2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

Seattle Husker said:
Here is the official HHS press release.

Key passages (emphasis mine):




I suspect this isn't a controversy. What are the chances that the vaccine is being produced and staged for delivery in the US and Germany? My guess is that the vaccine being produced in the US will likely be used here while those vials being produced in Germany will be used in the EU.

Operation Warp Speed is more of a logistical operation than anything. Yes, there is some co-development with some vaccine manufacturers but that is simply $$$ and accelerated FDA approval. The primary value of Operation Warp Speed is the military dissemination of the vaccine quickly and safely around the US.
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Israel purchased 8M doses of Pfizer's vaccine. I'm sure Pfizer has a process for dissemination of their vaccine and contract language that reinforces it but clearly they are between a challenging position about who gets what first.
 
Joe Fan said:
Obama 2008: 69,498,516
Obama 2012: 65,915,795
Hillary 2016: 65,853,514
Ol Joe 2020: 77,941,177
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Lot's of dislike for Trump and the prevalence of mail in ballots reducing barrier to entry for voters. When states start publishing the volumes of rejected ballots it will be clear just how much Trump was disliked for the average voter.

So, I will give Trump credit for making the average apathetic American voter care about voting. Kudos DJT!
 
Back in 2019, Dem Senators Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar and Ron Wyden issued a formal complaint to Dominion Voting Systems alleging, among other problems, 'vote-switching.'

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https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/H.I.G. McCarthy, & Staple Street letters.pdf
 
SH, do you not think an increase in over 12 mil votes is eyebrow raising? Just wondering, seems a bit curious cause no way do I believe Jo is anywhere near as beloved among the Dems as Obama.
 
nashhorn said:
SH, do you not think an increase in over 12 mil votes is eyebrow raising? Just wondering, seems a bit curious cause no way do I believe Jo is anywhere near as beloved among the Dems as Obama.
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I don't. We expanded access to voting (VBM) while both sides spent massive on get out the votes campaign. Voter suppression efforts this election had the opposite effects to both parties. Keep in mind, our voter participation historically has been atrocious (near 60% of eligible voters). Bumping that up a tad has a huge impact on vote totals.
 
Biden wins by "an electoral college landslide, of which we've never seen before", at least since 2016.

Actually, it was a healthy win but wasn't a landslide then either. Biden received 5.2M more votes than Trump, 3.3% more.
 
Just note that 200 people submitting 100 fraudulent ballots is 20,000, which is the difference in WI and 2x the difference in GA and NV.
 
Seattle Husker said:
Biden wins by "an electoral college landslide, of which we've never seen before", at least since 2016.

Actually, it was a healthy win but wasn't a landslide then either. Biden received 5.2M more votes than Trump, 3.3% more.
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:yikes: Trump tweeted that he won in a landslide?! Now I'm confused....
 
nashhorn said:
SH, do you not think an increase in over 12 mil votes is eyebrow raising? Just wondering, seems a bit curious cause no way do I believe Jo is anywhere near as beloved among the Dems as Obama.
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If you pay attention to their language, you will notice that they do not actually deny there was widespread voter fraud.

They deny that it can be proved.
 
A Dominion Voting Systems "Security Chief" actively participated in Antifa activities, even posted their "manifesto"

Oltman explained that “Eric” was telling the Antifa members they needed to “keep up the pressure.” When Oltman asked, “Who’s Eric?” someone answered, “Eric, he’s the Dominion guy.” Oltman said that as the conversation continued, someone asked, “What are we gonna do if F*cking Trump wins?” Oltman paraphrased how Eric (the Dominion guy) responded, “Don’t worry about the election, Trump’s not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!”​

https://thespectator.info/2020/11/1...sted-antifa-manifesto-letter-to-trump-online/
 
What an honest honorable person Biden is. Learned from Clinton
Joe Biden's cancer charity spent more than $3.7million on staff salaries but distributed ZERO towards research grants over two years, tax filings reveal
Joe and Jill Biden founded The Biden Cancer Initiative in 2017 to help find a cure and ‘solutions to accelerate progress in cancer prevention.’
But it appeared no grants were given out during its first two years of operation.
Biden's cancer charity spent more than $3.7million on staff salaries


maybe newer records will show grants were given
 
Biden is a horrible person, certainly worse than Trump. Biden lied during the campaign to inflame racial tensions. He lied about practically every controversial position. He is a grifter who got rich from his office. I am scratching my head why people think Trump is worse or a bigger buffoon. I don’t think it’s close.
 
mchammer said:
Biden is a horrible person, certainly worse than Trump. Biden lied during the campaign to inflame racial tensions. He lied about practically every controversial position He is a grifter who got rich from his office. I am scratching my head why people think Trump is worse or a bigger buffoon. I don’t think it’s close.
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He's just so mean and boorish. Not like Biden, who listens carefully and gives thoughtful, respectful replies to people.
 
Wife just informed me she heard Durham was dropping some of the investigation, thinks its the email stuff - said would anticipate too much Biden blow back.

I know I'll get killed on this, no data to support, just what she said but I have said this would happen all along - all investigations legit or not, are done. Hello Pres Biden, America will change, maybe subtle maybe not but it will change.
 
Yeah that's why I thought the thread "Hillary is not out of the woods yet", cause I do not believe she will ever get in the woods. Nothing will ever happen, nothing.
 
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