Well, it was nice while it lasted...

horninchicago said:
Are you a Marine? I ask because if I have inadvertently insulted you over the years, please do not kill me from behind your keyboard.

Damnit, this probably did it.

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Yes.
Funny man, no not insulted by you regarding any USMC comments.
I shan’t comment on non Marine comments however.
 
Give this guy a call.

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Chop said:
Beard said he had audio recordings of the incident that showed he wasn’t the “primary aggressor,” per court documents. When asked if he’d share those recordings with law enforcement, he declined."
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I have no idea what actually went down and whether or not Beard is guilty as hell. None of us do.

From what we’ve been told so far, it’s hard to argue otherwise. And frankly, my guess is that his career at Texas is all but over. Having said that, these observations may open me up to ridicule.

My take is that the domestic violence laws in most states are structured to err to the side of the abused, usually a female. And I understand why. THEY SHOULD BE so structured. In the majority of the cases— the vast majority, they are indeed the victims. It’s terrible.

But let’s not forget about Due Process to which, supposedly, we are all entitled. If an accusation and a call is made, the dude is toast. Period. There is an assumption of guilt, not innocence.

Of course, if what she is claiming and what she shared with the police is fully accurate and “in context,” there’s not much to debate. I just hope and pray that I am never in a situation where someone becomes completely illogical, out of control, and attacks me. I don’t know what I would do, but just walking away — if someone is physically beating me, screaming uncontrollably and acting in a very threatening manner — would be very challenging. (NOT saying that is what happened. Just making the observation.)

Let’s just hope that the truth and the full story comes out, and soon. However, that is very unlikely. And I’ll say it again; From what we have read, it does appear that Beard is guilty as hell.

And finally, if I was in possession of a recording that captured the incident and could “potentially” exonerate me, there is no way on earth that I would turn it over to the police.
 
dukesteer said:
I have no idea what actually went down and whether or not Beard is guilty as hell. None of us do.

From what we’ve been told so far, it’s hard to argue otherwise. And frankly, my guess is that his career at Texas is all but over. Having said that, these observations may open me up to ridicule.

My take is that the domestic violence laws in most states are structured to err to the side of the abused, usually a female. And I understand why. THEY SHOULD BE so structured. In the majority of the cases— the vast majority, they are indeed the victims. It’s terrible.

But let’s not forget about Due Process to which, supposedly, we are all entitled. If an accusation and a call is made, the dude is toast. Period. There is an assumption of guilt, not innocence.

Of course, if what she is claiming and what she shared with the police is fully accurate and “in context,” there’s not much to debate. I just hope and pray that I am never in a situation where someone becomes completely illogical, out of control, and attacks me. I don’t know what I would do, but just walking away — if someone is physically beating me, screaming uncontrollably and acting in a very threatening manner — would be very challenging. (NOT saying that is what happened. Just making the observation.)

Let’s just hope that the truth and the full story comes out, and soon. However, that is very unlikely. And I’ll say it again; From what we have read, it does appear that Beard is guilty as hell.

And finally, if I was in possession of a recording that captured the incident and could “potentially” exonerate me, there is no way on earth that I would turn it over to the police.
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Could the audio be recording comments she made after the fact, sort of admitting it was her fault and she started it, but it had some not as good sound bites like, “you just took it too far,” or whatever, and he needs to get lawyers to say whether it actually helps?
 
IMO, law will say, doesn't matter if she "started it" and was violent. If Beard didn't diffuse and responded violently, then he is likely to be found guilty.

Until then., 100% agree, innocent, until found guilty.

HOWEVER, a LOT of negative smoke from this Chris Beard fire at this point.

Unexpectedly, CDC has these hot coals dropped in his lap.....
 
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Unless this woman was wielding a hatchet or the like, this dude is 6'6" and I'm guessing well over 200 pounds. He couldn't fend her off without all the accused actions?

Please. The posting guidelines prohibit me from expressing what ought to happen to someone like him if this is all true.
 
BLucky said:
No judgement from me at this time...The arrest record is damning...talks about physical evidence (bite mark, contusion, etc) on the victim. We'll see what happens.
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What was reported is damning is
BUT--
keep in mind a police report is written AFTER an arrest has been made and for the purpose of SUPPORTING the arrest decision. It may be factual but the tone of presentation will also be designed to support the arrest decision. I have never seen an arrest report listing the things the arrestee did properly.

Many states require an arrest if there is evidence of an injury. Rather than try to decide who was the aggressor/who was defending--- it is much easier to just 'take him in and let the court sort it out'-- except careers are at stake and both sides often lie to the cops.

It is possible Chris was totally in the wrong and at the same time many mad women know how to play the system and make the guy look wrong, when in fact, he was defending himself.
 
It's a terrible situation. In a court of law, of course he's entitled to an assumption of innocence. But as a head coach at the University of Texas, public perception is important. I don't see how he could continue coaching whatever happens. He doesn't have a job where he can just sit in an office designing plays until people forget about it or move on to the next scandal. Success in his job is dependent upon convincing elite athletes (who have lots of choices) and their parents that the University of Texas is the best place to develop to become a better player and a better person, and upon promoting the program in a positive way. I think his ability to do that has been damaged beyond repair. Is his indefinite suspension without pay enough to protect the reputation of the University and the other sports?
 
STHAustin said:
It's a terrible situation. In a court of law, of course he's entitled to an assumption of innocence. But as a head coach at the University of Texas, public perception is important. I don't see how he could continue coaching whatever happens. He doesn't have a job where he can just sit in an office designing plays until people forget about it or move on to the next scandal. Success in his job is dependent upon convincing elite athletes (who have lots of choices) and their parents that the University of Texas is the best place to develop to become a better player and a better person, and upon promoting the program in a positive way. I think his ability to do that has been damaged beyond repair. Is his indefinite suspension without pay enough to protect the reputation of the University and the other sports?
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This. He cannot overcome the perception at this point. As a public figure where one molds young men, hes already done. Its finished.
 
I certainly don't accept the police report as being accurate. I've been there myself. Twice a victim that required a police report and in both cases the report was no where near accurate to what I told them. And I certainly have no confidence in the APD getting anything correct. But if her injuries are documented with pictures he's done, even if the charges are dropped.
 
STHAustin said:
Success in his job is dependent upon convincing elite athletes (who have lots of choices) and their parents that the University of Texas is the best place to develop to become a better player and a better person, and upon promoting the program in a positive way. I think his ability to do that has been damaged beyond repair.
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Key point - even if he is found "Not guilty," his rep will be "damaged beyond repair" - and with it, his ability to recruit and coach.
 
I was hoping the DWI would get Augie canned and the “other” would remain quiet. While those involved forgave, I could never get past it.
 
HornHuskerDad said:
Key point - even if he is found "Not guilty," his rep will be "damaged beyond repair" - and with it, his ability to recruit and coach.
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While you’re probably correct, I would never underestimate the capacity of the public to forgive and not necessarily forget, but to look the other way. Reputations can be rehabilitated.

Exhibit A: Steve Sarkisian. And his transgression was out there for everyone to see.
 
Badass said:
Pretty sure felony assault would have pictures … can’t spin this sabre .. bad look
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In my professional capacity, prior to retirement, I had frequent contact with couples who were referred to me who needed help dealing with domestic violence issues. On one occasion a woman admitted to me that she inflicted (hitting herself, etc.) her wounds which showed up as abrasions and bruises. She told the police who arrived awhile after the blowup that her husband had abused her, which caused the wounds. He was arrested.
This is unusual but not unheard of.

One does wonder what Beard’s complainant would have looked like if police would have seen her right as she walked out the door.
 
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While those involved forgave, I could never get past it.
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Yeah, me neither. I was out on Augie after that. His story about how this was a one-time thing was such a bunch of BS. *I* saw him drinking on 6th street years before that and I go down there about once a year, if that.
 
Chop said:
The woman attributed a bite mark on her right forearm
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What man bites a woman unless she has a painful death grip on something and he's trying to get her to release? He doesn't seem to me like the kind of guy who would just bite a woman.
 
Vol Horn 4 Life said:
What man bites a woman unless she has a painful death grip on something and he's trying to get her to release? He doesn't seem to me like the kind of guy who would just bite a woman.
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Are we prepared to accept with 100% certainty that indeed he bit her?

PS. Anyone ever heard of bite marks associated with sex? Marv Albert might have an opinion on that:

Marv Albert Was Accused of Wearing Women's Underwear and Biting a Woman in Kinky 1997 Sex Case

(Not taking sides BTW.)
 
In Augies defense, he can't go to 6th St anymore, and concerning biting, I feel like this could have been a scene from Wolf of Wallstreet.
 
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