Why are so many scientists dems and not republican

I think the evangelical voting bloc has indeed injected their values into the conversation and I am not comfortable with that despite my personal faith. As I mentioned the other day, I felt this was on horrible display during the Terri Schiavo episode. I am dismayed by creationism as this reflects a very, very conservative portion of the Christian community and not the view of the Catholic Church, the Episcopal Church, and host of other denominations.

That being said, I don't feel the the choice of John McCain or Mitt Romney as presidential candidates somehow legitimizes this view as a key plank of the Republican party. I don't think the House Leadership spends any time crafting policy to advance evangelical goals. I view this as politicians pandering to a voting bloc.
 
If you look at the last several Presidential nominees from both parties, I think it is safe to say that the Democrat party has moved much farther left than the Republican party has moved to the right. Obviously the Tea Party has been a dominant force over the last few years, but I believe that Barack Obama basically created that movement. Look at the nominees:

Mitt Romney (likely) moderate
John McCain - moderate
George W Bush - conservative but a spender
GWB
Bob Dole - pretty pragmatic
George Bush - Moderate

As opposed to:

Barack Obama - socialist tendencies
John Kerry - elite leftist
Al Gore - environmental wacko
Bill Clinton - Moderate
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Michael Dukakis - Liberal
 
DFWAg,

Thanks for the thoughtful response. I agree that the nomination of McCain & the coming nomination of Romney are centrist. I guess I would feel better if those nominations weren't so villified by significant numbers of Republicans.

I'm glad to see Romney gather the support he did. I'd rather the rank-and-file of the GOP didn't have such fascinations with Sarah Palin & Rick Perry. I'm conservative on some issues and liberal on others and I'm scared to death of the extreme right of the Republican Party. I suspect there are others like me that vote against anything GOP because of our distaste for a significant part of the Republican Party.

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I feel the same way about the "leaders" of the Democrat party such as Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden.

I know there are some good people in the party but I would not give you one nickel for any of these clowns.
 
It is quite clear to the most casual observer that the GOP has become more conservative in some areas, that's all I'm saying.

I'm saying nothing of degree of fervor, prod. Again, you seem to be misreading the text. I'm just saying that it is quite obvious that the GOP has become conservative in some areas.

One of them is abortion.

See? That wasn't so difficult.
 
Or you could argue that the Democratic party has become more permissive.


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There is more polarization but saying 9 out of 10 Republicans now not liking abortion under any circumstance versus 8 out of 10 is not really any big change.

As you can see here, Repubs have always been against it by a very clear margin.

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Gallup data linked here

Long Run Opinion Poll on Abortion
 
But I will grant that there is clearly a trend in more Rebublicans favoring a total ban on abortions. That is pretty clear from the data.
 
Care to address the other data-points? Should I have little or no hope that you will?

Seizing on that one point and ignoring the larger data-sets and positions directly addressing your point is more weak sauce.
 
Before you get even more lost in the thicket than you already are, prod, let me return the topic to my very precise point.

It was to showcase the absurdity of your comment:

I think you could probably argue that the GOP has gotten more conservative in some areas.

That's it. Nothing more. You're just not capable of going down the argumentative path that you want to go, I'm sorry to say. You're not aware of the distinction between "changing one's mind" vs. "becoming more entrenched in an already existing view".

So, have at the last word. I'm not going to get through to you.
 
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