Week 3 of College Football

Ou's defense in 2004 was awesome. I don't see how anyone could argue against this.

Who the hell hold Texas and Texas Tech to 13 combined points?????
 
A barrage of turnovers is part of what makes one team better than the other!

That said, you can overcome them if you outplay the other team in other facets of the game. We were up 23-22 on the road against a top 5 (finished the season in the top 5) team in 2005 despite giving up 3 turnovers and forcing none at that point, because our defense held. OU's defense didn't hold that game and it didn't really seem to make a difference if USC got the ball on the OU 1 after a turnover or on their own 1 after a punt or anywhere in-between.
 
USC killed us. We were completely out coached AND made some bonehead play(s).

but i have to agree with txsooner. do you think if we played the 65-13 game 10 times, texas would have been clobbered like that in every game? absolutely not. they were 30 points better than us that night, just like WV was 30 points better than us in the fiesta.

but that doesn't mean we couldn't whup the **** out of WV if we played again.
 
So far USC is clearly in a class all by themselves. The stomping of Ohio State was thorough in every aspect of the game. Zero U, Georgia, and Missouri are probably next in the pecking order, but IMO none of those teams could beat USC as of this week - things could change.

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OK, Laphroaig, you have semi-addressed the question about OU's offense, they are just terrible turnover machines. Still waiting on their D that year. They held Tech and Texas to 13 combined points, 7 of which were a TD with 4:00 to go in a 28-6 game. Their defense was clearly one of the tops in the country going into the Orange Bowl.

USC hadn't scored more than fifty points ALL SEASON. So you are saying your argument is that, rather than OU playing WELL below their capability that night, is that OU was the WORST defense USC played all season in 04? Worse than 1-10 Washington? Worse than 3-8 Arizona, 4-7 Stanford, 4-7 Colorado State, 6-6 Notre Dame, 6-6 UCLA, 6-6 Oregon?

Please.

And you never answered how if OSU had a garbage offense, how they hung 35 in the first half at DKR?

BTW, here is the drive summary of OU/SC:

USC 4 and out, 23 yards
OU 12 plays, 92 yards, TD
USC 6 plays, 75 yards, TD
OU 3 and out, 7 yards
USC 4 and out, 11 yards

BRADLEY MUFFED PUNT

USC 1 play, 6 yards, TD
OU 5 plays, 34 yards, INT
USC 6 plays, 89 yards, 54 yard TD
OU 3 plays, 7 yards, INT
USC 3 plays, 10 yards, TD
OU 12 plays, 77 yards, FG (HATE kicking this BTW)
USC 4 plays, 77 yards, TD

OK, you really don't see any diff in the game pre and post-Bradley fumble? I'm not saying OU wins the game. I am saying we wer both moving the ball and stopping them. USC had 3 scoring drives under 10 yards in the first half. That is not going to happen very often, regardless of who you are playing.

I can buy that you saw the 19 for OU coming, but no way you could see the 55 for USC, b/c there was no evidence for it until it happened.
 
55 was more than I was expecting. I was thinking 41-14 or something along those lines. When you turn the football over a lot, it makes it easier for the other team to score points.

OU's athletes are a lot better than Tech's. The 13 wasn't shocking. They got up for the Texas game and played well against the only decent team they played all regular season, and deserve credit. 70 points in two weeks told me all I needed to know about OU though.
 
That 'garbage' OSU offense was 17th in the nation in scoring in 04. That junk OU D held the #8 and 12 scoring offenses to 13 points, 7 in garbage time. USC averaged 2 points more a game than Tech did in 04, against an arguably easier schedule.

Look, OU lost the game. They made mistakes, and responded horribly. It's just LOL when people act like it was preordained that the game would be a 5 TD margin.

BTW, OU was 11th that year in scoring D, even with two 35s and a 55 on there, so they must have been doing something right.
 
TXSooner,

Clearly, he isn't going to change his mind and you aren't going to alter your opinion, either. I think most national observers would agree with OU fans that the margin of victory in that abortion of a game was inflated quite a bit by OU's sloppy play.

To assume a series of 100 meetings between the same 2 teams would result in a median 36-point difference is an effort wholly-based in ignorance. As the series moved along, it is assuredly true that the 2 teams would begin to better anticipate pretty much everything the other team could/would do. If anything, the margin of victory would trend downward. The only variant at that point would be a real versus perceived talent differential between the 2 squads. Based on what I saw of those teams during the year (and during the game itself) I'd say USC would hold an advantage along the lines of 10-14 points. OU would've won a number of the meetings, but USC was the better team.
 
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I can't believe we baited the sooners into discussing in depth, the Orange Bowl debacle... perhaps the biggest beat down in title game history in college football.

Well played gentlemen.. now.. go bait your hooks for the next go round.
 
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