2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence
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Seattle Husker
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I'm not sure that's true. Yes, the claim is making the rounds on the internet. Don't you think there'd be a lawsuit the next day if those votes "magically" appeared without the poll watchers watching the count? Heck, we're seeing lawsuits for much les significant infractions like sharpies and poll watchers being asked to stand 10ft back vs. 6ft. It's more likely the claim doesn't pass the smell test.
For starters, by not handing them ridiculous tweets on a silver platter. Keep your children out of the trough. Act like Mike Pence but tone down a bit the religious rhetoric because a Conservative remembers the 1st Amendment is not just about free speech. Discuss abortion as not something the Pope said but as a scientific fact; a viable baby is a human being. Forcefully stand up against Russia and China. Support Israel but be mindful of human rights violations in Palestine if they occur. Stand up unequivocally against Islamic Terrorism but court all religions as welcome under our torch and acknowledge as a human cultural fact; almost a scientific fact; that mankind routinely seeks answers to existential questions and the answers are not wholly provided by one religion or no religion at all. Do not agree to reparations but remember that jobs are the answer.
And for God's sake, will someone please deal with the national debt?
AustinHorn24
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I'll make a bet with you for 10k that 3 months from now the official vote totals after recounts will be less than +/- 1000 differential from their current totals in each of these close states.
This has been debunked repeatedly. It was a data entry error.
No, Joe Biden did not mysteriously gain 138,000 Michigan votes all at once
PolitiFact - No, Biden did not receive thousands of mysteriously surfaced votes in Michigan
RUMOR ALERT: Biden Did Not Receive 100% of 128K New Votes in Michigan
Hell even the guy who originally tweeted about it retracted it later and admitted
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This tweet was taken and share honestly. I have now learned the MI update referenced was a typo in one county.<br><br>I have deleted the original tweet. <a href="https://t.co/NXQINWDbEH">pic.twitter.com/NXQINWDbEH</a></p>— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) <a href="">November 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Joe Fan
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FBN was better than FN
That wasn’t my point. You already conceded the vote will change. Only question is how many illegal votes get snared in the recount and additional scrutiny. You also fail to understand that in past elections the absentee ballot vote was 1% of total cast. This year, vote by mail is like 10, 20, or 30%. You also fail to understand that mail in ballots (absentee, provisional, etc,) get invalidated all the time. You need to be prepared for the possibility of thousands of votes getting invalidated. Maybe the final number doesn’t make a difference, but there are plenty of articles about mail-in ballot shenanigans in Philly.
Did the 49ers swing a local California election?
"Millions of dollars spent by San Francisco 49ers CEO Jed York appear to have successfully swung local elections in Santa Clara, California"
"“It’s shocking and obnoxious,” Santa Clara Mayor Lisa Gillmor told the San Francisco Chronicle last month."
So....
Democrats are crushing Republicans in fundraising as campaign hits the final stretch
"Millions of dollars spent by San Francisco 49ers CEO Jed York appear to have successfully swung local elections in Santa Clara, California"
"“It’s shocking and obnoxious,” Santa Clara Mayor Lisa Gillmor told the San Francisco Chronicle last month."
So....
Democrats are crushing Republicans in fundraising as campaign hits the final stretch
Seattle Husker
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$$$ is much more effective in local elections. That applies to Santa Clara, Seattle or Dallas.
That's supposed to be evidence for cheating? A screenshot of someone claiming one of the Karens is his dead wife?
Accusations of dead people voting has been the right's go to trope. It's actually extremely rare; and in this election, it's also been debunked multiple times:
Dead people don’t vote: Study points to an ‘extremely rare’ fraud | SIEPR
PolitiFact - Dead voters on Detroit’s voter rolls, including person born in 1823? That post is outdated
Joe Fan
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I thought you guys loved debunked stories, like the Russia hoax.
How do you ever decide which debunking to go with?
It must be tough for you to keep it all straight
AustinHorn24
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I'm sure dead people have voted in elections, but nowhere near enough to swing a presidential election.
Local elections on the other hand are a different story. Those can swing based on as little as 50 votes so fraud would be much more effective there.
Local elections on the other hand are a different story. Those can swing based on as little as 50 votes so fraud would be much more effective there.
Joe Fan
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Joe Fan
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Graham already signaled he would be willing to wobble on amnesty
There's nothing debunked about Russian interference and meddling in 2016. It happened. Even the right admits it. Only die-hard Trumpers still refuse to accept it.
Here's the US official intelligence report on this:
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume1.pdf
Republican-Led Review Backs Intelligence Findings on Russian Interference
Intelligence director says agencies agree on Russian meddling
PecosBill
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@Joe Fan There were 4 Karen Myers that early voted in person in Travis County Election. In order to file a ballot dispute with Travis County Clerk the full name and birthdate is required.
Do you know the middle name and birthdate of Karen Myers the deceased spouse of Kevin Michael Myers?
They are willing to expedite a ballot inquiry.
Success! Found 4 received ballots for KAREN MYERS, TRAVIS COUNTY
- check_circle
KAREN DAWN MYERS
TRAVIS COUNTY
Precinct 304, in-person
Ballot received October 19 - check_circle
KAREN ELIZABETH MYERS
TRAVIS COUNTY
Precinct 150, in-person
Ballot received October 19 - check_circle
KAREN JAYNE MYERS
TRAVIS COUNTY
Precinct 314, in-person
Ballot received October 14 - check_circle
KAREN LOUISE MYERS
TRAVIS COUNTY
Precinct 330, in-person
Ballot received October 21
Joe Fan
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$100k worth of FB ads was not exactly meddling. That is all you ever proved
Joe Fan
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My sense is that Kevin Myers knows his dead wife's middle name (which is quite possibly her maiden name), but maybe I'm wrong
Joe Fan
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Rep political analyst and former Trump Data Chief Matt Braynard thinks he can detect voter fraud by comparing absentee ballots and early voters to the Social Security Death Index and the National Change of Address Database. Braynard is president of a company that provides services for voter targeting, polling and fundraising. He has a "GoFundMe page" but thinks they might nuke it (bc, you know, that is how BigTech rolls these days). Still he is already up to ~$170k. He says he has vendors lined up for Social Security and the Change of Address data, and is "Tracking down source data on Early Voters/ABS [absentee ballots]."
They'll definitely invalidate some. I wonder if the Supreme court will say BS to the "no/illegible postmark" stuff in Pennsylvania.
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Horns11
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My first thought would be that a screenshot of a Facebook post is also shady, but maybe that's just me. There are plenty of trolls out there who could create the account in a minute, find a common last name, and make a post like this. But maybe I'm wrong.
I guess a better question would be that if you want to go to court over this, there is recourse for you.
Joe Fan
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You want me to sue you over a disagreement on Hornfans?
That would have to start with you posting your full name and address here (needed for service) and that of your parents too, if applicable
Which had zero impact on votes. There is counter evidence ignored by Brennan that Putin wanted Hillary to win.
Horns11
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Sorry, not "you," Joe Fan. The ethereal "you" as in the party or Mr. Myers himself or the RNC or whoever wants to take this matter.
Joe Fan
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OK then
See how reasonable we are, fellas?
I've never heard those words from the "other" side.
Guess you guys are never wrong...or haven't seen enough "evidence" yet.
We just want the truth.
Can we all agree to this?
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