Baylor.... here we go again

Some people have been talking about this coverup or 30+ years. It is why I have said hundreds of times that the rug Baylor BOR & administration keeps sweeping things under is approaching being the highest point in Texas.

In case anyone has for forgotten, I am a Baptist and attend weekly. I have talked to multiple BOR members, as well as prominent pastors, but the Baptist way remains, "Nothing is wrong, it just isn't as right as we'd like for it to be".

Baylor needs Daniel Vestal as Chancellor, Randall O'Brien as President, Joel Gregory as Provost. When that was a possibility, the BOR hired Robert Sloan as president; a man I trust less than Greg Fenves.
 
SabreHorn said:
Some people have been talking about this coverup or 30+ years. It is why I have said hundreds of times that the rug Baylor BOR & administration keeps sweeping things under is approaching being the highest point in Texas.

In case anyone has for forgotten, I am a Baptist and attend weekly. I have talked to multiple BOR members, as well as prominent pastors, but the Baptist way remains, "Nothing is wrong, it just isn't as right as we'd like for it to be".

Baylor needs Daniel Vestal as Chancellor, Randall O'Brien as President, Joel Gregory as Provost. When that was a possibility, the BOR hired Robert Sloan as president; a man I trust less than Greg Fenves.
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OUCH
 
SabreHorn said:
Some people have been talking about this coverup or 30+ years. It is why I have said hundreds of times that the rug Baylor BOR & administration keeps sweeping things under is approaching being the highest point in Texas.

In case anyone has for forgotten, I am a Baptist and attend weekly. I have talked to multiple BOR members, as well as prominent pastors, but the Baptist way remains, "Nothing is wrong, it just isn't as right as we'd like for it to be".

Baylor needs Daniel Vestal as Chancellor, Randall O'Brien as President, Joel Gregory as Provost. When that was a possibility, the BOR hired Robert Sloan as president; a man I trust less than Greg Fenves.
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I have 3 (yes, three) siblings who went to that so-called institution, and two of them even married 2 other bears--one of them is even a minister. Yes, they ALL drink that Koolaid, think Briles firing is part of a conspiracy, nothing is wrong, happens at every school, etc...I, too, am a Baptist and am embarassed at what that place has become. We all thought the Dave Bliss fiasco was the worst, but wait...
 
87,

I have a good friend that has served several terms on their BOR. Saw him one day and he spent 15 minutes telling me what an honest, ethical person Ken Starr is and how "blessed" Baylor was to have him. I looked at him and said, "Preacher, I hope you don't really believe that ****". He was stunned, not by my language, but by the fact that there was someone that didn't think Ken Starr hung the moon
 
Horn87 said:
the guidance counselor at my son's high school told the kids NOT to go to bailer!!
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Wow. That's kind of sad, really. I had a great uncle (with an ethical moral compass, I should add) that taught English there back in the day. It's definitely time to turn over the administration.
 
Really? 2016 - REALLY? Missed it by nearly a full decade!

Where do these so called know-it-alls get there information?

I am very well personally acquainted with the person who personally delivered the message not just from The University, but the Big XII to certain members of the BOR.
 
Badass said:
Wow ... wonder how many votes were needed ... were had ....
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Who would oppose it? And why?
Replacement - UH?

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"The lawsuit alleged that a former volleyball player was gang raped by four football players in 2012 after being drugged. Gang rape was allegedly so common on the football team that it was used as a bonding experience by players."​
 
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Statalyzer said:
Well I presume the reasons were a bit different back then.
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Why?

25 years ago was steroids and coke. 10-12 years ago was all the above

As I said, the message was delivered, partially ignored, but eventually Robert Sloan was canned. That was only sweeping the top of the rug that everything was swept under, as they replaced Sloan with the driver of the Waste Management truck but didn't give him the keys to the truck or check to see that he didn't have a drivers license.

Problems at Baylor run deep, and nothing has been done to remove the "enablers".
 
Statalyzer said:
Because the current ongoing scandal wasn't happening in 2006.
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Define "ongoing scandal". Were the players currently involved or accused in the media there 10-12 years ago? NO! Were similar activities being covered up back then? Oh, hell yes!

A school that covers up the "murder" of a football player by paying off the family, was not above covering up sexual assaults a decade ago, just like they covered up the steroid scandal and drug abuse.

Questions are:

Who definitely knew?
Who chose not to know?
Who buried their head in the sand?
Who participated in the cover up?
Why are so many of those people still affiliated and/or on Baylor's payroll.

I do find some irony in the fact that Baylor had a good man on their BOR when they hired his brother as controller. One had to resign because of a potential conflict of interest. This while all the other crap is going on.
 
SabreHorn said:
Define "ongoing scandal". Were the players currently involved or accused in the media there 10-12 years ago? NO! Were similar activities being covered up back then? Oh, hell yes!

A school that covers up the "murder" of a football player by paying off the family, was not above covering up sexual assaults a decade ago, just like they covered up the steroid scandal and drug abuse.

Questions are:

Who definitely knew?
Who chose not to know?
Who buried their head in the sand?
Who participated in the cover up?
Why are so many of those people still affiliated and/or on Baylor's payroll.

I do find some irony in the fact that Baylor had a good man on their BOR when they hired his brother as controller. One had to resign because of a potential conflict of interest. This while all the other crap is going on.
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And I would be remiss if I didn't at least mention Ken Starr.

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Joe Fan said:
Who would oppose it? And why?
Replacement - UH?

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"The lawsuit alleged that a former volleyball player was gang raped by four football players in 2012 after being drugged. Gang rape was allegedly so common on the football team that it was used as a bonding experience by players."​
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Interesting question Joe Fan. My guess would be that Texas Tech might align with Baylor, maybe Iowa State.

My reasoning would be that instability might threaten the survivablility of the conference as a whole. Change is an uncertainty that some may not like since they are making good money now.

But my reasoning is a SWAG
 
Badass said:
Interesting question Joe Fan. My guess would be that Texas Tech might align with Baylor, maybe Iowa State.

My reasoning would be that instability might threaten the survivablility of the conference as a whole. Change is an uncertainty that some may not like since they are making good money now.

But my reasoning is a SWAG
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You are probably on to something BA. Baylor, Tech and IState are the 4 that would have the biggest issues finding a new home in another Power 5 conference.
 
Are y'all underestimating the power of almost senator Craig James?

If he could help Tech out of this dilemma, he might finally have his first friend.

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They finally got it through the legislature, probably while the Aggies were hungover from celebrating Jimbo's hiring.

Question is, who will be dean and who will teach since 95%+ of the vets are from A&M or LSU. Wanna really piss off the Aggies, they should hire the head of the bio-sciences department (a graduate of Iowa State). He's a really good guy and would make a great first dean if he hasn't retired.

As a side note, I have always found it interesting that the head of the biosciences dept cut a deal with Tech to use their physical therapy program in Amarillo for Aggie graduates wanting to do PT.
 
Joe Fan said:
Who would oppose it? And why?
Replacement - UH?

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"The lawsuit alleged that a former volleyball player was gang raped by four football players in 2012 after being drugged. Gang rape was allegedly so common on the football team that it was used as a bonding experience by players."​
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9 teams better than ten in this situation. Through them out.
 
Nice article in today's Star-Telegram that is a lengthy interview with Phil Bennett. While he goes all CYA for him, Briles, and the coaches, he throws the Baylor administration under the bus and destroys the law firm investigators.

I have never liked Phil Bennett, not at K-State nor Pitt nor A&M nor Baylor. This interview is all about "not me or my friends" and "**** on the hacks at Baylor & their BOR". Knowing some of the people involved, Bennett comes off almost believable about much of the stuff.

Sorry, I can't link it
 
SabreHorn said:
Nice article in today's Star-Telegram that is a lengthy interview with Phil Bennett. While he goes all CYA for him, Briles, and the coaches, he throws the Baylor administration under the bus and destroys the law firm investigators.

I have never liked Phil Bennett, not at K-State nor Pitt nor A&M nor Baylor. This interview is all about "not me or my friends" and "**** on the hacks at Baylor & their BOR". Knowing some of the people involved, Bennett comes off almost believable about much of the stuff.

Sorry, I can't link it
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Don't forget, in addition to KSU, SMU, Baylor and Pitt, he was on John Blake's staff at OU. That's a resume that doesn't wash off no matter how hard you scrub.

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Omg, if any other source can confirm this, they should be gone. Gimme UH (full disclosure, I went to UH for my post grad degree)
 
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