suggests he did have a choice, please inform me. I wouldn't want to speak out of turn.RC suspended a player for a PI just this year. Mack ran a few of them for it last year. RC ran Toombs for a summer incident where he had one pot cigarette on him, and none in his system. If you want to use that to attack RC, fine. I respectfully disagree.We are still veering of the point that was being made, and one which I have heard nothing to change. Namely, that you were off base for using the UT suspensions as a means with which to bolster Mack's "discipline rating." If these suspensions were his choice, then you were 100% correct. I doubt they were - but they might have been. If you have information that suggests they were - I'd be eager to hear it.
 
Joke: I may have gone over the line if you thought I was personally attacking you. You have been a reasonable poster. We have a different view of matters, but you certainly have a right to your view. I do want you to understand that we're not running with half-truths here. Everything I have stated can be backed up with evidence. From RC's personal issues to Toombs' record, a public history exists on all of it.As for your statement about the aggie player getting the suspension for the PI, there is a difference between the 2 PI incidents. Your player did it on a Wednesday Night in the middle of the season before a game. Our two guys did it in the off-season and they were punished. Had our two guys done it during the year, I believe they would have been suspended as well. RC's move in the situation was proper. I doubt he would have suspended your guy for a PI in the summertime. BTW, listen to rpongett. Choices were made.------------------
Hook'em
 
Rpongett,I'll take yoor word for it - I guess. You have offered nothing more than your word for proof though, and a reasonable guess would run contrary. With that said, I'll trust you.Horndfl,I would disagree about the instances you brought up being entirely truthful in their reflection of Slocum. I have personal knowledge of the man, and he is a class act. The infractions committed when he was head coach were perpetrated by a single alum without his knowledge (he took a lie detector test). Dante Hall deserved to be booted. We needed him, and the fact the RC got rif of him is every bit as much a showcase of his stance regarding discipline as Mack's suspensions. The marital problems you brought up are issues you can't begin to know the beginning of (and personally I thought even their mention was in bad taste). I don't rememeber what else you brought up, but let me just say that your view of RC is greatly flawed. Take my word for it. You ask me to take your word for it regarding the suspensions - maybe you know things I don't. I promise you I know things you don't about RC - and he is a fine man.
 
Swole,How 'bout you just distance yourself from this entire board?Your credibility here has been gut-shot by your own foolish actions.No matter what you say now regarding any topic will be refuted.
 
OK, this one's about to go in the Classic Post archive.Swole Ag has yet hilariously bungled again, this time creating a new personallity (or getting someone else at his school to do so) to pump up his own pathetic reaches: R. Ellison Joke. Absolutely athetic? Yes. How do I know, you ask? Its Swole, so it didn't take a rocket scientist:(1) Maybe its the fact that Another R. Ellison Joke came on the BBS about two weeks after "Idiot-Gate" -- when Swole was outed for impersonating a Horn claiming "we'd break [Marcus] Houston's back" after he committed to CU, because he stupidly used his own name in his e-mail address, and then topped that by leaving it public in his fake Horn poster's bio.(2) Perhaps its that both Swole and R. Ellison Joke have said their both young high school coaches?(3) Maybe its that R. Ellison Joke picked up on the exact same topics (drugs, A&M coaches, Bush/Reagan support) on the exact same BBS's (Football, West Mall) about the time Swole stopped posting a lot.(4) Perhaps its that R. Ellison Joke actually tipped himself off entirely by coming on and posting "I have been on this board occasionally and on Texags pretty consistently since this end of this season, but I've never bothered to post. I think it's time I get in the action" and "I've never posted on a flame-thread before, and didn't mean this thread to turn into one, but I wanted to get this back on a track I'm not sure why it left."(5) Or maybe its just that Swole and R. Ellison Joke posted about 20 minutes apart from the IDENTICAL IP Address from a school in Navasota. DOH!!! ROFLMAO!!!!I've baited him into saying such gems as: quote:
 
RPongett,You da man. Between you and AggieFactFinder it's like a tag team match with Swole tagging himself in. He invites abuse...it would be rude not to accept such an invitation. It is hard to imagine his motivation. Actually, I think Swole must be a secret double agent to make aggeys look bad.------------------
Diplomacy is saying: "Nice Doggy," until you can find a really big stick.
 
Dear Aggies,Could you please cite me a source (other than Swole Ag or his lying attorney buddy) who can verify that Mr. Toombs was tested and no drugs were found in his system?I have found no such information in the case file, and I would have brought it up if I were the defending attorney. I smell something...EDIT NOTE- ROB I JUST READ WHAT YOU POSTED ABOUT THE IPs. GO DIRECTLY TO CLASSIC POSTS, DO NOT HESITATE.GOOD NEWS WINAGS: YOU'RE NO LONGER THE AGGIE ******* POSTER BOY.[This message has been edited by AggieFactFinder (edited 03-01-2000).]
 
Nickdanger:If he is, he's a brilliant Horn fan. I couldn't write something this stupid.The moralizing in the face of 3-stooges-quality deceit is the cherry on top of Swole's entertainment. He says we're all contemptable for not being rosie about A&M, and then he goes over to the Recruiting BBS, impersonates a Horn fan, and bashes a recruit before signing day. After Idiotgate, he posts "I could have changed my username easily enough, but I didn't because I should have to bear the ridicule for what I did. I'm also a Christian who believes in forgiveness." And then proceeds to create a fake username to compliment himself re his own posts.Aggie Fact Finder:Why don't you ask Another R. Ellison Joke? [This message has been edited by rpongett (edited 03-01-2000).]
 
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