Beard Fired

[bystander]

I wish we all knew the whole, true story. Unfortunately we don't so we grasp at different facts based on our own personal experiences. I still want to hear the audio that Beard claims will exonerate him. He said that but we haven't heard it to this point. Will we ever? What I say next comes more from discussions I have with my wife. Part of her job is understanding abusive relationships and how they affect others. It's been documented that there are people that are in abusive relationships that keep repeating the cycle. They call the police to get abusive behavior stopped in the moment but then recant because they don't want to lose that relationship. There are PTSD studies on this issue. There were scratches and a bite mark seen by the police. It's pretty easy to determine who made the bite. Unfortunately we probably won't know all the facts. There is actually Texas Public Law that supports this decision according to my wife. Having said all of that, my support is for the University. While I want to win in every sport we compete in, in MY OPINION this is a situation where it is time to move on from Beard. CDC can find another great coach likes he's done times before.

I feel the audio was grasping at straws. It may prove she provoked him by breaking the glasses. But his response is the problem. You can't do that. If someone gropes your wife and then leaves you can't go and kick his a** even if anyone would understand why you did it. If the groper has stopped harassing her then all you can do is call the police. There was a case about this and I remember how the police described the situation just like that. So it's the same with Beard. He should have left the house and waited for things to cool off. As I said before, I've been in that very situation and that's what I did. If he did in fact attack her, then her provocation (evidenced by the recording) wouldn't matter so much.

 

[horninchicago]

Gotta love HF.

We would be ridiculing and excoriating any and every other fan base that was crying about its coach being most likely sacked in a case like this and clutching and grasping for any reason to keep him.

Yet, here we are...

 

[bystander]

Gotta love HF.

We would be ridiculing and excoriating any and every other fan base that was crying about its coach being most likely sacked in a case like this and clutching and grasping for any reason to keep him.

Yet, here we are...

Probably. But I'm not crying. As I said, my wife and I kind of think it's justified after reading the police report.

 

[horninchicago]

Probably. But I'm not crying. As I said, my wife and I kind of think it's justified after reading the police report.

Ha, crying is just hyperbole, of course, but you know what I mean.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

I have not followed this, but are some people suggesting that Beard will stay in this relationship? If so, I don’t think this will end well. Relationships where one party provokes conflict and another party responds with violence typically end badly. And with the added destruction of a very high profile career with commensurate significant loss of income it only creates a bigger source of conflict. If the accusations are unfounded, it only gets worse.
Happiness needs to be this woman in his rear view mirror.

With the money he has already made, happiness for Beard could be retiring as an ExPat to Costa Rica or Portugal, and living a quiet life of fishing and enjoying his remaining time. Just one among many possibilities.

 

[BLucky]

Gotta love HF.

We would be ridiculing and excoriating any and every other fan base that was crying about its coach being most likely sacked in a case like this and clutching and grasping for any reason to keep him.

Yet, here we are...

I'm not.

 

[bystander]

Ha, crying is just hyperbole, of course, but you know what I mean.

I know. Keyboard crying! I'm fine. It's a damn shame. Wonder how things were around the dinner table last night for Chris and the fiance. Somebody or both blew this one big-time. It's one of the all-time F'ups in sports history.

 

[horninchicago]

I'm not.

Several people seem to be. You did say it was time to move on from beard.

 

[BLucky]

Several people seem to be. You did say it was time to move on from beard.

AND...I don't care about any other fanbase...

 

[horninchicago]

AND...I don't care about any other fanbase...

That is a rarity around here.

 

[Chinstrap]

With the money he has already made, happiness for Beard could be retiring as an ExPat to Costa Rica or Portugal, and living a quiet life of fishing and enjoying his remaining time. Just one among many possibilities.

Without a forwarding address for all, including the woman.

 

[mchammer]

Mchammer-I am not disputing you but do you know that for a fact ,or is it just your opinion?

A source told CBS Sports that Del Conte was not the one who ultimately decided to fire Beard, that this decision came from others in power at the university.

Texas fires coach Chris Beard for cause following arrest on felony charge of assaulting fiancée

 

[mchammer]

I know. Keyboard crying! I'm fine. It's a damn shame. Wonder how things were around the dinner table last night for Chris and the fiance. Somebody or both blew this one big-time. It's one of the all-time F'ups in sports history.

Protection order in place till Feb 10 or so. The fiancé is in his house.

 

[mchammer]

Wife slaps husband in drunken state. Husband who is drunk lightly slaps wife in face in response.

 

[mchammer]

I wish we all knew the whole, true story. Unfortunately we don't so we grasp at different facts based on our own personal experiences. I still want to hear the audio that Beard claims will exonerate him. He said that but we haven't heard it to this point. Will we ever? What I say next comes more from discussions I have with my wife. Part of her job is understanding abusive relationships and how they affect others. It's been documented that there are people that are in abusive relationships that keep repeating the cycle. They call the police to get abusive behavior stopped in the moment but then recant because they don't want to lose that relationship. There are PTSD studies on this issue. There were scratches and a bite mark seen by the police. It's pretty easy to determine who made the bite. Unfortunately we probably won't know all the facts. There is actually Texas Public Law that supports this decision according to my wife. Having said all of that, my support is for the University. While I want to win in every sport we compete in, in MY OPINION this is a situation where it is time to move on from Beard. CDC can find another great coach likes he's done times before.

My angle is contractual. Is there a clause that says that the university can fire Beard without compensation if university officials are too weak to stand up to the Twitter mob? UT can fire Beard at any time. The question is what is the financial obligation?

 

[bystander]

Protection order in place till Feb 10 or so. The fiancé is in his house.

That's a classic toxic relationship. Somebody has to come to their senses and move on.

 

[mchammer]

That's a classic toxic relationship. Somebody has to come to their senses and move on.

How long have they lived together? Are they common law married?

 

[horninchicago]

How long have they lived together? Are they common law married?

"War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one."

 

[bystander]

How long have they lived together? Are they common law married?

She said six years. Maybe engaged for three. My comment about a toxic relationship is just an observation. It has nothing to do with Beard's firing. That has to do with his actions.

 

[moondog_LFZ]

My angle is contractual. Is there a clause that says that the university can fire Beard without compensation if university officials are too weak to stand up to the Twitter mob? UT can fire Beard at any time. The question is what is the financial obligation?

There is a clause in his contract stating he can be fired for cause without pay. One of those causes is being arrested for a felony.
And that just happened.

 

[Creek]

Glad this is just basketball. I quit watching it.
Sorry Beard got into this mess. And now my rant on basketball in general…
Open Rant:
Basketball is a flawed sport. The rules are a bust. The last 3 minutes is the only part that seems to matter…and that takes 20 boring minutes to play with timeouts and fouls. The only sport that to get a team that is behind, back in the game, they have to commit penalties.
In football that would be like, if your team has a lead but the other team commits a personal foul, the guy that gets fouled has to kick a 30 yard field goal. If he misses it, the other team gets the ball back.
They could help the game be more logical and enjoyable by a rule— if you intentionally foul in the last 2 minutes—the fouled guy gets 5 free throws.
Close Rant

 

[horninchicago]

Glad this is just basketball. I quit watching it.
Sorry Beard got into this mess. And now my rant on basketball in general…
Open Rant:
Basketball is a flawed sport. The rules are a bust. The last 3 minutes is the only part that seems to matter…and that takes 20 boring minutes to play with timeouts and fouls. The only sport that to get a team that is behind, back in the game, they have to commit penalties.
In football that would be like, if your team has a lead but the other team commits a personal foul, the guy that gets fouled has to kick a 30 yard field goal. If he misses it, the other team gets the ball back.
They could help the game be more logical and enjoyable by a rule— if you intentionally foul in the last 2 minutes—the fouled guy gets 5 free throws.
Close Rant

Good points.

Also, in that last 2-3 minutes, reduce the shot clock to 15 seconds so the team with the lead doesn't just milk it. That's boring as well.

 

[2003TexasGrad]

Institute an offsides rule for entirety of the game and have a nonstop running clock!

 

[horninchicago]

Institute an offsides rule for entirety of the game and have a nonstop running clock!

Yeah, really, I won't watch, anyway. They can come up with anything.

 

[2003TexasGrad]

Yeah, really, I won't watch, anyway. They can come up with anything.

Nude cheerleaders and pom?

 

[horninchicago]

Nude cheerleaders and pom?

Go on...

 

[SabreHorn]

HIC,

Puleeeze! I have been around longer than almost anyone on HF; don't know how much longer I'll be around, but however long it is, it will not be long enough to erase the thought of PomPom nude.

 

[NRHorn]

Oddly enough, I have been in this situation.
After startling my (then) fiancé by snatching my keys out of her hand so I could get the hell out of there she slapped me on the shoulder and then called 911 and said I hit her.
Cops came. I explained what happened. She concurred and they stood by while I loaded my truck and left.
However, unlike the Beard case, there were no physical marks on the woman.
Beards girlfriend showed them scrapes and bruises.
I don't profess to believe either one of them.
But I can see her changing her story after realizing she just derailed the gravy train.

Fair enough.

 

[NRHorn]

Ha, crying is just hyperbole, of course, but you know what I mean.

For the last time, I’m going to tell you all that I did not graduate college and I encourage you all to stop using words that I need to google

 

[Dionysus]

Glad this is just basketball. I quit watching it.
Sorry Beard got into this mess. And now my rant on basketball in general…
Open Rant:
Basketball is a flawed sport. The rules are a bust. The last 3 minutes is the only part that seems to matter…and that takes 20 boring minutes to play with timeouts and fouls. The only sport that to get a team that is behind, back in the game, they have to commit penalties.
In football that would be like, if your team has a lead but the other team commits a personal foul, the guy that gets fouled has to kick a 30 yard field goal. If he misses it, the other team gets the ball back.
They could help the game be more logical and enjoyable by a rule— if you intentionally foul in the last 2 minutes—the fouled guy gets 5 free throws.
Close Rant

You should rant more, that was an interesting rant