2021 NCAA tournament

Looks like Texas A&M, Tennessee, Arkansas, UCLA, Syracuse and Washington State (Kamie Ethridge) are among the teams who will play in Austin on Sunday/Monday.

Too bad Arkansas wasn't sent to San Antonio so Amber Ramirez could play the first round game in her hometown; well, if they win, she'll get to play there in second round.

NCAA Tournament Schedule - Women's Basketball - ESPN
 
Was the Cedar Park Arena (HEB) eliminated as a site this year? I know that some complain about Maryland, SC as tough draws. But in every bracket you have teams like this or worse. Would you usually prefer to be in UConn or Baylor's bracket? If we can get this far, this will have been a solid season. Collier has to be in the game at the end if it is close or else we will be bounced earlier in the tourney. Those foul outs kill us.
 
What I'm liking about this tournament schedule is the spacing because of the pandemic where we can record and watch every game of the 1st and 2nd round.

In previous years, several games would be ongoing simultaneously and depending on which region in the country you're in, you're only able to watch that one game or have whip-around action.

But this year, you can record and watch every game!

NCAA Tournament Schedule - Women's Basketball - ESPN
 
zztx1 said:
Was the Cedar Park Arena (HEB) eliminated as a site this year? I know that some complain about Maryland, SC as tough draws. But in every bracket you have teams like this or worse. Would you usually prefer to be in UConn or Baylor's bracket? If we can get this far, this will have been a solid season. Collier has to be in the game at the end if it is close or else we will be bounced earlier in the tourney. Those foul outs kill us.
Click to expand...
In all honesty this is the best draw Texas could have got out of the entire bracket considering we are a 6 seed. Ucla is a very winnable game and Imo they aren't 2 seed talent. I see them more as a 4 seed. We all know Maryland and their ability to score so like you said, if we get that far then it's a successful season in my eyes but me being selfish I would like to see us in the sweet 16 but not really looking that far just yet:p
 
zztx1 said:
Was the Cedar Park Arena (HEB) eliminated as a site this year? I know that some complain about Maryland, SC as tough draws. But in every bracket you have teams like this or worse. Would you usually prefer to be in UConn or Baylor's bracket? If we can get this far, this will have been a solid season. Collier has to be in the game at the end if it is close or else we will be bounced earlier in the tourney. Those foul outs kill us.
Click to expand...
The way these first couple of matchups look (assuming we win the first game) Collier should be able to be a dominant force. But I'm taking it one game at a time.
 
zztx1 said:
Was the Cedar Park Arena (HEB) eliminated as a site this year? I know that some complain about Maryland, SC as tough draws. But in every bracket you have teams like this or worse. Would you usually prefer to be in UConn or Baylor's bracket? If we can get this far, this will have been a solid season. Collier has to be in the game at the end if it is close or else we will be bounced earlier in the tourney. Those foul outs kill us.
Click to expand...
When regional sites for the 2021 tournament were announced like 3 years ago, the Cedar Park arena was selected, and Texas was going to be the host. Due to pandemic and all games being played in the San Antonio "area", all previously-selected Regional sites were eliminated. With San Marcos and Austin's FEC being available for first round games, there was no need to go further northwest and require use of the Cedar Park arena.
 

Vic with a little bullet at Baylor @14:22 didn't directly mention them but saying "our kids are classy but, I can't say that about every opponent we've played this year". Baylor is the only team who acts the way they do after a win or during the games which is why it will make it that much better when Texas gets the players needed to beat them because I know I'm not the only one tired of watching them do all the theatrics and trash talking when playing us.
 
Anybody have any idea how much the Final Four and Championship tickets will be?

They released the S16 and E8 tkts 2day. They are $25. I just wish they had a few package deals for all the S16 and then all the E8. Purchasing them one at a time is a pain.
 
Lower level Final 4 tkts $300 and upper level $180. They did package these tickets to include all 3 games - both final 4 games and the championship game.
 
Everybody got their brackets in? I picked Horns to beat Bradley, UCLA, and Maryland. Fairytale over against SC though. So don’t be surprised. Make your picks!
 
The women complaining about weight room disparity:

But... from The Wall Street Journal:

March Madness for the men is a multibillion-dollar gusher for the NCAA, thanks to its recently extended $19.6 billion, 22-year deal television deal. Teams and conferences benefit from that bounty. A team’s Cinderella run can pad its conference’s financial coffers for years.

The broadcast revenue generated by the women’s tournament, however, is just a slice of NCAA’s deal with ESPN for championships in 24 other men’s and women’s sports, which runs through 2023-24 and is worth about $500 million over 14 years—or about $35 million annually. The women’s basketball tournament doesn’t turn a profit, nor does the NCAA factor its results into its annual financial distributions to schools as it does for the men.
 
bystander said:
The women complaining about weight room disparity:

But... from The Wall Street Journal:

March Madness for the men is a multibillion-dollar gusher for the NCAA, thanks to its recently extended $19.6 billion, 22-year deal television deal. Teams and conferences benefit from that bounty. A team’s Cinderella run can pad its conference’s financial coffers for years.

The broadcast revenue generated by the women’s tournament, however, is just a slice of NCAA’s deal with ESPN for championships in 24 other men’s and women’s sports, which runs through 2023-24 and is worth about $500 million over 14 years—or about $35 million annually. The women’s basketball tournament doesn’t turn a profit, nor does the NCAA factor its results into its annual financial distributions to schools as it does for the men.
Click to expand...
Not entirely relevant to the point. The law (often referred to as Title IX) states that you must create an equitable scenario between the two. Money is not the reason the NCAA pulled this, it was because they thought they could get away with it. Simple as that
 
utfannforlife said:
Not entirely relevant to the point. The law (often referred to as Title IX) states that you must create an equitable scenario between the two. Money is not the reason the NCAA pulled this, it was because they thought they could get away with it. Simple as that
Click to expand...

It's relevant in the real world. If the law (however it's worded) is what matters, then make way money spent on upgrading every facility regardless of the merits of it's actual value to the paying public.

I don't buy the argument.
 
bystander said:
It's relevant in the real world. If the law (however it's worded) is what matters, then make way money spent on upgrading every facility regardless of the merits of it's actual value to the paying public.

I don't buy the argument.
Click to expand...
We could probably do a full 12 rounds on the issue because women’s sports is under invested in as a whole so an expectation for it to generate equal or similar revenue is a bit ridiculous on its face.

But that being said, the NCAA is as wrong as two left shoes in this instance and I think we can all agree on that.
 
utfannforlife said:
We could probably do a full 12 rounds on the issue because women’s sports is under invested in as a whole so an expectation for it to generate equal or similar revenue is a bit ridiculous on its face.

But that being said, the NCAA is as wrong as two left shoes in this instance and I think we can all agree on that.
Click to expand...

We don't need to go that far. If we are to argue fairness under the law then someone will have to give the women the exact same facilities as the men and someone will pay for all of it; just not the women's revenues.

I don't believe the investment into the women's program is relevant. I hate to say it, but I only want to watch the best. My money for entertainment goes for the best. And I believe their revenues reflect a widespread agreement with my point of view. You can't make us want to spend our money on them by spending money on them.
 
bystander said:
We don't need to go that far. If we are to argue fairness under the law then someone will have to give the women the exact same facilities as the men and someone will pay for all of it; just not the women's revenues.

I don't believe the investment into the women's program is relevant. I hate to say it, but I only want to watch the best. My money for entertainment goes for the best. And I believe their revenues reflect a widespread agreement with my point of view. You can't make us want to spend our money on them by spending money on them.
Click to expand...
If you truly believe this, then the NCAA should be sharing its profits with the student athletes. After all, that’s who you are “paying” to see. And if you think women’s sports going away would reduce that cost to you, then you are approaching this subject naively

The law exists because for generations women were not being given the opportunity to play much less compete. Today they are given the opportunity to play but are still lacking the investment in infrastructure to truly compete. It’s a societal thing and if you don’t care about the women’s game, nothing I could type here is going to change that. But if you are going to use money, profits, costs etc. as part of your argument, then you’ll need to be open to a much bigger discussion around the issues mentioned above.

With most everything, you get out what you put in. You get what you pay for. You get more when you invest more but only if you address all of the factors that contribute to success and/or failure.

There are plenty of examples in this country and even more around the globe that proves this argument. It costs money to build a sustainable, profitable program. It’s not going to happen as long as the argument remains centered around current profit margins.

By the way, one of the largest donations made to the athletic program at UT was given by a couple who attend the women’s basketball and volleyball games. The gift was given in such a way that it benefits all athletes and not just women.
 
Last edited:
WCBBNUT said:
If you truly believe this, then the NCAA should be sharing its profits with the student athletes. After all, that’s who you are “paying” to see. And if you think women’s sports going away would reduce that cost to you, then you are approaching this subject naively

The law exists because for generations women were not being given the opportunity to play much less compete. Today they are given the opportunity to play but are still lacking the investment in infrastructure to truly compete. It’s a societal thing and if you don’t care about the women’s game, nothing I could type here is going to change that. But if you are going to use money, profits, costs etc. as part of your argument, then you’ll need to be open to a much bigger discussion around the issues mentioned above.

With most everything, you get out what you put in. You get what you pay for. You get more when you invest more but only if you address all of the factors that contribute to success and/or failure.

There are plenty of examples in this country and even more around the globe that proves this argument. It costs money to build a sustainable, profitable program. It’s not going to happen as long as the argument remains centered around current profit margins.

By the way, one of the largest donations made to the athletic program at UT was given by a couple who attend the women’s basketball and volleyball games. The gift was given in such a way that it benefits all athletes and not just women.
Click to expand...
:beertoast:
 
WCBBNUT said:
I hope the women were paying attention tonight. You cannot take any game for granted. :facepalm:
Click to expand...
To the credit of our women's program, we actually have a coach interested in coaching basketball at the D1 level to earn his salary. The men's program has a multi-million dollar supervisor of PE sessions for playground ball.
 
Central Michigan starts the tournament off this morning where you can see Associate Head Coach Gail Goestenkors on the sideline. I just happened to watch the end of their conference tournament win and saw her jumping up and down with glee like a teenager. It was nice to see that. I did not know she was back in the college coaching ranks.
 
Last edited:
HornView said:
Central Michigan starts the tournament off this morning where you can see Associate Head Coach Gail Goestenkors on the sideline. I just happened to watch the end of their conference tournament win and saw her jumping up and down with glee like a teenager. It was nice to see that. I did not know she was back in the college coaching ranks.
Click to expand...
Thanks for that information! Last I read GG had said she wanted to get back into coaching. I’m surprised I never read anything about this move considering the amount of time I fritter away on basketball boards.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Recent Threads

Prediction Results Threads

2024 Schedules

Back
Top