2024 Recruiting - Football

George Bailey said:
We could spend a lifetime discussing the merits of 'stars'. Every year I'm reminded how much they really mean when we lose to a team full of 3* players...
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My obligatory response is that stars matter regarding overall talent. Stars mean little when it comes to drive and heart and also coaching. At least 65% of first round draft choices have 4 or 5 stars coming out of high school while almost none have less than 3 stars. With a hundred thousand players to evaluate its easy to miss on a 3 star to rate higher, but once you go past that it's rare to make it. Josh Allen is ONE example of a totally overlooked player who is now in the NFL but he is not the norm. Many high star players flame out usually because of attitude and commitment.

At the college level winning is all about coaching and the right systems for the players that you do get. Georgia beating TCU by 58 is what you get with an elite coached team of 4 and 5 star players vs a good coached team of 3 stars. TCU had a few 4 and 5 stars too though.
 
Vol Horn 4 Life said:
My obligatory response is that stars matter regarding overall talent. Stars mean little when it comes to drive and heart and also coaching. At least 65% of first round draft choices have 4 or 5 stars coming out of high school while almost none have less than 3 stars. With a hundred thousand players to evaluate its easy to miss on a 3 star to rate higher, but once you go past that it's rare to make it. Josh Allen is ONE example of a totally overlooked player who is now in the NFL but he is not the norm. Many high star players flame out usually because of attitude and commitment.

At the college level winning is all about coaching and the right systems for the players that you do get. Georgia beating TCU by 58 is what you get with an elite coached team of 4 and 5 star players vs a good coached team of 3 stars. TCU had a few 4 and 5 stars too though.
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While this is true, I never cease to be surprised by the number of players from D2, D3, and even jucos that are starting in the NFL. You see them almost every game. Another Josh Allen type example is Tyreek Hill, who his peers seem to think is the best player in the league. He started to Garden City community college, went to Oklahoma State, and finished apparently at West Alabama. While he might be except an exception, his story is really not that much of a rarity.
 
dukesteer said:
While this is true, I never cease to be surprised by the number of players from D2, D3, and even jucos that are starting in the NFL. You see them almost every game. Another Josh Allen type example is Tyreek Hill, who his peers seem to think is the best player in the league. He started to Garden City community college, went to Oklahoma State, and finished apparently at West Alabama. While he might be except an exception, his story is really not that much of a rarity.
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Of course you are right. There are roughly 250,000 graduating high school senior football players each year. Only about 350 players are graded as high star elite athletes. Of course it's highly likely there are 50+ of those 249,000+ other players who will end up getting drafted each year. The succes rate of high stars vs low/no stars is staggeringly higher but not a guarantee.
 
George Bailey said:
We could spend a lifetime discussing the merits of 'stars'. Every year I'm reminded how much they really mean when we lose to a team full of 3* players...
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Over the last 10 years, no one is better at losing to inferior talent than Texas. Part of that was poor coaching, part was not holding players accountable and some was just luck. We havent had the fire really since Muschamp left. None of our coaches have that. Bo hollered at some folks but he doesnt inspire or instill fear/intimidation like Muschamp. Sark may have weeded out the player issue and I hope he does. I never want to hear a player was a problem. The coaches are paid big money to coach. If a player doesnt have the fire to win, then play the next man up and instill the fire to win!!
 
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Updated Junior Day list from several sites.

2024
QB, Deuce Adams, New Braunfels Canyon
QB, Trey Owens, Cy-Fair
RB, Frankie Arthur, Conroe Oak Ridge
RB, Jerrick Gibson, IMG Academy (Bradenton, FL)
RB, Bryan Jackson II, McKinney High
RB, James Peoples, San Antonio Veterans Memorial
RB, Taylor Tatum, Longview
RB, J'koby Williams, Beckville
WR, Gekyle Baker, Brownsboro
WR, Kennedy Brantley, Melissa
WR, Hutch Crow, Dallas Parish Episcopal
TE, Luke Carter, Katy High
OL, Brandon Baker, Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA)
OL, Daniel Cruz, Richland
OL, Nyier Daniels, Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ)
OL, Ellis Davis, Prosper
OL, Blake Frazier, Austin Vandegrift
OL, Nate Kibble, Humble Atascocita
OL, Tyler Knape, Austin Westlake
OL, Khayree Lee, John Ehret (Marrero, LA)
OL, Blake Ivy, League City Clear Springs
OL, Michael Uini, Copperas Cove
OL, Bennett Warren, Fort Bend Christian
OL, Ory Williams, San Marcos
DT, Charleston Collins, Wilbur D. Mills (Pine Bluff, AR)
DT, Isaia Faga, Central (Phenix City, AL)
DT, Terrance Hibbler, Holmes County Central (Lexington, MS)
DT, Alex January, Duncanville
DT, Caleb Mitchell Irving, Dallas Parish Episcopal
DT, D'antre Robinson, Jones (Orlando, FL)
DT, Jeffery Rush, Jr., Pascagoula (Pascagoula, MS)
DT/DE, Melvin Hills III, Lafayette Christian (Lafayette, LA)
DE, Kolaj Cobbins, Destrehan (Destrehan, LA)
DE, KingJoseph Edwards, Mill Creek (Hoschton, GA)
DE, Brock Jackson, Lumberton
DE, Zina Umeozulu, Allen
LB, Markus Boswell, Austin Lake Travis
LB, Sandy Lewis, Lafayette Christian (Lafayette, LA)
LB, Payton Pierce, Lucas Lovejoy
LB, Dylan Williams, Long Beach Poly (Long Beach, CA)
LB, Justin Williams, Conroe Oak Ridge
CB, Jaden Allen, Aledo
CB, Kobe Black, Waco Connally
CB, Braylon Conley, Humble Atascocita
CB, Dakories Moment, Fort Worth Brewer
CB, Willie Nelson, Longview
CB, Benson Okan, Mansfield Timberview
LB, Michael Sylvalie, League City Clear Springs
S, Ka'Davion Doston, Duncanville
S, Corian Gipson, Lancaster
ATH, Ju'Juan Johnson, Lafayette Christian (Lafayette, LA)
ATH, Derrick McFall, Tyler High
ATH, Hunter Moddon, Houston Clear Lake

2025
QB, Sawyer Anderson, Dallas Parish Episcopal
QB, Adam Schobel, Columbus
RB, Tory Blaylock, Humble Atascocita
RB, Riley Wormley, Colleyville Heritage
WR, Andrew Marsh, Katy Jordan
TE, Ty Rupe, Conroe Grand Oaks
TE, Jeremiah Scoby, Dickinson
OL, Joshua Moses, Spring Legacy
OL, Kaden Strayhorn, IMG Academy (Bradenton, FL)
DT, Landon Rink, Cy-Fair
DT',Xavier Ukponu, Denton Guyer
DE, Chad Woodfork, Humble Summer Creek
LB, Kelvion Riggins, Dallas South Oak Cliff
CB, Noah Francis, IMG Academy (Bradenton, FL)
CB, Devin Sanchez, Galena Park North Shore
S, Jonah Williams, Galveston Ball

2026
DL, Jahkeem Stewart, St. Augustine (New Orleans, LA)
 
Pleasantly surprised that the Schobel kid is attending. That family has never had us on their Christmas card list. It is nice to see some exposure to Colorado County athletes particularly since his dad or uncle is the HC at Columbus.
 
SabreHorn said:
Pleasantly surprised that the Schobel kid is attending. That family has never had us on their Christmas card list. It is nice to see some exposure to Colorado County athletes particularly since his dad or uncle is the HC at Columbus.
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How are the kolaches though? I smell an NIL deal waiting to happen.
 
SabreHorn said:
Do they even sell kolaches?
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Apparently not on the breakfast menu. 3 players in the NFL though.
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