Coronavirus

OUBubba said:
That was only discussed in this medium as something that might come up if there were limited rooms/options. Like we have one icu ventilator left. Do we give it to the vaccinated person or the unvaccinated person. That’s it.
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Well, since the "vaccine" is supposed to be so effective :lmao:at preventing covid, oops, no it isn't, and then lessening the symptoms, uh oh, well, how could that be if a "vaccinated" person may need an ICU bed, why would we have a shortage of ICU beds?

I don't remember a time in my life ever that I was supposed to live my life based on trying to not become gravely ill with a virus so people who spent their entire lives being unhealthy could have a precious bed in an ICU.

Why am I supposes to be concerned with this?

Back to the fantasy of ICUs being overrun with covid people, you still say that the vaccinated person who inexplicably is so ill from covid still gets first dibs?
 
horninchicago said:
Well, since the "vaccine" is supposed to be so effective :lmao:at preventing covid, oops, no it isn't, and then lessening the symptoms, uh oh, well, how could that be if a "vaccinated" person may need an ICU bed, why would we have a shortage of ICU beds?

I don't remember a time in my life ever that I was supposed to live my life based on trying to not become gravely ill with a virus so people who spent their entire lives being unhealthy could have a precious bed in an ICU.

Why am I supposes to be concerned with this?

Back to the fantasy of ICUs being overrun with covid people, you still say that the vaccinated person who inexplicably is so ill from covid still gets first dibs?
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So you don’t believe in math. Got it.
 
OUBubba said:
So you don’t believe in math. Got it.
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Say what?

Again, why do you want me to live my life to save ICU beds? What does that have to do with math? Why is the government and people like you trying to get men to do what I don't want to do?

Oh, look, I know all this common sense talk of not buy-in gin to fear mongering is lost on you. My comments are more for the other normal thinkers on covid.
 
horninchicago said:
Say what?

Again, why do you want me to live my life to save ICU beds? What does that have to do with math? Why is the government and people like you trying to get men to do what I don't want to do?

Oh, look, I know all this common sense talk of not buy-in gin to fear mongering is lost on you. My comments are more for the other normal thinkers on covid.
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You do you. I give no shits about your status.
 
horninchicago said:
Say what?

Again, why do you want me to live my life to save ICU beds? What does that have to do with math? Why is the government and people like you trying to get men to do what I don't want to do?

Oh, look, I know all this common sense talk of not buy-in gin to fear mongering is lost on you. My comments are more for the other normal thinkers on covid.
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Damn, you’re on to us.
 
horninchicago said:
Why aren't flu shots mandated? Not that I want the idiots in charge to have any new ideas.
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Because at best, a flu shot is a best guess at the strain du jour. It prevents nothing. Those that get it are HOPING the guess on strain was correct AND that they have the few days available to do nothing because of feeling like crap after the shot.

And yes, it IS another shot I don't and won't get. I'm also coming up on 15 years since my last bout with it, which is the only bout in more than 20 years. My immune system identifies as functioning...
 
OUBubba said:
That was only discussed in this medium as something that might come up if there were limited rooms/options. Like we have one icu ventilator left. Do we give it to the vaccinated person or the unvaccinated person. That’s it.
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Or...you take steps to have one evac'ed from states that literally have thousands of them available (you know, like Texas).
 
mb227 said:
Because at best, a flu shot is a best guess at the strain du jour. It prevents nothing. Those that get it are HOPING the guess on strain was correct AND that they have the few days available to do nothing because of feeling like crap after the shot.

And yes, it IS another shot I don't and won't get. I'm also coming up on 15 years since my last bout with it, which is the only bout in more than 20 years. My immune system identifies as functioning...
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Sound like...the covid shot.
 
Coach, I'm just curious. Are you ok with prioritizing health resources based on the pre-illness conduct of the patient in general or just with Covid? For example, if a fat guy and a thin guy come in with symptoms of heart attack, should we automatically put the thin guy ahead because he probably ate more responsibly? If two people who were injured in car wrecks come in, do we prioritize the care of the person who wasn't at fault over the care of the person who was talking on his cell phone, fidgeting with his stereo, or driving drunk?
 
Mr. Deez said:
Coach, I'm just curious. Are you ok with prioritizing health resources based on the pre-illness conduct of the patient in general or just with Covid? For example, if a fat guy and a thin guy come in with symptoms of heart attack, should we automatically put the thin guy ahead because he probably ate more responsibly? If two people who were injured in car wrecks come in, do we prioritize the care of the person who wasn't at fault over the care of the person who was talking on his cell phone, fidgeting with his stereo, or driving drunk?
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The answer will again come back to the fact that Coach and others are laying claim to only advocating for this when the ER is so backed up because of the heinous unvaccinated that these difficult triage decisions would have to be made.

Where is the BS flag emoji?
 
horninchicago said:
The answer will again come back to the fact that Coach and others are laying claim to only advocating for this when the ER is so backed up because of the heinous unvaccinated that these difficult triage decisions would have to be made.

Where is the BS flag emoji?
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ICU’s get filled up on occasion. There are disasters sometimes that lead to this kind of thinking on the ground. I would advocate that general logic be used in rationing in those scenarios. Age and general health are reasonable to use when triaging these scenarios. And, when Covid is involved, due to the vaccine’s documented success dealing with hospitalization and death, that should be a consideration. Please alert me when this takes place.
 
OUBubba said:
ICU’s get filled up on occasion. There are disasters sometimes that lead to this kind of thinking on the ground. I would advocate that general logic be used in rationing in those scenarios. Age and general health are reasonable to use when triaging these scenarios. And, when Covid is involved, due to the vaccine’s documented success dealing with hospitalization and death, that should be a consideration. Please alert me when this takes place.
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Yes, the occasional train derailment, plane crash, etc., agreed, triage decisions would be made. But again, if the rona shot is so effective, why would a "vaccinated" person be sick to the point of needing the ICU in the first place? That is where you're losing me. Well, and being a Sooner fan.
 
OUBubba said:
ICU’s get filled up on occasion. There are disasters sometimes that lead to this kind of thinking on the ground. I would advocate that general logic be used in rationing in those scenarios. Age and general health are reasonable to use when triaging these scenarios. And, when Covid is involved, due to the vaccine’s documented success dealing with hospitalization and death, that should be a consideration. Please alert me when this takes place.
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And yet we see an appalling LACK of 'general logic' to this whole mandate thing. Follow the science was abandoned in favor of follow the agency that changes as the wind blows. That does not portend well for ANY claim of 'general logic' to rationing. Instead, we get the very death panel situation the left tried claiming more than a decade ago would NEVER occur in the United States.
 
horninchicago said:
Yes, the occasional train derailment, plane crash, etc., agreed, triage decisions would be made. But again, if the rona shot is so effective, why would a "vaccinated" person be sick to the point of needing the ICU in the first place? That is where you're losing me. Well, and being a Sooner fan.
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'so effective' :lmao::lmao::lmao:

Hell, the left still refuses to acknowledge people like Dakota Dozier.
 
Was just about to post epoch times article on that Garner but requires a subscription. This sounds unreal. Can anyone say this is normal? 50 years?
 

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You know it seems to me that if following Hippocratic oath and the quoted ‘science’ of susceptible illness the “unvaccinated” should get priority since they are the most vulnerable. But I’m sure I’m missing something.
 
horninchicago said:
But again, if the rona shot is so effective, why would a "vaccinated" person be sick to the point of needing the ICU in the first place? That is where you're losing me.
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Again, this is just another example of Switzer (and others like the CDC) talking and acting like the vaccine doesn't work very well.
 
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