Where does Herman end up next year?

[Sangre Naranjada]

Why not just hire the binder. It would be cheaper and have a better personality.

Savage!

 

[LonghornCatholic]

Someday, somewhere, he may just get bronze binder erected in his honor in front of a stadium.

 

[zuckercanyon]

Someday, somewhere, he may just get bronze binder erected in his honor in front of a stadium.

you said 'erected'

 

[NJlonghorn]

blue bloods like Texas, OU, Alabama, FSU, etc. National champions and lots of history.

I agree with your broader point, but it's a huge stretch to put FSU in the "blue bloods" list. Florida State barely had a football program at all until the 1970s. While their track record since then has been solid, you can't be "blue blood" without a longer pedigree.

Next are the ones a step back from that, but still have had good seasons and history - OSU, Mich State, UCLA, etc.

I'm not sure whether you are putting Ohio State or Oklahoma State as "one step back", but neither belongs there. Most would say that Ohio State is even more "blue blood" than Texas and OU are. Personally, I'd put them at #2 behind Alabama. They are certainly way, way higher on the list than FSU.

In contrast, Oklahoma State is more than just one step back. They have a single championship in the Big 12 and another one in the Big 8. Before that, they cleaned up a bunch of championships in the Missouri Valley Conference. The other teams you have listed in that tier have much deeper pedigrees. Michigan State has won 9 Big 10 championships since 1953, including one every decade other than the 2000s, while UCLA has won the Pac 8 / Pac 10 championship 8 times and was a force in the PCC dating back to the 1930s.

 

[Duck Dodgers]

There are always different options about classifications for teams - I'd call FSU a blue blood from their 3 national championships since the early 90's, and all the powerhouse teams under Bowden, plus several Heisman winners. But yes, they don't have a history going back to the black and white TV days, or anything beyond when Bowden arrived.

On the other spectrum, I'd call Penn State a blue blood, while not winning an NC since, what, 88? So blue blood can either be based on historical wins, or more current success, and it's all subjective at the ends.

OSU was Ok State. I'd call them mid tier, which is more or less everyone else who's not either blue blood, or a bottom feeder like Kansas, Vandy, Duke, etc. Even the bottom tier can have good seasons every once and awhile, usually under a certain coach who then moves onto better things, and they drop off to their lower status.

Mid-tier is a broader grouping, so it'll have both teams that have been decent lately like Ok State, with other teams like UCLA who have done more through history, but little lately.

Point was, I don't see Herman either coaching at a blue blood, nor a bottom feeder when he gets back into coaching, but a team in the wide middle.

 

[EDT]

Mack Brown might hire Tom as an analyst with specific instructions to stay away from anything to do with recruiting.

Would Mack put him in charge of kissing the players or checking their pee?

 

[Duck Dodgers]

Hopefully not both at the same time!

 

[NJlonghorn]

There are always different options about classifications for teams - I'd call FSU a blue blood from their 3 national championships since the early 90's, and all the powerhouse teams under Bowden, plus several Heisman winners. But yes, they don't have a history going back to the black and white TV days, or anything beyond when Bowden arrived.

On the other spectrum, I'd call Penn State a blue blood, while not winning an NC since, what, 88? So blue blood can either be based on historical wins, or more current success, and it's all subjective at the ends.

OSU was Ok State. I'd call them mid tier, which is more or less everyone else who's not either blue blood, or a bottom feeder like Kansas, Vandy, Duke, etc. Even the bottom tier can have good seasons every once and awhile, usually under a certain coach who then moves onto better things, and they drop off to their lower status.

Mid-tier is a broader grouping, so it'll have both teams that have been decent lately like Ok State, with other teams like UCLA who have done more through history, but little lately.

Point was, I don't see Herman either coaching at a blue blood, nor a bottom feeder when he gets back into coaching, but a team in the wide middle.

Fair enough. I think of blue bloods as long-established prominent families, like Rockefeller or Kennedy. FSU isn’t in that class. But if you are including relatively recent success stories like Gates or Clinton as a blue blood, then sure, FSU fits in.

 

[SabreHorn]

I'll play - B & D