America is lost...

Since you brought it up


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Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Abraham Lincoln
 
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Poppycock. Lincoln had the benefit of hindsight. It’s a matter of perspective, such as the red light shift in physics. Folks like Ben Franklin were the same on 1776 and subsequent years. By all means, keep voting for nudists and cranks for president and save us from political views that appeal to 3% of the population.
 
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mchammer, the point stands. Americans didn't think of themselves as a part of "a nation". Lincoln started that. He talked about the federal governent as a "holy union". He applied biblical language to politics even though he was an atheist.

He provoked a war with the South so that he could bring the Southern states back into the tax farm. At the time 2/3 of the taxes the federal government received came from the Southern states. The US federal government wouldn't have lasted long term without forcing the Confederates back into their umbrella. He jailed journalists. He wrecked the Constitution like no one else before him. Those are all facts.
 
Poppycock. Lincoln had the benefit of hindsight. It’s a matter of perspective, such as the red light shift in physics. Folks like Ben Franklin were the same on 1776 and subsequent years. By all means, keep voting for nudists and cranks for president and save us from political views that appeal to 3% of the population.

It's not my fault that 97% of Americans either vote for hard left Communists or the dupes they set up to lose to them. The rest of what you wrote was unclear...
 
It's not my fault that 97% of Americans either vote for hard left Communists or the dupes they set up to lose to them. The rest of what you wrote was unclear...
Some things are clearer when looking backwards than looking into the future. From Lincoln’s perspective a nation was born on 1776. Events have proven he was correct. Ben Franklin was present at the Declaration and the constitutional convention. Alexander the Great was once a baby yet he is considered the greatest conqueror. Is this contradictory? Only to a crank.
 
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From Lincoln’s perspective a nation was born on 1776.

The point is that this was a new idea in the 1860s. Americans didn't think of themselves as from one nation but from their state. In fact, the US is not a nation. It is made up of at least 11 different nations if you use the actual definition of the word.
 

Based on that, maybe we (America) are not so lost, but Disney is. Somewhat impressive for them to admit their wokeness is costing them. Of course, they use more general language about aligning with consumers' tastes. I must be a dumbass, but the solution is obvious. Make movies like they did pre-2000. Tell woke dudes and dudettes they can work on them, but they're going to have traditional stories. The gay dudes on Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Lion King et al. figured out how to make it work.
 
I just heard many families trying to attend the Army Navy game is Mass have had their reservations canceled. Illegals are taking up rooms in hotels.WTF?

And Dick Dubin wants to let the millions of military age men invading our county be allowed to join our military.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THESE PEOPLE????
 
I want to see if Millei will seriously reign in the central bank or not. Bankers are already protesting. He will be fighting a very powerful interest. If he could abolish it or even get some other currencies as legal tender in Argentina would be huge. El Salvador went to the dollar and made bitcoin legal tender. If he did that it would be a big step for them.
 


I think there is a misunderstanding of power. Millei isn't necessarily decreasing his own power. What he is doing is directly his power towards protecting natural rights and turning it away from violating natural rights. He is powerfully protecting citizens by destroying government prerogative. Yes. He is reducing the power and scope of the government. But it takes executive power to do that. It will also take real power to keep evil government to take back their ability to tyrannize the people.

Need someone in the US willing and wise enough to do the same thing.
 
I think there is a misunderstanding of power. Millei isn't necessarily decreasing his own power. What he is doing is directly his power towards protecting natural rights and turning it away from violating natural rights. He is powerfully protecting citizens by destroying government prerogative. Yes. He is reducing the power and scope of the government. But it takes executive power to do that. It will also take real power to keep evil government to take back their ability to tyrannize the people.

Need someone in the US willing and wise enough to do the same thing.
Political power vs government power. The two are not the same.
 
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