Will we execute an innocent man?

Mr. Deez said:
This might be too nuanced for you. You've ignored the most important points in this discussion. However, to answer your question, it depends on the subject matter of his testimony. If he's testifying about specifics about the state of Stites' body, that might be a problem if someone who examined her body sooner after her death disagreed with his testimony, which isn't the case no matter how much you want it to be. If he's testifying about the science of agreed upon facts (for example, testifying how long sperm can stay in the vaginal cavity), then it wouldn't matter if he was testifying about the Cain and Abel murder.
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Uh, the cop baton that must have been inserted in Stites, because hey, Fennell used it in a sexual assault 11 years later.

Mr. Deez said:
When did I say that it did?
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Can't you read your own words when I use the quote function?

Mr. Deez said:
not the for Reed who has no burden
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Wait wut? Do you mean to say that in a criminal case the burden is on the state, or that in a civil suit on the plaintiff? Wow, thanks for the info. You won the interwebz
 
Taps, I honestly don't know what you are arguing at this point. If we are going to keep going, it would help if you would bullet point a few of your main arguments. What are you trying to convince us happened or should happen? Thanks.
 
Texas Taps said:
Here you go
http://www.michaelcorcoran.net/archives/3005
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Posting a link with no thoughts of your own to a request that your average third grader can fulfill shows that you have no interest in discussion, only trolling. I know that you are new to the WM so let me break down how things usually have gone around here for the past few years. We have conservative and liberal and everything in between. We have partisan hacks in there that only toe the party line. BUT, we don't have blatant trolls that post a million times on a thread without ever even attempting to articulate a point. I hope the mods take note and make post quality a priority over meaningless quantity. We have had some really good discussions over the years and people have actually changed their minds on issues (myself included). I would hate to lose that to trolls that have no intent to further a discussion.
 
Texas Taps said:
Uh, the cop baton that must have been inserted in Stites, because hey, Fennell used it in a sexual assault 11 years later.
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You rely on the same logic when you invoke the 12-year old girl.

Nevertheless, I'm not saying that. Like I've already said, I don't know if Fennell did it. He deserves the same presumption of innocence that anyone does. I'm only saying that the state hasn't proven any kind of case against Reed.

Can't you read your own words when I use the quote function?
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Yes, I can. You are full of ****. I didn't do what you said I did.

Wait wut? Do you mean to say that in a criminal case the burden is on the state, or that in a civil suit on the plaintiff? Wow, thanks for the info. You won the interwebz
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Both are true. In a criminal case, the state has the burden to prove the defendant to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In a civil case, the plaintiff has the burden to prove that the defendant is guilty usually (but not always) by a preponderance of the evidence (a much lower standard of proof than beyond a reasonable doubt). However, you do not understand how a burden of proof works, so it's a moot point.
 
Deez and Larry,

One of my favorite things about the new site is that you can block posters so that you don't see the crap they splooge. I blocked Texas Taps -- he's the only one so far, and may be the only one ever. Now, the only thing clogging up threads is your half of discussions with him. Would you PLEASE do us all a favor by blocking Texas Taps and never, ever responding to his posts?

Sincerely,

NJLonghorn
 
According to David Fisher, Corcoran is wrong. He says that there was no DNA evidence in the case of the 12 year old. (see comments to the Corcoran article.) I was unable to find independent confirmation of whether or not the claims of DNA evidence in that case, cited repeatedly in this thread actually exists.
 
NJlonghorn said:
Deez and Larry,

One of my favorite things about the new site is that you can block posters so that you don't see the crap they splooge. I blocked Texas Taps -- he's the only one so far, and may be the only one ever. Now, the only thing clogging up threads is your half of discussions with him. Would you PLEASE do us all a favor by blocking Texas Taps and never, ever responding to his posts?

Sincerely,

NJLonghorn
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NJ,

I didn't want to block him, because I don't like to hand down "death penalty sanctions" unless I'm completely certain that he's a troll rather than just a dumbass. However, I think it's pretty clear at this point that he's a troll, so he's blocked.
 
towersniper said:
According to David Fisher, Corcoran is wrong. He says that there was no DNA evidence in the case of the 12 year old. (see comments to the Corcoran article.) I was unable to find independent confirmation of whether or not the claims of DNA evidence in that case, cited repeatedly in this thread actually exists.
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I actually did see that, but I didn't raise the issue for two reasons. First, like you, I never found any independent confirmation one way or the other. Second, it's still not relevant to the underlying issue, so it didn't feel worthwhile to bring on an unwinnable pissing match on that point.
 
Mr. Deez said:
u rely on the same logic when you invoke the 12-year old girl.
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Exactly, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Is the 12 year old mentioned by the M.E.? What does a crime committed by Fennell 11 years after Stites murder have to do with Stites? BOOM!
 
NJlonghorn said:
Deez and Larry,

One of my favorite things about the new site is that you can block posters so that you don't see the crap they splooge. I blocked Texas Taps -- he's the only one so far, and may be the only one ever. Now, the only thing clogging up threads is your half of discussions with him. Would you PLEASE do us all a favor by blocking Texas Taps and never, ever responding to his posts?

Sincerely,

NJLonghorn
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You can't handle the truth. LOL
 
Enough. This has been addressed privately.

I'm not going to lock the thread because there may still be some reasoned conversation to be had on the topic.
 
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