Affirmative Action is now dead

Monahorns said:
Litigation is a necessary part of the solution. But I think conservative states should outlaw any forms of race essentialism in college admissions. Penalty should be firing and jail. Conservatives need to use power to reshape these institutions from the top down. DeSantis and Rufo are starting to do this in Florida. No jail, but they are firing people and others are quitting due to the pressure. I think most professors will just go along with the changes.
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I also think it will be possible to turn the tide. Some colleges will still try to sneak in AA under other tactics but it will be easily proven that the admission was based mostly on race factors and not academics. And after 10-12 of these suits land squarely against AA in its many forms the colleges will slowly concede. I'm absolutely certain the recent ruling now gives many University leaders the tool they need to take their institutions back to where they already needed to go. Many were playing the 'go along to get along' game and supporting AA even though they likely didn't agree with the excesses that it was encouraging.
 
Monahorns said:
Litigation is a necessary part of the solution. But I think conservative states should outlaw any forms of race essentialism in college admissions. Penalty should be firing and jail. Conservatives need to use power to reshape these institutions from the top down. DeSantis and Rufo are starting to do this in Florida. No jail, but they are firing people and others are quitting due to the pressure. I think most professors will just go along with the changes.
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This. Spending $25M of the university or state's money doesn't change people's behavior. Jail might.
 
Monahorns said:
Litigation is a necessary part of the solution. But I think conservative states should outlaw any forms of race essentialism in college admissions. Penalty should be firing and jail. Conservatives need to use power to reshape these institutions from the top down. DeSantis and Rufo are starting to do this in Florida. No jail, but they are firing people and others are quitting due to the pressure. I think most professors will just go along with the changes.
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Absolutely. It should be a multidimensional approach. Where possible, this sort of crap should be outlawed by statute. (Of course, that shouldn't be necessary, because at least for public institutions, it was outlawed by the 14th Amendment, but too many of our courts are run by people who don't respect the rule of law.)

And we talk about how liberal the people who run UT are, but why should that be the case? The governor appoints the leadership at all public universities. We haven't had a Democratic governor since 1995. No reason for any Texas public university to have anything but conservative leadership.
 
BrntOrngStmpeDe said:
I also think it will be possible to turn the tide. Some colleges will still try to sneak in AA under other tactics but it will be easily proven that the admission was based mostly on race factors and not academics. And after 10-12 of these suits land squarely against AA in its many forms the colleges will slowly concede. I'm absolutely certain the recent ruling now gives many University leaders the tool they need to take their institutions back to where they already needed to go. Many were playing the 'go along to get along' game and supporting AA even though they likely didn't agree with the excesses that it was encouraging.
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I hope, but do you want to be the guy in the board meeting who tells a room full of hardcore woke SJWs who live for this **** and are used to getting their way that they all need to back down? That guy is going to need to have balls too big to fit through the door, because they'll do everything they can to ruin him.

Again, look at the Oberlin College case. They ended up forking out $36M (the $25M plus interest and attorney's fees) to keep fighting against the bakery it called racist. They could have resolved that thing for a tiny fraction of that, but nobody had the balls to be the voice of reason - even after the jury verdict.
 
Mr. Deez said:
I hope, but do you want to be the guy in the board meeting who tells a room full of hardcore woke SJWs who live for this **** and are used to getting their way that they all need to back down? That guy is going to need to have balls too big to fit through the door, because they'll do everything they can to ruin him.

Again, look at the Oberlin College case. They ended up forking out $36M (the $25M plus interest and attorney's fees) to keep fighting against the bakery it called racist. They could have resolved that thing for a tiny fraction of that, but nobody had the balls to be the voice of reason - even after the jury verdict.
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The fact that a placed called Oberlin College can afford a $36M payout shows that financial penalties will never be enough to stop this kind of behavior. 2,800 students but a $1.1B endowment. Wow.
 
hic
Weren't there programs at several colleges similar to that? Openly saying white people were not allowed to participate.
 
Here is another college that is trying to institute a program that calls for a black person only to be hired.
At least it is being challenged

"The latest iteration was a program at the University of Nebraska at Lincoln, organized in cooperation with a New York City based outfit called Black Public Media, that prioritized black filmmakers for a subsidized residential program. The lead on a team needed to be black, but once the black person was accepted, he or she could pick anyone (black or not) as the second person. That second person was not subsidized."

The Equal Protection Project (EPP)(EqualProtect.org) of the Legal Insurrection Foundation has challenged numerous racially discriminatory programs done in the name of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. This discrimination comes in a variety of ways, but the overarching theme is to exclude or diminish some people, and promote others, based on race, color, or ethnicity.

U. Nebraska-Lincoln ‘Black Public Media Residency’ Challenged By Equal Protection Project
 
Y'all keep putting up reports like this and I am going to start believe the federal government, state government, and corporations hate white people.
 
DeSantis added that DEI programs have been “basically used as a veneer to impose an ideological agenda,” adding that “if you look at the way this has actually been implemented across the country, DEI is better viewed as standing for discrimination, exclusion, and indoctrination. And that has no place in our public institutions.”
 
mchammer said:
DeSantis added that DEI programs have been “basically used as a veneer to impose an ideological agenda,” adding that “if you look at the way this has actually been implemented across the country, DEI is better viewed as standing for discrimination, exclusion, and indoctrination. And that has no place in our public institutions.”
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It has no place in private institutions either. It is illegal and blatantly so.
 
This is typical. Symone ( whoever that is) makes a claim the conservatives claim the plagiarist was hired because she was black. But doesn't show who and when those claims were made.
 
Don't even have to ask HHD's opinion.
This is so sad.
How did a dude who was likely also an AFAcademy grad write something so wrong and stupid? And WHY? What Woke group does he need to impress?
 
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