Big 12 Tournament

[WCBBNUT]

I disagree.
Oh - and WCBBNut -- looks like Kim Mulkey lives rent free in your head. You might want to get some therapy for that. Just let her go!!! We did!

I like your new coach but you seem to overlook that we will most likely meet up with Mulkey in the Sweet 16 and then yearly when we leave to the SEC. So we can’t move on from Mulkey, but we will move on from Baylor just like she did.

And I will never forgive her for the all-time low of trash-talking student athletes. Pitiful but very Baylor.

 

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[Run Pincher]

I agree with your assessment of Colleen’s post game interview. She was very gracious after a disappointing loss.

I'm going to have to disagree. Throw it in the trash. An off game. I give Texas credit BUT. These are not statements giving Texas the credit and admitting Texas was simply the better team. Now if she had said, "Texas was the better team, I give them all the credit. They deserved it." No BUTS, Then my opinion may be different.

 

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Enjoy!

 

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[Malcom]

Where did you find it? I’ve looked but nothing...

Or youtube Bob

 

[Dennis Grady]

Lots of moans and groans at the Baylor selection show watch party…

 

[flash34]

I don’t know if anybody has already commented on this…..but I JUST have to before I move on. I wonder if Fennelly and fans/players watched the game Sunday. If he thought previous games was physical…….he would have to reassess. The referees did call a few fouls that got Smith and Ebo in a little trouble. However, overall they let the players decide the outcome. There were several hard hedges as well as hips thrown into the defensive player on screens that would have been called in regular season. Make no mistake…….in a championship game the referees don’t want to be the focus and they want the players to decide the outcome by staying in the game. As an example there was one screen that a hip was thrown by a Texas player and the referee felt she had to make a gesture that no foul was there. As a former referee, that display by the referee on plays that there is potential question on is good. It lets coaches/players/fans know she saw it but didn’t see enough to call a foul and play on. Fennelly needs to realize that physical play will ratchet up in the NCAA tournament and they better get ready. This is a real advantage for Texas as they are used to physical play, and may even get to play that way even more.

 

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I can't believe it! LHN is currently airing a replay of the win over Baylor! Have never seen LHN do that for our women in a Big 12 tourney game. Of course, only 1 minute left in the game! Chances are they replay it again.

 

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Lots of moans and groans at the Baylor selection show watch party…

And, who exactly are all those folks dressed alike? Baylor only has 8 players on its roster!

 

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@Austin Bear

 

[HornView]

Just because it was such a source of heartburn for all of us around here earlier in the season I want to point out the Longhorns hit 86% of their Free Throws in the B12 tournament. Clearly some work was put in on FT shooting

 

[DFW_Horn]

Just because it was such a source of heartburn for all of us around here earlier in the season I want to point out the Longhorns hit 86% of their Free Throws in the B12 tournament. Clearly some work was put in on FT shooting

I did this a few days ago…
Free Throws

• Non-conference - 163/255 - 63.9%
• Conference - 270/368 - 73.4%
• Current 11-game winning streak - 157/197 - 79.7%

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

I can't believe it! LHN is currently airing a replay of the win over Baylor! Have never seen LHN do that for our women in a Big 12 tourney game. Of course, only 1 minute left in the game! Chances are they replay it again.

No kidding. If LHN replays it once, they replay it 1,000 times!

 

[Zig72]

I did this a few days ago…
Free Throws

• Non-conference - 163/255 - 63.9%
• Conference - 270/368 - 73.4%
• Current 11-game winning streak - 157/197 - 79.7%

Instinctively, we knew this. Our eyeballs don't lie. But it's great to see it confirmed in numbers. Nice work.

 

[Run Pincher]

@Austin Bear

Yes, but look at all those championships agy has since joining the SEC. Certainly proves they would be right up there with Texas, if not ahead, if they were still in the B12.

Oh wait.

 

[Zig72]

I did this a few days ago…
Free Throws

• Non-conference - 163/255 - 63.9%
• Conference - 270/368 - 73.4%
• Current 11-game winning streak - 157/197 - 79.7%

After thinking about this further, I realized my eyeballs witnessed only two periods in our season concerning free throw shooting....before the win streak and after. In other words, I thought the team free throw performance was very mediocre in the early portion of the season, including conference games.

Then, magically, the turnaround occurred. I don't believe I ever witnessed this night-and-day dynamic with a previous Longhorn team. The numbers:

• First 21 games: 294/448 - 65.6%
• Next 11 games: 157/197 - 79.7%
• Season: 451/645 - 69.9%

I don't see how "practice" could suddenly be the reason. It must be something else, something in the brain of every player. Not sure I could ever explain it.

Was Texas Fight magically born after the 2nd Baylor loss?

 

[DFW_Horn]

After thinking about this further, I realized my eyeballs witnessed only two periods in our season concerning free throw shooting....before the win streak and after. In other words, I thought the team free throw performance was very mediocre in the early portion of the season, including conference games.

Then, magically, the turnaround occurred. I don't believe I ever witnessed this night-and-day dynamic with a previous Longhorn team. The numbers:

• First 21 games: 294/448 - 65.6%
• Next 11 games: 157/197 - 79.7%
• Season: 451/645 - 69.9%

I don't see how "practice" could suddenly be the reason. It must be something else, something in the brain of every player. Not sure I could ever explain it.

Was Texas Fight magically born after the 2nd Baylor loss?

One player that definitely found something that works is Lauren.

• First 20 games (did not include the exhibition): 34/58, 58.6%
• Next 11 games: 36/46, 78.3%

That's very significant as she is 2nd on the team in FT attempts (104) behind Rori (123). Her self confidence and assertiveness on the court over the last 11-12 games means she's also going to the line more (2.9 FT per game to 4.2) just as she's started sinking her FTs. Really drives the point home about how confidence and comfort at the FT line can be just as important, if not more important, than form (unless you've got Delle Donne's stroke).

 

[Zig72]

You're missing a game. UTRGV? We shot only .565 in that blowout.

 

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I am still ticked about Iowa State's Lexi Donarski being voted Big 12 Defensive POY.

For those who watched the game against them on Saturday, who of our players did she guard? I'm assuming mainly Joanne Allen-Taylor and Matharu. Jo finished with 13 points, while Matharu scored 7 points. So, if those were the two, Donarski allowed 20 points scored. When I re-watched the vid highlights posted earlier in this thread, Donarski just sits around on the edge of the very soft zone and rarely even gets close to her player (Matharu); just can't believe that.

As for Donarski's defensive stats, zero rebounds and zero blocks; 2 steals.

 

[DFW_Horn]

I am still ticked about Iowa State's Lexi Donarski being voted Big 12 Defensive POY.

For those who watched the game against them on Saturday, who of our players did she guard? I'm assuming mainly Joanne Allen-Taylor and Matharu. Jo finished with 13 points, while Matharu scored 7 points. So, if those were the two, Donarski allowed 20 points scored. When I re-watched the vid highlights posted earlier in this thread, Donarski just sits around on the edge of the very soft zone and rarely even gets close to her player (Matharu); just can't believe that.

As for Donarski's defensive stats, zero rebounds and zero blocks; 2 steals.

That was a much bigger head scratcher for me than the Rori 2nd team result. Ayoka Lee, Nalyssa Smith, Rori or a few others would've made more sense.

 

[loyallonghorn]

Here is the Iowa State press conference. At around the 9:00 minute mark there is a discussion about “freedom of movement”. Fennelly says freedom of movement no longer exists in women’s basketball. What does this mean? I don’t have much knowledge of “X’s & O’s” so I don’t understand this comment. Whatever it is, I don’t think he is a fan of how certain aspects of the games are officiated.

I'm just catching up after going to Kansas City.

Freedom of movement, ha! I guess he means Rori's defense is so quick good Emily Ryan couldn't move anywhere on the court.

 

[loyallonghorn]

Great observation! I was turned to my right watching Rori and when I turned to the left I couldn’t believe how far on the court the whole team had gotten. And for just a tiny split second I had a scary thought that they had left the bench too quick!

It was wild and the BU fans were a little shell shocked at that moment. Texas did a good job of keeping their fans out of the game for the most part which was fun to watch.

sidenote: I spoke of a KSU fan that sat just down and across the aisle from me on Friday night that was beside himself the whole game and I thought he might have a heart attack. I moved to a few seats over for the BU game and guess who ended up in my very seat? I pointed out the irony to my friend with me. His wife clapped for Texas quite a bit and I could tell they were actually hoping Texas would beat Baylor. They clearly enjoyed watching the Texas defense as they made several plays right in front of us that I saw them marveling at. So don’t tell Fennelly or Mittie that because they said it’s no fun for the fans watching a game like Texas plays,

While at the tournament, I spoke to the Joens family after Texas had just defeated their Cyclones. Brian Joens, Ashley's and Aubrey's father, was complimentary. He also gave my 11 y.o. daughter some basketball advice, encouraging her to practice ball handling every day. As we departed, he wished our Longhorns the best and remarked, "anyone but Baylor winning is a good thing" since Baylor has dominated the conference for so long.

 

[loyallonghorn]

I've stumbled across a couple of really snarky posts from her specifically about Texas - I guess she has the time to tweet when other players are starting.

I have not seen Bickle's tweet, but I appreciate her lunch pale/workman like effort on the court. What Bickle does for Baylor is akin to what Audrey Warren means to the Longhorns. Just blue collar hustle players.

 

[brnkj]

I have not seen Bickle's tweet, but I appreciate her lunch pale/workman like effort on the court. What Bickle does for Baylor is akin to what Audrey Warren means to the Longhorns. Just blue collar hustle players.

Actually I have always had an appreciation for her efforts on the court as well, as she plays an important role for Baylor IMO. But that mouth is one of the main ones that needed to be shut.

Be careful about laughing first because you might not be the one laughing last...

 

[loyallonghorn]

I disagree.
1. I love basketball -- men's and women's. As a Bear, I'm a fan of Baylor first, not just of any single coach.
2. I really like Coach Vic Schafer's coaching and have been a fan for many years. I ran into him at a car dealership here in Austin and told him so.
3. Texas played with CVS's intensity and defense and deserved to win. Kudos.
4. Kim Mulkey CHOSE to leave Baylor. The fans will not. We're very thankful for the character, intellect, class and approachability of Nikki Collen. She might dip a year or two, but in Baylor fashion, will rise to the top. Good grief -- look at football -- Baylor bounces back! haha
5. I really hope the Longhorns meet LSU in the Sweet 16. I'm counting on the Longhorn defense and intensity and will be rooting for the conference, the state of Texas and yes - the Longhorns - in that game.
6. One more reminder -- Baylor is the first Big12 school ever to win the conference championship in one year in FB, WBB, and MBB. Sic'Em.

Congrats to the Longhorns on a well-deserved win. They earned it on the floor!

Oh - and WCBBNut -- looks like Kim Mulkey lives rent free in your head. You might want to get some therapy for that. Just let her go!!! We did!

Thank you Austin Bear.

I'm probably in the minority here. I love Kim Mulkey and what she's meant and brought to Baylor. Prior to Mulkey, Baylor women's basketball was perennially at the bottom of the league (except in the mid-1970's). But Kim turned that program around and set the standard in the Big 12 for everyone to chase.

I subscribe to the tide lifting all the boats up and Baylor under Kim has done that for the Big 12. And finally Texas under Chris Del Conte made the bold move to chase after and spend the money on Vic Schaefer to compete against Baylor.

Ever since hearing Nicki Collen's introductory conference, I have loved her. It's a difficult position she finds herself following a legend. I've also been able to watch the Baylor basketball coaches streaming show on ESPN+ and just wow, she's separated from her family as they have remained in Atlanta while she is in Waco. What a tough situation she finds herself in.

I wish Baylor and Coach Collen the best.

 

[loyallonghorn]

I like your new coach but you seem to overlook that we will most likely meet up with Mulkey in the Sweet 16 and then yearly when we leave to the SEC. So we can’t move on from Mulkey, but we will move on from Baylor just like she did.

And I will never forgive her for the all-time low of trash-talking student athletes. Pitiful but very Baylor.

WCBBNUT, was there ever any information on what Kim Mulkey had said to Empress Davenport?

I recall Baylor was leading by about 20 pts, and she subbed in her bench players who played minimal minutes. But Aston kept her starters in a full-court press and cut the lead to something like 10 points. Mulkey was upset and responded by re-inserting her starters to finish the game.