ACA enrollment numbers

The primary premise and selling point (there were plenty of other lies) of the law was to cover those who previously were uninsured. Are you admitting that the real goal was single payer?

The facts are that the law cannot support itself unless someone actually pays for it and that comes through healthy young people enrolling as well as massive tax increases. I know economics is something foreign to democrats, but even a pill counter can add.
 
Based upon that ridiculous theory called "math." Despite what you liberals believe, you cannot continue to spend more money than you take in. Obamacare is anchored by giving as many people as possible free insurance to make it popular. Unfortunately, someone does have to pay for it.
 
They don't need our money, they can just print it - all they need, maybe a few million a month, why not? I mean really, who's counting?
Until we lose our position as the monetary standard ( and it is going to happen, no one in Congress is going to do anything to slow, much less stop, Obama.
 
Pharm
Interesting site you linked
I see many mentions of people who ' selected

and I admit I didn't review it minutely
so
did your link provide how many of those who selected plans PAID for the plans? Do you know how many who selected actually paid?

and Pharm can you explain who PAYS for sevices if those who " selected : plans quit paying?
 
You specifically asked a question about the sustainability of ACA and I answered it. You then come back with fiscally irresponsible people from the past as a defense?

And even the most loyal Obama supporter knows enrollment is way behind EVEN though it is now mandatory. I am beginning to believe you are on the MSNBC payroll.
 
6721,

I think I read where actual enrollment is 80% of selected. I don't know how accurate that percentage is, however.
 
Uni
thanks
all I have found is that they don't actually know.
I did however see the admin said 4/5 of those who selected a plan qualified for us taxpayers to subsidize their premiums/
 
The New York Times recently published an article/study where 20% of enrollees have not paid their premiums. In the greatest stretch of liberal numbers, that places the total at 3.2 million enrollees. At least 10% of those were previously covered (most people believe the number is much higher given 6 million lost their plans - And the back end of the website is not complete preventing any true idea of numbers), so the true number is still less than 3 million. These enrollment figures are despite the fact that there is a legal requirement to enroll.

I know your are a proponent, but surely you will admit this is troubling for the program. Add in the low numbers of healthy people who have enrolled, and you have a recipe for failure.

I posted a link on the other recent ACA post to an article in the Huffington Post citing that most uninsured people had a unfavorable view of ACA. How do you spin all of this as good news?
 
Turn the lights up in Mom's basement and read the post. I am not worried about anything - ACA as written is a miserable failure and the democrats will feel it in the midterms.
 
Interestingly, we have spent 684 Million on Obamacare advertising which is only a portion of total marketing costs. Either the marketing campaign has been ineffective or the product that is being marketed sucks. Since it is free marketing for the insurance companies, however, I guess one could just consider it an entitlement for the insurance industry.
 
You want me to provide a link to a post just a few up -then you accuse me of derailing?
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If we wanted to see the Obama numbers, we would google any number of his sites which appear to be neutral, but are just propaganda.

My question is how do you see the numbers YOU posted? Positive or negative. If you have no opinion, maybe this forum is not for you...
 
See my math post.

I think everyone will be excited to see your next post with the administration's numbers! After all, this is the most honest and transparent President ever!
 
Now we learn that the very people BO insisted would benefit the most. all those 47 million uninsured, aren't signing up.
with days to go in enrollment period few previously uninsured appear to have enrolled OR are going to enroll

We have wasted over a trillion so far and we aren't making a dent in the very group BO gnashed his teeth over?
With what we have spent we could have covered every one of those 47 million including the ones who simply chose not to have health ins and even the illegals for many years.

BO has made so many illegal changes and exceptions to his " signature" legislation that he very well may have reneged on more obamacare regulations that he is enforcing.
 
Copied from your post:


In reply to:
The primary premise and selling point (there were plenty of other lies) of the law was to cover those who previously were uninsured. Are you admitting that the real goal was single payer?



of course that is a goal. That is how we expand coverage. but the enrollment goal is a goal based on total enrollment. that will include those who previously had coverage and those that dis not. what you need to wait to see is the total number uninsured before and after.

In reply to:
The facts are that the law cannot support itself unless someone actually pays for it

YOUR COMMENTS

based on? -----This is your specific question. I know you feel like everybody else is just dumb or lying (Reid's Orders), but you asked a question about why it was not sustainable. Not in those exact words, but that was what you asked.
 
The Obama administration has, for months now, been peddling nice-sounding numbers as to how many people are gaining health coverage due to Obamacare. But their numbers have been inflated on two fronts. First, not everyone who has “selected a marketplace plan” under Obamacare has actually paid the required premiums, payment being required to actually gain coverage. Second, only a fraction of people on the exchanges were previously uninsured. A new survey from McKinsey gives us a better view into the real numbers. Of the 3.3 million people that the White House has touted as Obamacare exchange “sign-ups,” less than 500,000 are actual uninsured people who have actually gained health coverage.

The Link

McKinsey is one of the most respected organizations in healthcare. The numbers are deceiving and point to looming problems for ACA.
 
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