Antifa

[Run Pincher]

I did some cyphering. In person voter fraud is 31/1,000,000,000
or 0.000000031 - that's from 2000-2014. From 2008-2018 there were 429 murders linked to domestic violent extremists (the ones the DHS warned us about) out of 150,000 murders (that's approximate as we're dealing with apple/orange data) but it's within 20,000). That's 0.00286. I'm no statistician but the one has 5 more decimal points. Seems like one is a bigger problem than the other. Maybe even significantly bigger.

If anyone wants to see the impact of domestic extremism stop at the Murrah Memorial in OKC. It's a stop that everyone should make if they have a few hours passing through. The "Jesus Wept" statue is my favorite. So moving.

What is the % for murders committed by illegal immigrants?

 

[Mr. Deez]

I did some cyphering. In person voter fraud is 31/1,000,000,000
or 0.000000031 - that's from 2000-2014. From 2008-2018 there were 429 murders linked to domestic violent extremists (the ones the DHS warned us about) out of 150,000 murders (that's approximate as we're dealing with apple/orange data) but it's within 20,000). That's 0.00286. I'm no statistician but the one has 5 more decimal points. Seems like one is a bigger problem than the other. Maybe even significantly bigger.

If anyone wants to see the impact of domestic extremism stop at the Murrah Memorial in OKC. It's a stop that everyone should make if they have a few hours passing through. The "Jesus Wept" statue is my favorite. So moving.

You do understand that using your own numbers, we're talking about less than 1/3 of 1 percent of all murders, right? Call me crazy, and I know math is hard, but I think the approximately 99.997 percent that aren't caused by domestic violent extremists warrant more attention than the .00286 that are.

 

[horninchicago]

You do understand that using your own numbers, we're talking about less than 1/3 of 1 percent of all murders, right? Call me crazy, and I know math is hard, but I think the approximately 99.997 percent that aren't caused by domestic violent extremists warrant more attention than the .00286 that are.

What do you expect? Sooners base their entire existence on and laud and celebrate the theft of land.

 

[Mr. Deez]

 

[horninchicago]

If only Oklahoma was that nice.

 

[mchammer]

That ridge is visible from Hanalei Bay, Kauai.

 

[mchammer]

Here is the photo I took from the beach. I think the photo above was taken at a higher elevation, such as the ridge on the opposite of the bay.

 

[OUBubba]

A. That is not an image from Oklahoma.
B. 31 are the documented cases of in person voter fraud. Apparently you guys think that’s a big problem.
C. Tell the relatives of 168 people in okc that those aren’t important.

 

[Horn6721]

Bubba??
So you think all fraud was caught ?

 

[LongestHorn]

A. That is not an image from Oklahoma.
B. 31 are the documented cases of in person voter fraud. Apparently you guys think that’s a big problem.
C. Tell the relatives of 168 people in okc that those aren’t important.

They told you already. More Americans are killed in Chicago than by terrorist. Why do you hate logic?

 

[iatrogenic]

A. That is not an image from Oklahoma.
B. 31 are the documented cases of in person voter fraud. Apparently you guys think that’s a big problem.
C. Tell the relatives of 168 people in okc that those aren’t important.

Well Goob, what do you propose we do with the white nationalists?

 

[OUBubba]

Bubba??
So you think all fraud was caught ?

So it's somewhere between 31 and 3,000,000? In person voting fraud is difficult. Absentee voting? Sure. But, in person "fraud" is like getting struck by lightening.

 

[OUBubba]

Well Goob, what do you propose we do with the white nationalists?

Maybe stop having the mother scratching president of the United States of MOTHER SCRATCHING AMERICA giving them cover. Let's start there. They think he's one of them. Fix that.

 

[iatrogenic]

Maybe stop having the mother scratching president of the United States of MOTHER SCRATCHING AMERICA giving them cover. Let's start there. They think he's one of them. Fix that.

Would you somehow feel better if Trump condemned all neo-nazis and white nationalists at the event?

 

[theiioftx]

Bubba started this thread in defense of Antifa with his socialist brothers defending him. What else do we need to know about them?

 

[Mr. Deez]

A. That is not an image from Oklahoma.
B. 31 are the documented cases of in person voter fraud. Apparently you guys think that’s a big problem.
C. Tell the relatives of 168 people in okc that those aren’t important.

I'm just not sure I follow the logic. What does white nationalism have to do with voter fraud? You're comparing apples to freedom pouches.

 

[horninchicago]

I'm just not sure I follow the logic. What does white nationalism have to do with voter fraud? You're comparing apples to freedom pouches.

I'm sure I've said it before. Barry Switzer's picture on a Longhorns message board automatically discredits someone.

 

[UTChE96]

Bubba??
So you think all fraud was caught ?

He's a Land Thief with an avatar of Barry Switzer. So by definition, it's only cheating if you get caught.

 

[Monahorns]

Trump moving the US embassy to Jerusalem was super anti-semitic you guys.

 

[OUBubba]

I'm just not sure I follow the logic. What does white nationalism have to do with voter fraud? You're comparing apples to freedom pouches.

The right thinks voter fraud requires emergency level interdiction yet threats from home grown terrorists should be ignored. Both are statistically insignificant. One deals with actual LIVES and it is significantly less statistically insignificant than the other. That's all I'm pointing out.

Also, the White House told DHS to not focus on non Jihadi terrorism. Stable genius, Yo!. Trump Stifled Efforts To Combat White Supremacy While Fueling It | Rantt

 

[Mr. Deez]

The right thinks voter fraud requires emergency level interdiction yet threats from home grown terrorists should be ignored. Both are statistically insignificant. One deals with actual LIVES and it is significantly less statistically insignificant than the other. That's all I'm pointing out.

In other words, you're approaching the issue in bad faith and bringing up a false comparison to change the subject. And most on the Right aren't calling for emergency interdiction - just a simple ID like we would in any number of non-emergency situations.

Also, the White House told DHS to not focus on non Jihadi terrorism. Stable genius, Yo!. Trump Stifled Efforts To Combat White Supremacy While Fueling It | Rantt

Maybe he looked at the numbers.

 

[OUBubba]

In other words, you're approaching the issue in bad faith and bringing up a false comparison to change the subject. And most on the Right aren't calling for emergency interdiction - just a simple ID like we would in any number of non-emergency situations.



Maybe he looked at the numbers.

Have you compared "jihadi" terrorist numbers to white nationalist?

 

[Mr. Deez]

Have you compared "jihadi" terrorist numbers to white nationalist?

Yes. It's called percentages. Again, I know math is hard.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

Do you think the lower incidents of jihadi terrorism on American soil are due to jihadis not caring to attack us here? Or do you think it might, just might, be related to our ability to thwart most of those plans before they can be executed?

 

[Mr. Deez]

Do you think the lower incidents of jihadi terrorism on American soil are due to jihadis not caring to attack us here? Or do you think it might, just might, be related to our ability to thwart most of those plans before they can be executed?

And to get the preferred outcome, we have to exclude things like 9/11. It's a horse **** narrative that's only enabled with deceptive and out of context statistics.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

I was going to bring that up too - given the extreme reluctance of our officials to call domestic Islamist violence what it is, the numbers are wildly under reported.

 

[OUBubba]

I was going to bring that up too - given the extreme reluctance of our officials to call domestic Islamist violence what it is, the numbers are wildly under reported.

Kind of like how they didn't want to call the Las Vegas shooter a terrorist?

 

[Mr. Deez]

Kind of like how they didn't want to call the Las Vegas shooter a terrorist?

Maybe that's because he wasn't. Of course, that doesn't make him any less of a bad guy, but facts and reality do matter.

 

[Statalyzer]

Do you think the lower incidents of jihadi terrorism on American soil are due to jihadis not caring to attack us here? Or do you think it might, just might, be related to our ability to thwart most of those plans before they can be executed?

I honest don't know how well we are or aren't thwarting potential plans.

Maybe that's because he wasn't. Of course, that doesn't make him any less of a bad guy,

There are lot of cases like that, where just trying to apply the correct nomenclature to something results in most people thinking you are making a good/bad statement about it. E.g. if you opine that you don't consider subjectively-judged solo competitions "sports", people will decide that you just said that they require no skill, and cannot be dissuaded from thinking you said that.

 

[OUBubba]

Maybe that's because he wasn't. Of course, that doesn't make him any less of a bad guy, but facts and reality do matter.

How is a guy firing into a crowd killing more than 50 NOT a terrorist? To me, his motives are unrelated to his outcome. Much like "hate" crime. Crime is crime, regardless of the why.