2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

Garmel said:
Definitely something to look into. No guarantee that it did something wrong in Georgia or anywhere else. However, Georgia has a reputation for ballot harvesting. Rep Vernon Jones was on Fox last night and even he thinks chicanery is occurring in Georgia
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I read up to 30 states may be using the Soros-vote-count-software. Each one should be recounted by hand
 
2003TexasGrad said:
Biden is a very weak "centrist" who blows in the wind, has obvious signs of mental decline, very likely is compromised by China and may not even get through his first term. Add in a VP in Harris who others have pointed out has a sordid record and willingness to placate the socialist left.....

The only thing that will stand in the way of a major socialist shift will be a Republican Senate.
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The problem is that the Republican Senate is not in the bag yet.
 
bystander said:
I believe Biden is a centrist if you get him in a room with other centrists and not AOC et al. But I worry why Kamala was selected. She will be out there hammering the Beto/AOC hate white people agenda. She is now the VP. I fear Biden was merely a front to pacify moderates into believing the Left wing totalitarians (and I do not consider you personally to be anywhere close to that at all) are not going to continue their advancement now that their rep is VP.
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This feeling that Biden is controlled by the extremes is projection from the right. AOC, Sanders and their ilk are powerful in the Democratic party but that power has waned since Biden won the party nomination and was further muted with the R house gains and the Senate results.

Biden has been handed a difficult deck to manage from his left and right.
 
nashhorn said:
Votes on a flash drive? What the heck? What year?
And JF what you describe about business is Biden’s lockdown position which is coming to a theater near you soon.
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This was one of several issues Joe equivocated on. It's hard to ever know what he actually believes in or plans to do. Like Nancy said, you have to elect him to see what he actually stands for.
 
If this projection holds and Biden is officially the next POTUS, the DNC and far left will have cheated in collosul and unprecedented series of ways to win.
 
Seattle Husker said:
This feeling that Biden is controlled by the extremes is projection from the right. AOC, Sanders and their ilk are powerful in the Democratic party but that power has waned since Biden won the party nomination and was further muted with the R house gains and the Senate results.

Biden has been handed a difficult deck to manage from his left and right.
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We'll see what happens. I think Biden made more than a Freudian slip with his fossil fuel comments. It's one thing to try to mitigate the problems (reduce flaring, increase compliance monitoring, increase controls around line hits etc.) and quite another to put fossil fuel companies out of business (in an accelerated manner) which I know for a fact is the agenda of activists here in Austin. They are gaining traction because they viciously call people out as murderers or evil and nobody knows how to counter that kind of rhetoric. AOC has no problem talking like that.

Trump's gift was that he was unaffected by the zealots calling everyone Nazi's and evil monsters. That is what it takes to beat them back. You have to be balsy enough to do it and it takes a certain kind of personality. Not Pence. Trump. Because that's what they asked for by acting that way.
 
Seattle Husker said:
This feeling that Biden is controlled by the extremes is projection from the right. AOC, Sanders and their ilk are powerful in the Democratic party but that power has waned since Biden won the party nomination and was further muted with the R house gains and the Senate results.

Biden has been handed a difficult deck to manage from his left and right.
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In the most important decision of his campaign, he selected the most extreme leftist in the Senate for his running mate. That is not the mark of a centrist.
 
UTChE96 said:
In the most important decision of his campaign, he selected the most extreme leftist in the Senate for his running mate. That is not the mark of a centrist.
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He needed a female person of color. She was most qualified and gave hom the best chance to win. Do you think Pence did anything other than solidify Trump's cred with the White Evangelical base?
 
Seattle Husker said:
He needed a female person of color. She was most qualified.
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He "needed"? By what law or edict? You mean he backed himself into a corner trying to be "woke" and basically eliminated 90% of the potential candidate pool. Stupid move. And Kamala wasn't the "most" qualified if you're a centrist candidate. Kamalas record is anything but.

Don't turn into a partisan hack now....
 
Seattle Husker said:
He needed a female person of color. She was most qualified and gave hom the best chance to win. Do you think Pence did anything other than solidify Trump's cred with the White Evangelical base?
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My take is that Kamala was political payback for black support and identity politics.

Pence has the same political philosophy as Trump. He only lacks the intoxicating blunt talk personality.
 
Seattle Husker said:
He needed a female person of color.
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He “needed” a person of color to satisfy the extreme leftists in the party that push identity politics. I understand thats politics. But its also evidence that he will be controlled by the left wing extremists in the party. The only thing that will moderate Biden at this point will be a Republican Senate.
 
2003TexasGrad said:
He "needed"? By what law or edict? You mean he backed himself into a corner trying to be "woke" and basically eliminated 90% of the potential candidate pool. Stupid move. And Kamala wasn't the "most" qualified if you're a centrist candidate. Kamalas record is anything but.

Don't turn into a partisan hack now....
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The VP pick is about building a constituency, complementary to the top of the ticket. Yes, as a centrist he needed to bring his far left into his base, just as Trump pulled the far right into his base.
 
A good friend of mine (Hispanic) put up a meme about restoring our country. I mentioned that Obama deported over 3 million people. His response:

"you’re to late, it’s over buddy"
 
WorsterMan said:
If this projection holds and Biden is officially the next POTUS, the DNC and far left will have cheated in collosul and unprecedented series of ways to win.
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Ok, keep bringing in the lawsuits with your "evidence" then and take it up to the Supreme Court. Let the evidence speak for itself. Though so far, Trump campaign legal efforts have been rejected by the courts left and right.

Just a friendly reminder that Trump never even accepted the 2016 election which he claimed he won in a "landslide" and that all the popular votes that Hilary won over him were "fraudulent". He requested a commission to investigate, which soon got disbanded, because they couldn't find anything! Nada!

Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud
 
Seattle Husker said:
The VP pick is about building a constituency, complementary to the top of the ticket. Yes, as a centrist he needed to bring his far left into his base, just as Trump pulled the far right into his base.
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Did Trump come out 2 years before the election and proclaim he would ONLY consider a White male Evangelical, thereby automatically eliminating 90% of qualified candidates?
 
2003TexasGrad said:
Did Trump come out 2 years before the election and proclaim he would ONLY consider a White male Evangelical, thereby automatically eliminating 90% of qualified candidates?
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Did you sleep through the #METOO and BLM movements? Don't kid yourself that Trump wasn't spending his time prior to picking Pence trying to woo the Evangelical right.

As an aside...2yrs? He announced it before he announced he was running? Come on, man.
 
Joe Fan said:
It's categorically Soros' guy
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