Brittany Griner

As Agnes Moorehead so eloquently said in her role in Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte….”You just can’t keep the pigs away from the trough”….
 
She’s going to a prison “camp.” Not sure what that entails, but it doesn’t sound good. (Picturing a Siberian Gulag in my head).

Better hope she gets that prisoner swap before winter hits.
 
Bobcat said:
This was expected. She’s being used as a pawn by Putin….
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Oh bullsh*t. Griner CHOSE to commit a violation of the law, as evidenced by the 'oh I have a doctor's note' claims that have been made.

When you go to a foreign place, whether another nation or even just a different State, you follow the law. If you CHOOSE not to do so, you deal with the consequence. Griner is NOT being 'wrongfully detained' like the SJW's are claiming. Griner is in custody consistent with the law and practice of the nation where the violation took place.
 
mb227 said:
Oh bullsh*t. Griner CHOSE to commit a violation of the law, as evidenced by the 'oh I have a doctor's note' claims that have been made.

When you go to a foreign place, whether another nation or even just a different State, you follow the law. If you CHOOSE not to do so, you deal with the consequence. Griner is NOT being 'wrongfully detained' like the SJW's are claiming. Griner is in custody consistent with the law and practice of the nation where the violation took place.
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It is amazing how far someone will go to defend a POS like "her" but will talk **** to posters here.

The rest of my thoughts are so profound and disgusting, the posting guidelines prohibit listing them here.
 
Does anyone disagree with mb's point?
That Griner knew the laws and chose to flaunt them?
Why should our Gov't protect someone who chose to ignore laws?
 
Ironic that the politicians who are trying to get her released from prison in Russia won't change drug laws in the US, meaning they would support putting her in a US prison. Hypocrites.
 
guy4321 said:
What's the over / under on her sentence only lasting six months before she's prisoner swapped?
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I think she'll get the swap--Griner plus the ex-Marine and maybe that teacher for the arms dealer plus maybe some other random Russian (or two) who happen(s) to be in an American jail.

What could overturn the applecart of a prisoner swap deal is if things turn way South for Russia in Ukraine. If Putin is pissed off enough, he may just say "screw it." Then again big time arms dealers who arm enemies of these United States are highly valuable to the Putins, Xis, Ayatolahs, and Maduros of the world...
 
Well, there's one thing all rightists, leftists, and centrists can agree on:

The superiority of Western Civilization over 3rd World and quasi/almost-3rd World sh!tholes like Russia with regard to due process, fair trials (most of the time), protections against a police state, and individual rights in general.

Nobody should b!tch too much about Western liberal democracy. Open your eyes and look at the alternatives. Our way of life is better--much, much better.
 
Horn6721 said:
Does anyone disagree with mb's point?
That Griner knew the laws and chose to flaunt them?
Why should our Gov't protect someone who chose to ignore laws?
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Because she is an American? Some people are apparently unaware that the State Department tries to intervene to assist Americans no matter whether they are guilty or not. In this case, she voluntarily traveled to a country known to be a lawless police state to make some cash. She did not go to deal drugs, in which case the State Department would just try to make sure she got treated humanely, but to play basketball. She took along some drug for personal use. And the government in question, the State Department believes, probably correctly, that the Russians are using her as a pawn. I don't like her much and really don't like the idea that she was going to take home some money from a police state.

Not much sympathy here but I do applaud the State Department's efforts to protect Americans abroad.

Will she take two knees when she gets sprung and lands in the USA and thank God she is an American, even if we are a godless, racist, murdering hellhole?
 
huisache said:
Because she is an American? Some people are apparently unaware that the State Department tries to intervene to assist Americans no matter whether they are guilty or not. In this case, she voluntarily traveled to a country known to be a lawless police state to make some cash. She did not go to deal drugs, in which case the State Department would just try to make sure she got treated humanely, but to play basketball. She took along some drug for personal use. And the government in question, the State Department believes, probably correctly, that the Russians are using her as a pawn. I don't like her much and really don't like the idea that she was going to take home some money from a police state.

Not much sympathy here but I do applaud the State Department's efforts to protect Americans abroad.

Will she take two knees when she gets sprung and lands in the USA and thank God she is an American, even if we are a godless, racist, murdering hellhole?
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Agree with Hui, let’s wait until she gets home before we trash Griner for being an ungrateful ingrate (unless she reverses).
 
The best thing, perhaps only good thing, about "her" getting arrested is that it seems to be expediting the release of real Americans in some Russian jail.
 
mchammer said:
Agree with Hui, let’s wait until she gets home before we trash Griner for being an ungrateful ingrate (unless she reverses).
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When she gets home, she'll pull a Michelle Obama. She'll say that it's the first time she has been proud of her country.
 
Chop said:
She’s going to a prison “camp.” Not sure what that entails, but it doesn’t sound good. (Picturing a Siberian Gulag in my head).

Better hope she gets that prisoner swap before winter hits.
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It’s even worse than I had thought. They’re actually sending her to a Russian “labor camp”—and that’s not a place where women go to have babies. Now I’m really picturing a Siberian gulag in my head. Better pull some strings to save her or she might not be coming back, ever, unless it’s in a coffin…
 
Here we go. This one pictured first doesn't look too horrendous--making the prisoners work on sewing machines. Other Russian prisoner labor camps have them working (work gangs) on railroads, roads, infrastructure, etc. But some of this sort of prisoner work is in the "far East" (Siberia). Who knows where they'll put her or what they'll have her do.

As Russia Touts Convict Labor To Offset An Exodus Of Migrants, Some Fear 'A Return To The Gulag'

“Our society stigmatizes prisoners, so it’s not concerned whether labor rights will be protected,” Runova said. "There’s a common belief that they’re criminals, junkies, and alcoholics who don’t want to work and sit around living off tax money."

Sounds like no prisoner rights at all.
 
Here's info on Victor Bout--the Russian arms dealer who might be exchanged for Griner and some other Americans. He's not exactly the sort you'd invite to a dinner party.

Viktor Bout: The Russian arms dealer touted for US prisoner swap - CNN

"The Russian businessman, who speaks six languages, was arrested in a sting operation in 2008 led by US drug enforcement agents in Thailand posing as the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, known by the acronym FARC. He was eventually extradited to the US in 2010 after a protracted court proceeding.
"Viktor Bout has been international arms trafficking enemy number one for many years, arming some of the most violent conflicts around the globe," said Preet Bharara, the US attorney in Manhattan when Bout was sentenced in New York in 2012.
"He was finally brought to justice in an American court for agreeing to provide a staggering number of military-grade weapons to an avowed terrorist organization committed to killing Americans."

The trial honed in on Bout's role in supplying weapons to FARC, a guerrilla group that waged an insurgency in Colombia until 2016. The US said the weapons were intended to kill US citizens.
But Bout's history in the arms trade extended much further afield. He has been accused of assembling a fleet of cargo planes to traffic military-grade weapons to conflict zones around the world since the 1990s, fueling bloody conflicts from Liberia to Sierra Leone and Afghanistan. Allegations of trafficking activities in Liberia prompted US authorities to freeze his American assets in 2004 and blocked any US transactions."
 
Here's a movie about him:
The Notorious Mr. Bout (2014) - IMDb


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And Nicolas Cage made a movie about Victor Bout--"Lord of War"




And here's Bout at a get together with friends and family who sing a funny song about his arms dealing, etc. From a documentary.

 
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