Controversial opinions

utahorn said:
I did not discuss "Rock Hair", it was about Nirvana and Grunge. I like Bon Jovi, etc. I do not believe that one genre kills another. Times and tastes change.
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Also, grunge and alternative mainly killed the more ridiculous hair metal groups like Poison. Guns and Roses continued with Use Your Illusion in '91 and '92.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Also, grunge and alternative mainly killed the more ridiculous hair metal groups like Poison. Guns and Roses continued with Use Your Illusion in '91 and '92.
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Yes, they continued with a couple mediocre albums, but that music pretty much died with them. Nobody wanted rock anymore or at least the music producers didn't want it.
 
Vol Horn 4 Life said:
Yes, they continued with a couple mediocre albums, but that music pretty much died with them. Nobody wanted rock anymore or at least the music producers didn't want it.
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Use Your Illusion had quite a bit of decent and successful music. What they made after that was just not very good. Metallica also found some mainstream success.
 
Mr. Deez said:
That's a big exaggeration.
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You should cut John Lennon some slack. While Paul was doing around 1/2 the writing, John was nonetheless something of a generational icon for the Boomers. Sure, maybe he's no Kurt, but he's still very important as a sea-changer of the music world.
 
Nirvana was listening to The Pixies maybe like U2 was listening to The Clash. They stole the quiet to screaming back to quiet song structure. But I did like Teenage Spirit, Come As You Are and Lithium. There was something different about Cobain's voice. It sounded real, not like Bon Jovi pretending to be an unemployed dock worker to make millions on a prayer. But from that era, I liked Alice in Chains by far the most. They're the only grunge band I still listen to, though I liked Pearl Jam's efforts at the tribute to The Who (Love Reign On Me and The Real Me). They nailed it. I agree grunge killed off the hair bands, just like The Beatles killed off doo wop and crooners. And somebody killed off Classic Rock (in favor of punk and New Wave).
 
Vol Horn 4 Life said:
Different genre, they were heavy metal vs rock although they did try to do some weird stuff like playing with an orchestra. Metallica has a decent young following even today.
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But the Black Album wasn't really heavy metal the way their other stuff was. It was more mainstream.
 
Glittering prizes, and then there's compromises that shatter the illusion of integrity.
 
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Mr. Deez said:
Well, many Metallica fans claimed they sold out with that album.
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I think that whole idea of selling out is pretty funny. They wrote what came to mind. It's as if they deliberately kept music like that in the can because they would rather have been a cult, underground band than rich as F. And famous all over the world. They were a mature band that understood melody (funny to say about a heavy metal band) and it all came together. It was almost like (just a weird analogy) Days of Future Passed by The Moody Blues, who fused symphony music with rock. Metallica grew up and what happened, happened. They fused metal with melody. It's not easy to write a pop song and what they did, in my opinion, was very difficult, not a sell out. Look at Genesis. They went from the art rock epics of Peter Gabriel to the pop sensibility of Phil Collins. Even Peter changed (Big, Red Rain, In Your Eyes). People get older and change.
 
Speaking of the word genre, look what Beyonce said about that after being awarded best country album of the year at the Grammys (which, again, I didn't watch):

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Poor, oppressed Beyonce. She used her power to cross-over and like Megan Markle, embraces victimhood. Surprised she didn't use the term, "Dog Whistle." She is completely wired to be oppressed. She looks for it.
 
Ringo Starr is actually a really good drummer.

Not saying he's Neal Peart, Ginger Baker, John Bonham, Keith Moon, etc., but still a really good drummer. He didn't do solos or show off.
 
Ranking of “high culture” fine arts cities in Texas:

1. HOUSTON
2. FT WORTH
3. DALLAS
4. AUSTIN
5. SAN ANTONIO
 
Ranking of Texas grocery stores:

1. Central Market by HEB
2. Tom Thumb
3. Sprouts
4. Trader Joes
5. Randalls
6. Whole Foods
7. Regular HEB
8. Kroger
9. Albertsons
10. Food Town
11. Wal-Mart Neighborhood Market
12. Super Target
13. Fiesta
14. WinCo
15. Aldi
16. Wal-Mart Supercenter
17. La Michoacana
18. Elrods
 
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Don't you know that Kroger hates their decision to violate the handshake agreement they made with Howard back in the 30s.
 
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