Coronavirus

Mona
The CDC can not mandate covid vaxx or any vaxx.
Only states can mandate what is required. So Abbott has nothing to denounce.
 
Horn6721 said:
Mona
The CDC can not mandate covid vaxx or any vaxx.
Only states can mandate what is required. So Abbott has nothing to denounce.
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Mona is all about the latest Libertarian candidate, who will garner 3-4% of the vote. So he will bash Abbot when given the chance. To be fair Mona will bash BobFrank too.
 
Horn6721 said:
Mona
The CDC can not mandate covid vaxx or any vaxx.
Only states can mandate what is required. So Abbott has nothing to denounce.
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Yes. But the states use the CDC list to base their mandates on. So we need to hear from the state about what they are going to do.
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
Mona is all about the latest Libertarian candidate, who will garner 3-4% of the vote. So he will bash Abbot when given the chance. To be fair Mona will bash BobFrank too.
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Not necessarily. I vote for Republicans too when they consistently promote freedom or state politicians who assert sovereignty in opposition to the Federal government. I would vote for DeSantis or Kari Lake any day.

But it does no good to elect Republicans who are Democrat-lite. We either need to push Republicans further right and further radical or we need to support a different party. Right now Republicans take conservative votes for granted even when they are moderates. The Republican establishment is basically moderate leftists.
 
Mona
Since it is the state lege who sets the requirments, not the Gov.
And the lege isn't in session
Maybe we should be more concerned about voting to ensure the Repubs stay in the majority on Nov 8.
 
Horn6721 said:
Mona
Since it is the state lege who sets the requirments, not the Gov.
And the lege isn't in session
Maybe we should be more concerned about voting to ensure the Repubs stay in the majority on Nov 8.
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Abbott shut down businesses, schools, and churches down for months. He only lifted the shut downs after he saw several other governors do so. He also keeps extending his emergency status so he can do it again if he wants to. Trust in him is misplaced.

Of course I prefer him to Francine who is a Marxist and a loser. But I want better for Texas. Can't the Republicans run someone better than squishy soft Abbott?
 
Actually it was one month. March 19, 2020 he ordered complete shutdown
April 17 2020 he began to reopen things.
In retrospect perhaps he shouldn't have done it at all. But as reality and facts became known he did open things up
 
Every politician was a moron for going along with business closures that were picked and chosen as to what was "essential". Home Depot, not the local hardware.

Ludicrous.
 
Monahorns said:
Abbott shut down businesses, schools, and churches down for months. He only lifted the shut downs after he saw several other governors do so. He also keeps extending his emergency status so he can do it again if he wants to. Trust in him is misplaced.

Of course I prefer him to Francine who is a Marxist and a loser. But I want better for Texas. Can't the Republicans run someone better than squishy soft Abbott?
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I don't recall Texas being shut down "for months" and saw plenty of things locally that were fully operational in a very short period of time.

As to the extension of the EO, I believe some of that is to keep Counties from trying to go rogue. I suspect that it largely goes away post-election, especially after many of the idiots at the County level are swept out of office.
 
Those who locked down schools should pay a massive, long term political price, and they should never be trusted to set education policy again. Link.
 
Duck Dodgers said:
Time to update my list of what has been told to the public from our heath authorities, amplified by chumps in the media who don't know the difference between a virus and bacteria, and ruthlessly enforced via censorship by Fakebook, Twatter, and of course Google/YouTube, who's new and updated mottos is: Be Evil.
  • The Wuhan virus is no big issue.
  • It may be an issue, but we'll deal with it the way we always have, and masks don't work.
  • OK we lied about masks, but only so you rubes don't go and buy them all. Now you must wear them at all times.
  • It's racialist to call the Wuhan the Wuhan, and you only must call it by its scientific name. The fact that China is pushing the same line is pure co-incidence.
  • The coronavirus that originated in Wuhan, China, couldn't possibly have come from the Coronavirus research lab in Wuhan, China, and to say otherwise is a wild conspiracy theory, which no less that Polifact called a Pants on Fire lie.
  • Shutdowns are the best and only way to combat the spread, and if you lose your business and life savings, the government will put you on welfare so you'll be OK. Meanwhile we don't lose our jobs, pensions, or a single retirement point.
  • Just Two Weeks to Slow the Spread!!!
  • 30 Days to Flatten the Curve!!!
  • There is a 10% outdoor transmission rate - wear your mask outside!
  • It's wrong and dangerous to protest against the shutdowns, you'll spread the virus and kill people.
  • It's OK to protest though for approved causes like the Burn Loot Movement - you won't spread the virus and it's very important to pack the streets and scream slogans at the top of your lungs.
  • But it's dangerous for churches to hold in-person ceremonies - you'll spread the virus.
  • OK maybe a bit more than 30 days to flatten the curve - like 16 months.
  • Actually, we were off a bit - there's only a 1% outdoor transmission rate, but on a log scale (which you rubes don't know anything about) it's not that big of a mistake.
  • It's not possible to create a vaccine by the end of the year, it'll take years, and President Trump's Operation Warp Speed is a joke.
  • The vaccine is is wonderful and all must take it, even those under 30 in good shape, and with a minuscule risk or virus effects.
  • You should still wear masks for ???? reasons.
  • This vaccine, developed in a year though we said that was impossible, and produced under emergency rules and with liability waivers to the manufactures, is perfectly safe.
  • OK maybe, maybe the coronavirus that originated in Wuhan, China, might have come from the Coronavirus research lab in Wuhan, China, we'll see which way the wind blows politically before we say anything else.
  • You must wear masks on all airplanes, even if you're vaccinated, unless you're an elected Democrat running away from your duties, in which case we won't talk about it.
  • You should get the vaccine, so you don't have to wear a mask and can go back to normal.
  • You should get the vaccine, but wear a mask anyway, even though there's no real world data to show they do anything.
  • You should wear two masks.
  • Parents should wear masks at home with their kids (!), so that they don't spread the Wuhan to them, and also so they they can become emotionally disturbed from never seeing their parents faces.
  • People should not go to the Sturgis motorcycle rally - you'll spread the virus. Just let your business go bankrupt and the government will put you on welfare - meanwhile I, St. Dr. Fauci, hasn't lost a paycheck or a single retirement point.
  • We Experts!!! though will be quiet as a church mouse about hundreds of people flying in on private gets to celebrate King Barry's birthday. He's a prime Party Member in Good Standing, and the CDC says nothing about those people.
  • We are also silent about the possible impact of 250,000 people a month running across the border, all from countries with miniscule vaccination rates, with up to 40% of them actually having the Wuhan. We realize that these are replacement voters for Americans who are not always reliable in their voting choices, and so should be welcomed into the country with open arms and no virus testing.
  • Things like liberty are overrated, and should be discarded, as our St. said: "Put aside all of these issues of concern about liberties and personal liberties and realize we have a common enemy and that common enemy is the virus."
  • We should go back to masks and lockdowns - since they didn't work last time, they're bound to this time, via the law of averages!
  • We shall again be quiet as church mice about flying in 50-100 thousand Afghans, from a country with about zero vaccinations, and being packed together 800 in a plane. We will also not insist on any testing or quarantining of these people, as the ruling class has decided they are all wonderful angles.
  • However, if you, a US citizen, have not been vaccinated, you should not travel, not even to visit someone across town.
  • The government has no plans of mandating the vaccine.
  • All people, including children, must take the vaccine or be fired from their jobs. No better way to look after the health and safety of people than to deny them employment and income.
  • The government has no plans to require people to show their medical papers for basic life activities, that's a crazy internet conspiracy theory.
  • It's even more of a crazy internet conspiracy theory that your medical papers will need to be loaded up onto your phone for monitoring.
  • All persons in Democrat run areas must show their medical history before being allowed to enter public buildings. Even better if the data is uploaded to your phone.
  • It's crazy internet conspiracy theory to say that the government will later change the definition of "fully vaccinated" to include booster shots.
  • Only people who have had the most recent booster shot(s) will be considered full vaccinated.
  • If you get vaccinated, you will not spread the virus, so everyone must be vaccinated no matter what your risk factors, or what other health conditions you may have.
  • The vaccines don't actually stop you spreading the virus, but we always knew that, what they do do is is keep you from catching the virus.
  • The vaccines don't actually stop your from catching the virus, what they do do is keep you from getting a bad case.
  • While there is no impact on anyone else if a person doesn't get the vaccine, we still want these people fired from their jobs, denied entrance into public facilities, and generally treated as Jews during the rule of the National Socialists.
  • Actually cloth masks do nothing to stop the spread of a virus - we knew that all along but said they were so important to obtain control and compliance from the population. You must now obtain a N-95 or greater mask as the other ones are just dirty socks.
  • We must vaccine children, who have almost zero chance of dying from the Wuhan, and who die in higher numbers from the common flu, despite doing no long term testing on the effects of this vaccine on them.
  • We also must make children wear cotton fabric over their faces all day long, which gets infested with bacterial and other disease, restricts their breathing, and leads to unknown social and psychological problems. But only for public schools. As the children of those in the Ruling Class are of course in private school, it will not apply to them.
  • Now that our political masters have gone underwater in poling on the Wuhan, suddenly we don't recommend counting Wuhan cases as a way of measuring how well the virus is being handled.
  • And now that our political masters have gone underwater in poling on the Wuhan, suddenly we realized that not everyone who died with the Wuhan may have died from it.
  • We will methodically re-count deaths listed as from the Wuhan and lower the overall death count - but only in states with a Democrat governor. Florida will still have those who died from a car crash counted as a Wuhan death if their blood comes back Wuhan positive. Death-Santis!
  • It is vitally important that everyone wear masks during football games in LA, unless you're the governor or the mayor of San Fran, in which case the virus knows how important these people are and won't dare infect them, or the dude with HIV they're shaking hands with.
  • Now that more Americans have died from the Wuhan under Biden than Trump, we'll never mention that ever again.
  • Now that our political masters are looking at an electoral wipeout in November, we do not recommend adults wear masks in public.
  • Now that our political masters are are looking at an electoral wipeout in November, we do not recommend forcing children to wear dirty face coverings all day long.
  • While we called DeSantis Death-Santis!!! last year, and said he was killing citizens in his state, we will now applaud Democrat governors who are doing the exact same things, though case and death counts are at similar levels to when Florida got rid of restrictions.
And as predicted by me back in Feb, the below items are now part of the media - Science! lore as fact!
  • We have always believed in local control of Wuhan measures, and the CDC never told anyone what to do, merely provided guidance by Science!
  • We have always been against lockdowns.
  • We have always known that masks did nothing.
  • We have always believed in keeping schools open. in fact, the Democrat party always wanted to keep schools open, while the Republican party wanted to keep them closed.
  • We have always known that getting the Wuhan and surviving gives you more protection than a shot that needs a booster within 6 months - same as with every virus previously known to man.
  • We have never recommended mandatory vaccines for the Wuhan, nor firing anyone who hasn't gotten the shot.
  • We have always believed in medicines like Ivermectin, which is a known safe and effective drug with a billion usages, as therapeutics to relive Wuhan symptoms and increase survivability.
  • No matter how many times we're wrong, or have lied to you, you're a stupid Science Denier! if you don't listen to us now.
  • I AM THE SCIENCE!!
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National Propaganda Radio. As I wrote:

  • The coronavirus that originated in Wuhan, China, couldn't possibly have come from the coronavirus research lab in Wuhan, China, and to say otherwise is a wild conspiracy theory, which no less that Polifact called a Pants on Fire lie.

The misinformation is what comes from the leftist media, which is 95% of all media outlets.
 
The Republican wave in 1994 promised to defund NPR, but never did anything about when in power. One of the many reasons I don't trust Republicans.
 
We were full of crap about virtually everything and shamed, demonized, and censored people who called us on it, but you just have to let some **** slide and declare a "COVID amnesty." Link.

No. Here's the problem. I could go along if people had made good faith errors and had been open to discussion when legitimate questions were asked. But that isn't what happened. People were subject to massive shaming. People lost their jobs wrongly. Government colluded with tech companies to have people's basic free speech rights violated. Furthermore, a destructive agenda was forced long after it became clear that it was the wrong thing to do. You don't give amnesty for stuff like that.
 
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nashhorn said:
And we are equally full of crap requiring juveniles and infants to get the vaccine. Disgusting.
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But it's a virtue signaling opportunity. You get to post a picture of your kid getting vaccinated on Facebook. Makes you look righteous in progressive circles.
 
Mr D
My niece is EXACTLY who you referenced. On FB She posted a pic of her 2.5yo daughter getting jabbed. And got tons of how wonderful and caring replies.
She is a Pediatric Surgeon at Boston Gen.:confused2: How could she not do more research?
I did not reply.
 
Horn6721 said:
Mr D
My niece is EXACTLY who you referenced. On FB She posted a pic of her 2.5yo daughter getting jabbed. And got tons of how wonderful and caring replies.
She is a Pediatric Surgeon at Boston Gen.:confused2: How could she not do more research?
I did not reply.
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Because it's not about doing the right thing for your kid. It's about looking righteous for others. It is a largely self-centered thing to do, especially if you're posting it on social media. The well-being of the child is at most secondary.

Frankly, I think not doing research is part of the equation. It looks better if you do it on faith. Keep in mind that this isn't science. It's ideology.
 
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