Antifa

There's a clip going around the internet of most of the Democratic Presidential candidates being asked at the Iowa State Fair if they'd condemn the Antifa movement. Only Gabbard and Yang definitely said yes
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Not surprising it was those two and not surprising it was nobody else.

Clean, I think it is okay to answer that they are against all violence.
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Sure, but what about Antifa in general, not just violence? In otherwords, do they acknowledge that Antifa is based on, welcomes, and instigates violence, rather than claiming it's a good movement that just can't control every single one of its bad apples.
 
Has the antifa movement killed anyone?

Weren't the members of the greatest generation the original antifascists?
 
OUBubba said:
Has the antifa movement killed anyone?

Weren't the members of the greatest generation the original antifascists?
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They have caused a lot of brain damage with kicks and hits to the head.
 
LongestHorn said:
Difficult to say. How many white nationalists had brain damage before they were struck?
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Says you. within a day or 2 of Joe Biden saying MLK and RFK were assassinated during "the 70s"... speaking of brain damage, the current frontrunner of your party has a terminal case
 
LongestHorn said:
Difficult to say. How many white nationalists had brain damage before they were struck?
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From your incoherent ramblings on racism I'm pretty certain you don't even know what a white nationalist is. Was the gay Asian man beaten up a white nationalist?
 
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Garmel said:
You need to to do more than scour MSM sources, Bubba. Read the full transcript.
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I've said since that day, fine people don't even go there after they see the tiki torch parade the night before and hear the chants Jews Will Not Replace Us or Blood and Soil. Fine people loaded up the Grand Caravan and headed back to Savannah, GA to update their ancestry.com profile. The initial protest was a white nationalist organized thing and those people were from all over the region. Those protesting the march were mostly local folks. I mean, college towns are lousy with libs. So, the transcript means little to me. I'm not so sure there were any fine people there protesting the removal of the monuments. If they were they were completely ignorant of current events.
 
The DHS warned us about white nationalism about a decade ago. They were correct and they were criticized mightily from the right.

U.S. Law Enforcement Failed to See the Threat of White Nationalism. Now They Don’t Know How to Stop It.

In April 2009, the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Intelligence and Analysis issued a report warning of a rise in “right-wing extremism.” The department is the country’s largest law-enforcement body, created after Sept. 11 to prevent and respond to various threats, most specifically those connected to terrorism. While most of its counterterrorism focus has been on preventing Islamist terrorist attacks, the department is also supposed to examine domestic threats, like those coming from violent white supremacists, antigovernment militants and single-issue hate groups, like radical anti-abortion activists.

The author of the report was a senior intelligence analyst named Daryl Johnson, who ran a small Homeland Security domestic-terrorism unit. Two years earlier, in January 2007, Johnson was sitting in his bland second-floor office when he received a call from a contact at the Capitol Police. A first-term Illinois senator named Barack Obama was planning to announce that he was running for president. “Curious if you’ve heard any threatening chatter,” the officer said.

This was the first time Johnson had heard of Obama, and he didn’t know about any threats, but that didn’t mean there wouldn’t be any. Though white-extremist groups had been fairly quiet in the years since Sept. 11, Johnson saw this as a temporary lull. These people never truly went away, he thought; they just needed the right motivation to energize them.

“What do you think’s going to happen when the Ku Klux Klan and the neo-Nazis and other white supremacists get wind of this?” the officer asked.

Johnson didn’t skip a beat: “I think it’s going to be the perfect recruiting and radicalization tool for white supremacy.”
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I'm not so sure there were any fine people there protesting the removal of the monuments.
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As long as you're on the "anyone who disagrees with my position on the monuments is evil" wagon, what's the point of us even talking about it?
 
OUBubba said:
I'm not so sure there were any fine people there protesting the removal of the monuments. If they were they were completely ignorant of current events.
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A friend of mine had some relatives there that were protesting the monument removal and I can assure you they weren't nazis. There were many people there that weren't part of the two antagonists that were clashing. The girl who was killed there was a leftist but wasn't part of antifa.
 
Statalyzer said:
As long as you're on the "anyone who disagrees with my position on the monuments is evil" wagon, what's the point of us even talking about it?
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Just like how Husker called anyone who wants the wall a racist. These people possess a very limited perspective that doesn't extend beyond liberal groupthink.
 
Garmel said:
A friend of mine had some relatives there that were protesting the monument removal and I can assure you they weren't nazis. There were many people there that weren't part of the two antagonists that were clashing. The girl who was killed there was a leftist but wasn't part of antifa.
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And your friends relatives were there that weekend? Before, during, or after the tiki march?
 
OUBubba said:
The DHS warned us about white nationalism about a decade ago. They were correct and they were criticized mightily from the right.

U.S. Law Enforcement Failed to See the Threat of White Nationalism. Now They Don’t Know How to Stop It.
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From 2009-2017 the homicides attributed to white Nationalists is approximately equal to the number of homicides committed only in Chicago each year. Relatively speaking the problem is small, and I have seen some highly questionable stats attributable to white nationalists. All homicides are terrible but don’t go overboard with your narrative.
 
4th_floor said:
The original "antifascists were the Soviets. The commies always blamed fascists for anything which went wrong in the USSR, which was everything.
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See the Antifaschistischer Schutzwall (the Antifascist Protection Wall) or as the non-idiots called it, the Berlin Wall.
 
iatrogenic said:
From 2009-2017 the homicides attributed to white Nationalists is approximately equal to the number of homicides committed only in Chicago each year. Relatively speaking the problem is small, and I have seen some highly questionable stats attributable to white nationalists. All homicides are terrible but don’t go overboard with your narrative.
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It's wildly politically incorrect to put any kind of context on it because it always illustrates how overblown the issue really is.
 
OUBubba said:
Weren't the members of the greatest generation the original antifascists?
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Barry, every now and then you'll surprise everybody and say something intelligent or sensible, and I'll think, "Maybe Switzer isn't so dumb. Maybe he's actually a credit to his alma mater."

And then you'll make a "go for it on 4th and 1 comment" like this, and I think to myself, "Nope, he's like every other dolt who lives in Mobilhoma."
 
iatrogenic said:
From 2009-2017 the homicides attributed to white Nationalists is approximately equal to the number of homicides committed only in Chicago each year. Relatively speaking the problem is small, and I have seen some highly questionable stats attributable to white nationalists. All homicides are terrible but don’t go overboard with your narrative.
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Ok. For the record, I love the Chicago misdirect. High level stuff there. How many compared to antifa?
 
Mr. Deez said:
Barry, every now and then you'll surprise everybody and say something intelligent or sensible, and I'll think, "Maybe Switzer isn't so dumb. Maybe he's actually a credit to his alma mater."

And then you'll make a "go for it on 4th and 1 comment" like this, and I think to myself, "Nope, he's like every other dolt who lives in Mobilhoma."
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It's a little tongue/cheek. Just like the "Homeland Security - Fighting Terrorism Since 1492" shirts.
 
Mr. Deez said:
It's wildly politically incorrect to put any kind of context on it because it always illustrates how overblown the issue really is.
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You could be right. I wonder how the rate would compare to in person voter fraud - that's a YUGE problem?
 
I did some cyphering. In person voter fraud is 31/1,000,000,000
or 0.000000031 - that's from 2000-2014. From 2008-2018 there were 429 murders linked to domestic violent extremists (the ones the DHS warned us about) out of 150,000 murders (that's approximate as we're dealing with apple/orange data) but it's within 20,000). That's 0.00286. I'm no statistician but the one has 5 more decimal points. Seems like one is a bigger problem than the other. Maybe even significantly bigger.

If anyone wants to see the impact of domestic extremism stop at the Murrah Memorial in OKC. It's a stop that everyone should make if they have a few hours passing through. The "Jesus Wept" statue is my favorite. So moving.
 
That was a guy that didn't like the government.

Antifa tells its members to "be ungovernable". Just something that makes you go hmmmmmmm.
 
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