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[caryhorn]

Bohls tweet: Herman said "you treat players like mature grownups."

If this is an accurate quote, then Herman's Mensa claims need to be checked. They might just be fake. Anyone who makes the effort to read brain research, or human development papers, or look into why young men are charged double for auto insurance until age 25, or read up on why the military wants their combat soldiers "young, dumb, and full of cumm" (i.e., immature, rash, overly aggressive, and mold-able) will quickly discover that the male brain doesn't mature until about age 25. That's when neurologically the brain is essentially complete.

Young men 18 to 22 are far from mature human beings. They are legally adults in a court of law, in the voting booth and in some other respects. If they have the money, they can buy pretty much what they want--enter into contracts.

Things they are not include: mature, and in possession of a fully developed brain.

 

[Horns11]

My issues are always more with the staff than individual players. When Davis and Boyd interfered on those relatively normal fades, I felt like "do we practice those? how often? isn't that something that we've done well at in the past?" You know, instead of all "BOOOOOOOOO!"

My bigger issue right now is what the hell Tom had to do at UH to encourage that buy-in. He never lost a home game there and somehow managed to gut punch the #3 teams in the nation twice right before he bolted for us. What is it about the student athletes in Austin that they don't have that kind of fight? Is it a lack of enthusiasm for their coordinators or position coaches? Is it that he could get away with more "stuff" at a midmajor conference and now the microscope is on him a bit more? I felt like his teams at UH (or even just his offenses for the 10 years before he became a HC) had more of a chill feel with nothing to lose. Now all we ever do is play "not to lose" like we're in slow motion. Even our WR screens look unenthusiastic, and that's compared to Greg Davis' WR screens.

I think Orlando will fix those damn sweep issues we had (lord what I wouldn't give to get Rondale Moore back) on the defensive side. But I will never be convinced about our QBs or offense until they don't look like they're playing at three-quarters speed.

 

[BabHorn]

Bohls tweet: Herman said "you treat players like mature grownups."

If this is an accurate quote, then Herman's Mensa claims need to be checked. They might just be fake. Anyone who makes the effort to read brain research, or human development papers, or look into why young men are charged double for auto insurance until age 25, or read up on why the military wants their combat soldiers "young, dumb, and full of cumm" (i.e., immature, rash, overly aggressive, and mold-able) will quickly discover that the male brain doesn't mature until about age 25. That's when neurologically the brain is essentially complete.

Young men 18 to 22 are far from mature human beings. They are legally adults in a court of law, in the voting booth and in some other respects. If they have the money, they can buy pretty much what they want--enter into contracts.

Things they are not include: mature, and in possession of a fully developed brain.

Well, that's not quite how I read it. He did say treat them like mature growups, not that they were.

Of course, I still disagree with his decisions to use Sam as a pocket passer instead of as a running QB which he is and with not using Ingram in the second half, especially in the fourth quarter. And why weren't runs being called when Maryland was only rushing two people in the fourth quarter? Why wasn't Sam running then?

 

[El Sapo]

What is it about the student athletes in Austin that they don't have that kind of fight? Is it a lack of enthusiasm for their coordinators or position coaches? I

I don't know maybe both but I do wonder about these things quite a bit because I feel like even though the years are going by I'm seeing us more or less field the same team every year. Feel like that watching Alabama, Clemson, and others too but unfortunately they're the flip side of us: consistency and winning.

The only thing I can really think of is that there's a culture problem at Texas. Bad coaching (yes, we've had that) but also complacency. Maybe it's all the hype and the coverage and the cameras everywhere... do players think they've 'made it' by getting to Texas even though that's actually where the real work truly begins? I don't know.

Do the coaches all of sudden forget how to do their jobs when they get here... or does the job give them an inflated sense of their abilities? Is the fear of failure in the face of the expectations stifling? I don't know but with the exception of a few bright spots, I've seen a revolving door of staff and too many under-performing years. Is it arrogance? I don't know... but I keep going back to the fact that something is definitely broken at a place that has everything. Maybe having everything is exactly what's wrong.

 

[Htown77]

Herman’s offensive coordinator at U of H was Major Applewhite. It is clear Major Applewhite was running the offense there and it made a huge difference. Whether or not Major is a good head coach remains to be seen, but it is clear he is a much better offensive coordinator than Tim Beck and Herman’s offenses seem lost without Major.

 

[ViperHorn]

My bigger issue right now is what the hell Tom had to do at UH to encourage that buy-in. He never lost a home game there and somehow managed to gut punch the #3 teams in the nation twice right before he bolted for us. What is it about the student athletes in Austin that they don't have that kind of fight? Is it a lack of enthusiasm for their coordinators or position coaches? Is it that he could get away with more "stuff" at a midmajor conference and now the microscope is on him a bit more? I felt like his teams at UH (or even just his offenses for the 10 years before he became a HC) had more of a chill feel with nothing to lose. Now all we ever do is play "not to lose" like we're in slow motion. Even our WR screens look unenthusiastic, and that's compared to Greg Davis' WR screens.

A little different coaching at a Group of 5 school and a big-time Power 5 school. With Strong and Herman Texas rolled the dice that the success at lower competition programs would translate. To paraphrase Maverick in Top Gun, the first one crashed and burned. The jury is still out on the second one, but unlike Maverick, it isn't looking good.

Herman’s offensive coordinator at U of H was Major Applewhite. It is clear Major Applewhite was running the offense there and it made a huge difference. Whether or not Major is a good head coach remains to be seen, but it is clear he is a much better offensive coordinator than Tim Beck and Herman’s offenses seem lost without Major.

A good point as Major's offense has some sense in it, but let's let Major "age" a couple of more seasons and then review.

 

[Htown77]

A good point as Major's offense has some sense in it, but let's let Major "age" a couple of more seasons and then review.

I am not calling for Major to be head coach. It is not yet certain whether he is good at that. However, many not so great head coaches are great coordinators (See Muschamp). Major only had one season as OC and did pretty good with Case McCoy, a QB he did not recruit and did not fit his system. He helped Texas to 8 wins, which is better than Strong or Herman so far. He had a winning record at Rice as OC. Finally, his offenses at U of H were better and different than anything Herman has had at Texas. Point being that his offenses have succeeded in a variety of situations with a variety of head coaches. Meanwhile, Herman’s offenses have struggled without Applewhite as OC.

 

[ShAArk92]

A good point as Major's offense has some sense in it, but let's let Major "age" a couple of more seasons and then review.

Darrel was 32 when we hired him to be HC. one or maybe two years HC at Washington before that?

Not saying Opie is Darrel, but age alone clearly isn't the determining factor. Opie is 40ish?

 

[NRHorn]

Bohls tweet: Herman said "you treat players like mature grownups."

If this is an accurate quote, then Herman's Mensa claims need to be checked. They might just be fake. Anyone who makes the effort to read brain research, or human development papers, or look into why young men are charged double for auto insurance until age 25, or read up on why the military wants their combat soldiers "young, dumb, and full of cumm" (i.e., immature, rash, overly aggressive, and mold-able) will quickly discover that the male brain doesn't mature until about age 25. That's when neurologically the brain is essentially complete.

Young men 18 to 22 are far from mature human beings. They are legally adults in a court of law, in the voting booth and in some other respects. If they have the money, they can buy pretty much what they want--enter into contracts.

Things they are not include: mature, and in possession of a fully developed brain.

Cary,
Yes. This is what I was trying to say.
Thanks for taking it to a higher level.
Folks I have kids at this age who work for me, and as shocking as this may be to a lot on this board their job is certainly more important than being a football player, I understand these are still “kids” and they need a ton of direction. They make dumb decisions, just like I did at 20.
They spend their time playing video games, going to bars in getting lit up, take things way too personally, lack confidence etc. so yeah I consider them kids and these kids need direction.

I also have people who are much older and I expect and Usually get more adult decisions from them.

 

[ViperHorn]

Darrel was 32 when we hired him to be HC. one or maybe two years HC at Washington before that?

Not saying Opie is Darrel, but age alone clearly isn't the determining factor. Opie is 40ish?

I could care less about age. My points were: (1) No more HC's from the Group of 5 schools as they are not ready for a program on the scale of Texas; and (2) Htown mentioned Major, and my point was Major's "system" seems to be well thought out (seemingly unlike Herman's), but Major needs more time (i.e. not the Texas HC until he has more experience hopefully at a lower Power 5 school first).

 

[Htown77]

(2) Htown mentioned Major, and my point was Major's "system" seems to be well thought out (seemingly unlike Herman's), but Major needs more time (i.e. not the Texas HC until he has more experience hopefully at a lower Power 5 school first).

I agree. He needs more time and to prove himself as HC. However, I would take him as OC and the systen he ran at U of H over Beck in a heartbeat. Like with Strong, Herman has bizarrely abandoned the offense that was successful at U of H and instead gone all in on the Urban Meyer offense that does not seem to work with our personnel.

 

[4th_floor]

In 17 years as a registered member here I've never been unduly critical of a player. Herman needs to wake up or move it on down the road.

Depends on your definition of unduly.

 

[4th_floor]

No one on here is booing the players. Yet at every game I've attended, going back to the late 70's. I've heard hysterical screaming after any 3 and out or opposition score. Glad y'all are not the ones doing that.

 

[I_Dont_Exist]

No one on here is booing the players. Yet at every game I've attended, going back to the late 70's. I've heard hysterical screaming after any 3 and out or opposition score. Glad y'all are not the ones doing that.

Happy to oblige. Not my fault Sam isn't the answer. Don't know Shane is either.

 

[Statalyzer]

Bohls tweet: Herman said "you treat players like mature grownups."
If this is an accurate quote, then Herman's Mensa claims need to be checked. They might just be fake

In general, our society errs on the side of treating young men adult too much like kids, much more often than we err on the reverse side.

Oh... ok... sorry about the memory issues. Just looked it up. Ash did play too but Case's stats were better.

Case played most of the time. Ash occasionally subbed in because Bryan Harsin was doing all sorts of stuff to keep the defense honest. We did a huge amount of weird formation shifts and misdirection (and generally executed the fakes really well), and although Case took the majority of snaps, Ash, Shipley, Fozzy, and Brown all took some as well.

Harsin's system did pretty well for us considering that even though we had a fair amount of talent depth at WR and RB, we had a poor OL and unproven QBs. Sound familiar? It hurts to think of how much better he'd do with this group we have now then what's actually been done with them.

Texas fans can be ridiculous (see Chiles should starts)

It's not as ridiculous without hindsight. Colt had 22 TDs and 18 picks his sophomore year. And he hadn't fully shown his ability as a runner yet until late in the year, at this point he was the "pocket passer" and Chiles the "mobile QB".

Really now we're facing two possibilities. One is that Garrett Gilbert, Case McCoy, David Ash, Tyrone Swoopes, Jerrod Heard, Shane Buechele, and Sam Ehlinger just unluckily all turned out to be really overrated and none of them had it to be a top QB for a solid D1 program, no matter the circumstances, Texas just went 0 for 7 and that's what held us back from being like we were before. The other is that something is wrong with the circumstances at Texas and until we get that fixed, we're gonna keep feeling like every QB who come through here is the problem and if we only had gotten a different guy instead....

 

[Htown77]

It's not as ridiculous without hindsight. Colt had 22 TDs and 18 picks his sophomore year. And he hadn't fully shown his ability as a runner yet until late in the year, at this point he was the "pocket passer" and Chiles the "mobile QB".

It was not initially ridiculous, but Chiles was pretty awful when he would come in (see the move to WR) and it became ridiculous pretty quick.

Ehlinger is better than Chiles ever was, BUT Chiles never started.

 

[RainH2burntO]

In general, our society errs on the side of treating young men adult too much like kids, much more often than we err on the reverse side.



Case played most of the time. Ash occasionally subbed in because Bryan Harsin was doing all sorts of stuff to keep the defense honest. We did a huge amount of weird formation shifts and misdirection (and generally executed the fakes really well), and although Case took the majority of snaps, Ash, Shipley, Fozzy, and Brown all took some as well.

Harsin's system did pretty well for us considering that even though we had a fair amount of talent depth at WR and RB, we had a poor OL and unproven QBs. Sound familiar? It hurts to think of how much better he'd do with this group we have now then what's actually been done with them.



It's not as ridiculous without hindsight. Colt had 22 TDs and 18 picks his sophomore year. And he hadn't fully shown his ability as a runner yet until late in the year, at this point he was the "pocket passer" and Chiles the "mobile QB".

Really now we're facing two possibilities. One is that Garrett Gilbert, Case McCoy, David Ash, Tyrone Swoopes, Jerrod Heard, Shane Buechele, and Sam Ehlinger just unluckily all turned out to be really overrated and none of them had it to be a top QB for a solid D1 program, no matter the circumstances, Texas just went 0 for 7 and that's what held us back from being like we were before. The other is that something is wrong with the circumstances at Texas and until we get that fixed, we're gonna keep feeling like every QB who come through here is the problem and if we only had gotten a different guy instead....

I personally do think something else is wrong...The question is can anyone agree on/identify it and will it be resolved. Perhaps all we are feeling is the pain that so often preceeds revelation.

And, yes, we raise very immature young adults these days.

Good post