Coronavirus

35% of adults (and likely higher in children but not tested), have T cell immunity to spike protein of coronavirus. This is why you only need 20-25% infection to get to herd immunity. US is probably at 10-15% infected, so halfway there (which is why we are at the peak phase).
 
A recent study has shown 3 levels of antibodies present (hi, med, lo). Some antibody tests miss the folks who who have low levels, thus undercounting those who have been exposed. After a few months, antibodies at all levels start to decline. This is normal for all diseases. No one knows exactly what is required for immunity. Latest data from Pfizer vaccine trial says both antibodies and T cells were triggered. People think you need both but it’s possible that only T cells are needed.
 
Where did all the HCQ haters go?
Seems like they disappeared

This week the Association of American Physicians & Surgeons submitted additional evidence to a federal court for why interference with hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) should end by the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), in AAPS v. FDA, No. 1:20-cv-00493-RJJ-SJB (W.D. Mich.).

"As confirmed by another recent study of thousands of patients at the Henry Ford Health System in Michigan, HCQ is both very safe and highly effective in treating COVID-19, reducing mortality by 50%," AAPS informed the court in its filing. "Countries with underdeveloped health care systems are using HCQ early and attaining far lower mortality than in the United States, where [HHS and the FDA] impede access to HCQ."

Yet most Americans are still unable to obtain HCQ for early treatment of COVID-19, and virtually no Americans are able to access it as preventive medicine. HCQ has been used safely for decades by travelers to protect against malaria, but Americans are dying from COVID-19 while HCQ is withheld from them.

"Citizens of the Philippines, Poland, Israel, and Turkey all have greater access to HCQ than American citizens do," observes AAPS General Counsel Andrew Schlafly. "In Venezuela, HCQ is available over the counter without a prescription, while in the United States pharmacists are prevented from filling prescriptions for HCQ."​
More Evidence Presented for Why Hydroxychloroquine Should be Made Available, in a New Court Filing by the Association of American Physicians & Surgeons (AAPS)
 
If I can figure out how to post it I’ll share the Hydroxy discussion of the other Drs with the lady some trashed on here due to her wild views. My wife discovered that among them (the doctors) is our own Opthalmic surgeon, a great guy whom I trust. The link is thru Breitbart and the discussions are quite compelling. It really is a conspiracy. His name is Urso if you want to find it.
 
It would appear that Congress is not testing members for the coronavirus before they come into the Capitol. These are people who travel alot. All over. It's unlikely that all of them closely follow safety protocols. All sorts of people are in and out of the Capitol on a daily basis. Pelosi and Chuck Grassley in the line of succession to the presidency.

Trump offered them testing
Pelosi and McConnell turned down the offer

Pelosi And McConnell Decline White House Offer Of Coronavirus Tests For Capitol Hill
 
Do as we say, not as we do. In the earlier clip of that fat slob Nadler, did he have a mask on in public or was he just using the waist band of his high riding pants to cover up his face?
 
I35 that’s the same meeting my Doc participated in plus the one on the DC steps. Wish I could attach, he discusses his trepidation from pressure he received in reporting positive results then it goes to question and answering at the DC venue.
 
I know only two people who were diagnosed with covid 19, one couldn’t taste or smell for 3 days. The other no symptoms. I know people are dead because of covid, but how many are dead because of flu?
 
humahuma said:
I know only two people who were diagnosed with covid 19, one couldn’t taste or smell for 3 days. The other no symptoms. I know people are dead because of covid, but how many are dead because of flu?
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60-70k in a bad year.
 
nashhorn said:
I35 that’s the same meeting my Doc participated in plus the one on the DC steps. Wish I could attach, he discusses his trepidation from pressure he received in reporting positive results then it goes to question and answering at the DC venue.
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The state of Ohio has banned the use of Hydroxychloroquine. How in the hell does a state ban a FDA drug that is ordered by a licensed physician? We have become a completely lawless society.
 
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nashhorn said:
I35 that’s the same meeting my Doc participated in plus the one on the DC steps. Wish I could attach, he discusses his trepidation from pressure he received in reporting positive results then it goes to question and answering at the DC venue.
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It’s a “win at all cost” when it comes to the left’s mentality.
 
Met with Dr Urso, the guy with the group of ER Drs that made the trip to Wash, I learned that a few met with VP Pence and a few Senators plus doing several interviews including Charlie Kirk. Was invited to Hannity and interest by Carlson but meeting with Pence interfered. Several newspaper interviews but I told him forget those. He laughed and said he had recorded them so he could compare anything they wrote.
As an aside he said that lady (Alice?) was quite funny and actually very bright. Said when she heard all the backlash she said “ fine, I’ll just put a hex and send the demons on them”.
In the end we agreed it was hopeless In today’s charged political climate and that only when Trump lost would Biden create the new miracle of a now safe Hydroxychloro drug. Most importantly though I left there with a hydroxy script!!! Yahoo for me
 
Well there you go, just learned one of the Drs, the female licensed ER Doc in the Washington group that challenged the Covid coverage, has been let go from her position. Don’t know anymore than that. No this is not the black woman, this is the lone white woman.
Evidently there also is a social media smear campaign going on too because she said she has hired a lawyer to defend against some negative tweets or such.
 
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