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I am sorry for how things turned out with Brown's leaving. Hate that we had to go through so many bad years when we could have had Saban.
I don't know many people OR institutions that don't put what they see as a good for them ahead of anything else
 
Phil Elliott said:
MB's greatest sin in my eyes is that he put what was good for Mack Brown ahead of what was good for The University of Texas.
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You know, and I respect everyone’s opinion here, but I just don’t care if he acted like a baby at the end. He restored pride and a fear in our opponents that had been missing for so long. If you look at the coaches we had before and after Mack (McWilliams, Mackovic - he actually won something but everyone hated him, Strong, Herman) I don’t know how you can’t just tip your cap in gratitude to Mack. We’ve had some really ****** years in the 2 decades surrounding his tenure. If I won a championship for a “blue blood” that waited 35 years since the last one, I’d flex whatever muscle I had and would tell the BMD’s to blow me. But that’s just me.
 
das3603 said:
You know, and I respect everyone’s opinion here, but I just don’t care if he acted like a baby at the end. He restored pride and a fear in our opponents that had been missing for so long. If you look at the coaches we had before and after Mack (McWilliams, Mackovic - he actually won something but everyone hated him, Strong, Herman) I don’t know how you can’t just tip your cap in gratitude to Mack. We’ve had some really ****** years in the 2 decades surrounding his tenure. If I won a championship for a “blue blood” that waited 35 years since the last one, I’d flex whatever muscle I had and would tell the BMD’s to blow me. But that’s just me.
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Ditto with the gratitude, however...

For me it wasn't the attitude in 2013. It was the loyalty to guys who were either 9-toes-out-the-door-checked-out or fondling coeds.

Whether it was making Ron Prince look like Vince Lombardi, or giving Larry Mac Duff another shot at coaching after the game had passed him by, or allowing Bobby Kennedy anywhere near a paycheck, Mack's stubbornness really sent us back to the stone age in terms of culture and development. When the rest of the college football world was energized by change, Mack shut down. Chris Petersen said "hell no" because of what was left in the cupboard when Mack resigned.
 
SabreHorn said:
What was left in the cupboard was not the primary reason Peterson said "no".
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Oh for sure, but from what I heard, there was a definite swear word before the "no."

Moving on to "Option #2" of Chuck Strong was kind of a Hail Mary in terms of desperation.
 
Horns11 said:
Oh for sure, but from what I heard, there was a definite swear word before the "no."

Moving on to "Option #2" of Chuck Strong was kind of a Hail Mary in terms of desperation.
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There was no "desperation", only Billie Powers greedy desire to create his legacy (to help him overcome the one he created at the law school). Were there options, yes; were their desirable options, perhaps a few, but we will never know because Billie did it all by himself.
 
das3603 said:
You know, and I respect everyone’s opinion here, but I just don’t care if he acted like a baby at the end. He restored pride and a fear in our opponents that had been missing for so long. If you look at the coaches we had before and after Mack (McWilliams, Mackovic - he actually won something but everyone hated him, Strong, Herman) I don’t know how you can’t just tip your cap in gratitude to Mack. We’ve had some really ****** years in the 2 decades surrounding his tenure. If I won a championship for a “blue blood” that waited 35 years since the last one, I’d flex whatever muscle I had and would tell the BMD’s to blow me. But that’s just me.
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No doubt Mack brought us back to greatness. And for that, he deserves a considerable amount of credit. The question is, how long does he get a pass for what was accomplished, through the 2009 season? And, what was the nature of his exit.

Had he exited graciously, Mack would be revered by “every” Longhorn fan today. Instead, his exit was tumultuous and self-centered. It damaged the program and for many, tainted his legacy.

Just speaking for myself, even today, I cannot look at or listen to Mack Brown without having a sense of phoniness and absence of sincerity .
 
dukesteer said:
No doubt Mack brought us back to greatness. And for that, he deserves a considerable amount of credit. The question is, how long does he get a pass for what was accomplished, through the 2009 season? And, what was the nature of his exit.

Had he exited graciously, Mack would be revered by “every” Longhorn fan today. Instead, his exit was tumultuous and self-centered. It damaged the program and for many, tainted his legacy.

Just speaking for myself, even today, I cannot look at or listen to Mack Brown without having a sense of phoniness and absence of sincerity .
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Point taken to you and @Horns11. I’m just glad this is a place we can come to and express our opinions and differences without it turning into a pissing contest guys. 🤘🏼
 
And speaking for myself if Mack was phony and insincere he had that down to a science.
Attended a TexExes meet and greet at a Mexican restaurant for Mack his first year. I was Naturally standing in line for drinks when Mack walked behind me, shook my hand and said "I am Mack Brown" as if I didn't know. "Nice to meet you" . Hell yes I was happy to meet him.
In late late Dec when the Horns were practicing at SMU for Cotton Bowl against MsState I am standing outside the wire around field with my dog. Mack came over with reporters trailing him and said, " Good to see you again". :headbang:
That is some HIGH level all the time phoniness.
 
BornOrange0855 said:
God bless Mack for 2005. As a coach, he admitted to finally leaving VY alone. Great coaching. LOL. No one can blame him for Colt's injury vs Bama. Just a bad break. And I'll go to my grave knowing we got the shaft in 2008. I think we would have defeated Florida. But everything after 2009 was a debacle. And he was the guy in charge.
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I can blame him for Colt's injury. Or at least blame Davis.

There was no reason to run Colt on that play, especially since he had been banged up on running plays during the year. He was shredding the Bama pass defense. He's your best player. He's a little fragile. Why on earth do you run that play?
 
TEXAS1983 said:
I can blame him for Colt's injury. Or at least blame Davis.

There was no reason to run Colt on that play, especially since he had been banged up on running plays during the year. He was shredding the Bama pass defense. He's your best player. He's a little fragile. Why on earth do you run that play?
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Because you're Greg Davis and have been doing stupid **** like that all your career except when Doug Etheridge had him in the pressbox and wouldn't let him call the plays.

My favorite Mack Brown/Greg Davis moment was when they had the lead on UVA late in the fourth quarter, and Mack's dumbass DC called man coverage for the 5'10" DB to go man on Germain Crowell who was like 6"7". One play major gain with about two minutes. George Welsh walked down to Rick Lantz and had a quick conversation, On first down, walkon QB takes the snap, goes two giant steps sideways and takes a knee. Then UVA kicks a FG.

Coach Rick took off his headset, strolled out to the hashmark, looked over at the UNC sideline and up in the pressbox and said (quote), "Bring it on, you're not ******* good enough".

"It ain't braggin if you can back it up"

As I've said since he left Jefferson County, Greg is a great guy, BUT he's as predictable as an Alter Call in a Southern Baptist Church on Sunday morning.
 
Now that my repressed memory of that game has been jogged, didn't Davis completely handcuff the play calling all first half after Colt went down?

Its like the coaches just gave up for a quarter and a half.
 
1983,

IIRC, he did have at least one good call, but our WR made the wrong read on a timing route which resulted in a costly pick
 
TEXAS1983 said:
Now that my repressed memory of that game has been jogged, didn't Davis completely handcuff the play calling all first half after Colt went down?

Its like the coaches just gave up for a quarter and a half.
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While we were hamstrung at QB and Nebraska revealed to Bama what to do to our OL, it's not like Greg Davis didn't have entire games on his resume where he handcuffed the team. And not just his "Texas" part of the resume.
 
I find it interesting that Washington (Last year) and Oregon (this year) are bringing "it"....PAC 12 severely UNDERRATED!!!!
 
SabreHorn said:
WB,

Why so critical? Look at some of the powerhouses they have beaten. :beertoast:
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I hadn't paid much attention until you brought it up, Sabre. Looking at those five wins, it's hard to pick a best and a worst. You could throw an 8X6 tarp over all five of them.
 
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SabreHorn said:
Have they announced the "All Prison Team" made up of his former players?

I guess I should give him his props since he seems to be at least half a step up the ethics ladder from Paterno
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My dad was a proud Nittany Lion since graduating postwar with an engineering degree.

The Sandusky and Paterno revelations just devastated him. He did always wonder why Sandusky never got any coaching offers after leaving Penn State.
 
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