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theiioftx said:
Fauci is going to retire before November. I wonder why? He will probably take an emeritus position at Wuhan where he will be protected from extradition.
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Dude will turn 82 this year. We should require all these old farts to get out of public service after 74.
 
theiioftx said:
If he is the Republican ticket in 2024, I’ll vote for him again. I just hope he isn’t.
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Me, too, theiisoftx. I'll vote for the GOP candidate, even if it's Trump. I fear that if Trump is the nominee, the Dems will turn out in record numbers to vote against him (not "for" the Dem candidate, just "against" Trump) - and that would have many ramifications down-ballot. I prefer DeSantis or Nikki Haley.
 
HornHuskerDad said:
Me, too, theiisoftx. I'll vote for the GOP candidate, even if it's Trump. I fear that if Trump is the nominee, the Dems will turn out in record numbers to vote against him (not "for" the Dem candidate, just "against" Trump) - and that would have many

ramifications down-ballot. I prefer DeSantis or Nikki Haley.
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I’d vote for Tom Herman over trump.
 
OUBubba said:
Dude will turn 82 this year. We should require all these old farts to get out of public service after 74.
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I wouldn't have an arbitrary limit - certainly not in all of public service. At least within DoDEA (my wife's agency), the older employees tend to be the best ones.
 
Trump won’t be nominated again, but he will go scorched earth during the process opening up an independent like Perot to hand the democrats a win.
 
No he could destroy it by helping another idiot like Biden be POTUS. Certainly you don’t think the country is headed in the right direction? I’m guessing you might ignore the question.
 
theiioftx said:
No he could destroy it by helping another idiot like Biden be POTUS. Certainly you don’t think the country is headed in the right direction? I’m guessing you might ignore the question.
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The unemployment rate is at a SIGNIFICANT low. Unemployment Rate by Year Since 1929 Compared to Inflation and GDP
Consumer spending is up slightly. There are positive signs compared to perceptions. We were due for a market correction and have been for some time. Trump took office on a 128 month streak of positives - the longest in history. Trump's people saw it coming and fought it off with deficit spending. I mean he was inheriting that economy and campaigned on "American Carnage" and promised to eliminate the national debt in 8 years - I guess he was planning on doing that in his second term. He was a charlatan.

The pandemic changed the economy on Trump and I don't blame him for anything that happened with the economy because of it. I just think it's laughable that we're gonna blame Biden for a global trend. Keep on keeping on, I guess.

Because I know you'll love it, here's a very good summary in wikipedia of the pre-pandemic Trump economy:

President Trump inherited an economy in January 2017 that was already at a record level on many key measures, such as the number of persons with jobs,[19] real median household income,[21] household net worth,[22] and stock market level. It also featured a low unemployment rate of 4.7%, very low inflation, and a moderate budget deficit.[23][3] While Trump referred to "American carnage" in his first inaugural address and announced an "America First" economic strategy,[24][25] overall the economy when he began was on solid ground in terms of major aggregate measures.[3][4] The Congressional Budget Office forecast in January 2017 that assuming the continuation of Obama policies (current law), real GDP growth would be 1.8% in 2017 and 2.3% in 2018, and unemployment would continue falling to 4.4% by 2018, as the economy reached full employment.[26]

A key part of Trump's economic strategy was to temporarily boost growth via tax cuts and additional spending,[2] with mixed success.[27] Comparing the 2014–2016 period (President Obama's last three years) with the 2017–2019 period (President Trump's first three years), actual results included several variables that continued their previous improvement trends, such as the unemployment rate, which had been falling since 2010 for all ethnic groups.[28] Some variables improved (e.g., real GDP growth and nominal wage growth) while others worsened (e.g., inflation and real wage growth).[6][27] Compared to the January 2017 Congressional Budget Office (CBO) ten-year forecast just prior to Trump's inauguration, the unemployment rate, job creation, and real GDP improved over the 2017–2019 period.[26]

Contributing to this economic performance were large annual budget deficits of $779 billion in 2018 and $984 billion in 2019, about 60% above the CBO 10-year forecast.[26] Sustained economic expansions have historically brought down deficits, indicating the high degree to which economic stimulus has helped growth under Trump.[2] CBO explained in January 2020 that budget deficits averaged 1.5% of GDP over the past 50 years when the economy was "relatively strong (as it is now)." However, the budget deficit was 4.6% GDP in fiscal year 2019 and was expected to average 4.8% GDP over the 2021–2030 period.[1][29] The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimated in January 2020 that President Trump had signed $4.2 trillion of additional debt into law for the 2017–2026 decade, and $4.7 trillion for 2017–2029. This was on top of the $17.2 trillion debt held by the public and the $9.2 trillion already expected to be added to the debt excluding these proposals.[30]
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Trump falsely characterized the economy during his presidency as the best in American history over 250 times.[55][56]
 
Thanks for the synopsis of Trump. All you got is unemployment is low, but by all looks at reality it’s not an accurate number in true measurement. Ever heard of the “great resignation?”

inflation is at a 40 year high
There are National shortages in food, especially baby formula
There is a fentanyl crisis
There is a crime crisis
There is a border crisis
China and Russia are walking all over us
There is no strategy with Covid
Americans are more split than ever

but again I appreciate the response.
 
theiioftx said:
Thanks for the synopsis of Trump. All you got is unemployment is low, but by all looks at reality it’s not an accurate number in true measurement. Ever heard of the “great resignation?”

inflation is at a 40 year high
There are National shortages in food, especially baby formula
There is a fentanyl crisis
There is a crime crisis
There is a border crisis
China and Russia are walking all over us
There is no strategy with Covid
Americans are more split than ever

but again I appreciate the response.
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But for the 40 year high and the shortages (that are pandemic related) those all existed on 1/19/2021. They're not "new things".

We're not more split than ever. We've not had a dual in years. :)
 
Huh? I don't get it.
Dual: consisting of two parts, elements, or aspects.

How do you relate this to politics to say we are not more split than ever? Duality implies a split by its very definition.
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
Huh? I don't get it.
Dual: consisting of two parts, elements, or aspects.

How do you relate this to politics to say we are not more split than ever? Duality implies a split by its very definition.
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dual, duel? The one where you pace and shoot at the other one. English is a second language to me.
 
Switzer is right that Biden didn't start these fires. However . .

(1) He has poured significant amounts of gasoline on them and has tried to pour even more than he has.

(2) Most of them are products of policies his party and others of a similar mindset on other nations support - weak criminal laws, recklessly inflationary fiscal and monetary policies, weak border security, and discouraging domestic energy production (and therefore encouraging reliance on Russian and Middle Eastern energy).
 
OUBubba said:
But for the 40 year high and the shortages (that are pandemic related) those all existed on 1/19/2021. They're not "new things".

We're not more split than ever. We've not had a dual in years. :)
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Bubba defending Biden is akin to the mother of a mass murderer saying, "He's a good boy".

Even Libs with half a brain want Biden gone.
 
nashhorn said:
Just the statement “but for the 40 year high and the shortages” is funny.
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Inflation is at a 40 year high due to the pandemic. It would have happened if God was president. That’s my point.

The AC version of bubba could argue that Russia released covid in china to hide the solar winds hack that was simply to have tentacles spread wide and secretly prior to their Ukrainian adventures.
 
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OUBubba said:
Inflation is at a 40 year high due to the pandemic. It would have happened if God was president. That’s my point.

The AC version of bubba could argue that Russia released covid in china to hide the solar winds hack that was simply to have tentacles spread wide and secretly prior to their Ukrainian adventures.
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Yeah, the inflation had absolutely nothing to do with the pouring of funny money into the economy. lol
 
OUBubba said:
Inflation is at a 40 year high due to the pandemic.
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Inflation is at a 40 year high because the morons in the federal bureaucracy decided to print unimaginably huge amounts of fiat currency and dumped it all on the market in response to the pandemic. The pandemic itself had nothing to do with inflation.
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
Inflation is at a 40 year high because the morons in the federal bureaucracy decided to print unimaginably huge amounts of fiat currency and dumped it all on the market in response to the pandemic. The pandemic itself had nothing to do with inflation.
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Agree 100%.

Just to be clear, you’re saying it’s NOT Biden’s fault with that statement.
 
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