What does Obama stand for?

[DigglerontheHoof]

Same here, I'm as cynical as they come with regards to politics but I still hold my nose and vote.

I just don't understand how people get so passionate about "their guy". "Their guy" is the same as the "other guy".

The Who had is right "meet the new boss, same as the old boss".

 

[D-mack01grad]

Segments of the voting population will always be conditioned towards cynicism.

Ya'll probably don't believe in Sandy Claus or "Ears" the Easter rabbit either.

 

[Oilfield]

The bottom line on Obama's plans:

Lots of free stuff and tax credits too. I'm on board! Sounds great!

Free heathcare, free childcare, free college. It is going to be great.

 

[stabone]

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[triplehorn]

I could take any criticism of Obama's spending plans seriously if it were offset by an account of what Bush is burning in defense and war spending, and by all accounts what every single GOP candidate save Paul is committed to continuing. Bush's allocation for the military in FY2009 alone is off the charts, but it's actually worse than that: In reply to:

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[Texclerk]

I must say, triple, that I agree with you thoughts about Bush's spending. However, based on your first reply, if someone like you supports Obama that gives me a reason to think I should not.

 

[SDhorn]

Texclerk:

So your question is not what he stands for because you at least now suggest that you have read what he stands for which is included in detail on his website.

Apparently, your question is how he will accomplish what he stands for.

If you listen to his speeches, he states that it will be very very difficult and that it is up to us to help him make the changes. Of course he was told that there was no way he could beat Hillary, which is still up in the air.

He intends to use his oratorical skills to get us to rise off our asses and demand a better performance from Congress and to demand a different government that is not run by the lobbyists.

Will he succeed? He has succeeded in getting many more people off their asses than I have seen during my years as a grass roots activist. He certainly has gotten young people off of their asses to go and vote and to work on his campaign. And he has refused to accept PAC or Washington lobbyist money to fund his campaign.

When as President, he proposes sweeping changes to restrict lobbyist influence in Washington, there will be a very effective and well financed opposition waiting for him. He will lose unless the 70-80% who do not approve of Congress get off their butts to support the sweeping changes.

Will we win? Maybe not because most of us will not get off of our asses. But at least he will try and even if he does not achieve sweeping reforms, he will be working in the right direction.

But if you are happy with the government today, then both Hillary and McCain are good safe choices.

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[triplehorn]

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[Texclerk]

That would not bother me at all. I have enough friends who suffer from the exact same illness.

Even my mom and mother-in-law who I still love and respect.

It is the attitude, not the political belief, that rubs me the wrong way.
As for what he stands for, I think the means to achieve the ends are more indicative of what he stands for than a bunch of "we will unite this county in a movement for change that will be difficult. We need to look to the future not the past. Think about tomorrow, not worry about yesterday." Sounds great, but makes me want to puke.

I can stand up in front of a bunch of people and talk about how we need change. We need real medical care for those with mental illness - not jails and emergency rooms. We need real education for those who start our behind becuase of economics, race, nationality, geographical location, etc. We need to provide all people with an equal opportunity to achieve the sucess we dream of as Americans. We need to change the way government does business so that it serves the people rather than oppresses the people. I make myself want to puke.

 

[MaduroUTMB]

Obama is going to come close to Bush in terms of being hated by 2011. Well, maybe not that bad, but he's going to have some animosity directed against him. When his four years come up (not certain but probable), people will say "He was a good guy, and he got us out of Iraq."

His stance on the war will get him into the White House, but beyond that I doubt he will be more adept at making policy than our current president. At least he won't sack out civil liberties or lie to us as much.

 

[triplehorn]

Texclerk - Take a look, it's not just me who finds the subject and tone of your original post redundant and a little tiresome. Go back and read the first page. I wasn't the only one reacting to it. Others made the effort to repost links and posts that have been made repeatedly on this matter already. Before acting like I'm raising your hackles for no reason, try taking a little time to examine your own new thread first.

You stumbled into some bad timing, that is all.

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[zzzz]

The first (only?) federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor:
"Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act"

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[Mister Falcon]

he'll make all your wildest dreams come true. the garbage men will clean your house.