Was Tucker Carlson fired for Political Expedience?

Mr. Deez said:
He acted like he believed something on the air about Dominion and Sidney Powell and then said it was BS in private communications. Same with Lou Dobbs. It's what got Fox into trouble.
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From what I've read Tucker didn't act like he believed it. Lou Dobbs did believe it.
 
Mr. Deez, I'm not doubting you but is Discovery in this case public record? Is there a link? I am one of those curious folks. You can take that last sentence in different ways.
 
Since Tucker's private messages show he did not think Dominion affected the elections but said during his show Dominion could have affected the elections. Did Fox management tell Tucker to espouse that view?
 
Forbes reported that his ad revenues dropped by over 40 per cent in a two year period

the way he was going he was going to be selling pillows, EDS elixirs and Scholls foot remedies in another year or so

Fox is doing a makeover. Lawsuits are expensive even if you win. The National Enquirer reformed itself so Murdoch can do it too
 
I used to handle defamation cases and they are stunningly expensive for all sides. Evidence you knowingly lied overcomes the legal protections afforded to the media. He/they knew it
 
While the exam of the machine/software is thin (each side should have been represented), there is a point when the legal expense money dries up. Happens every day.
 
Crockett said:
Dominion lawsuit disclosures. I'll provide links when I have time.
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Actually no need for me to link. Just do a web search with the terms Carlson , Dominion, and email disclosure. Then you can choose the media you choose to believe. How many Fox viewers , just after the election, would have tolerated news from a source that openly admitted thinking the election fraud allegations were the work of wacky, unhinged liars?
 
I still do not believe that Biden won, fair and square. Despite the Dominion machines, look at ballot harvesting - someone shows up and takes your ballot - does it get counted? Poll watchers being sent home while ballots are counted. Not just Fox. Does this make sense to anyone?

I never called anyone a liar; I just want to trust the election results no matter who wins. That is democracy.
 
Biden won because Trump could not get enough independent or college-educated women votes.

Democrats outnumber Republicans so those two groups are critical if Republicans hope to win any national vote.
 
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Horn6721 said:
Since Tucker's private messages show he did not think Dominion affected the elections but said during his show Dominion could have affected the elections. Did Fox management tell Tucker to espouse that view?
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They don't have to for the same reason the CEO of Walmart doesn't have to tell its truck driver to rear end someone for Walmart to be liable if its truck driver rear ends someone.
 
utahorn said:
Mr. Deez, I'm not doubting you but is Discovery in this case public record? Is there a link? I am one of those curious folks. You can take that last sentence in different ways.
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I have not personally seen the discovery responses in the case. However, they are quoted in numerous media outlets. A simple Google search will show them. Does that mean I believe everything I see in them media? No, but if the defendants just paid almost $800M to settle a lawsuit in light of the discovery responses, I presume that they're legitimate.
 
utahorn said:
I still do not believe that Biden won, fair and square. Despite the Dominion machines, look at ballot harvesting - someone shows up and takes your ballot - does it get counted? Poll watchers being sent home while ballots are counted. Not just Fox. Does this make sense to anyone?

I never called anyone a liar; I just want to trust the election results no matter who wins. That is democracy.
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No Democrat on my lifetime has won fair and square, because the media has always carried their water and let them deceive without challenging them. In fact, they largely reinforce their deceptions. It started during the New Deal and has only gotten more brazen over the years, and at this point, it's basically a joke. Is the New York Times really less partisan than Pravda or the Völkischer Beobachter? Not much.

Do I trust voting by mail? No. Would it be easy to cheat in big numbers? No. Would it be easy to cheat in small numbers (close elections)? Yes. And if cheating occurred, it would be extremely hard to catch. Ballot harvesting only aggravates that problem.

But none of that is the same as rigged machines, which is the claim at issue in the lawsuit.
 
Watching NewsMax this morning. The current show is very good and no watching anchors put aprons on. Unfortunately they are running Pillow ads. :whiteflag:
 
Mr. Deez said:
No, but if the defendants just paid almost $800M to settle a lawsuit in light of the discovery responses, I presume that they're legitimate.
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Well, when you have a judge that basically handed the decision to Dominion you're pretty much forced to settle. This wasn't exactly handed fairly.
 
From several different sources (including today's WSJ) the issue with Carlson was his emails criticizing his employer and calling a staff member a c**t.
 
I’m sure all attorneys on WM experience it on a regular basis, but I once got to read emails, texts and instant messages on a healthcare case as an expert witness. It involved a company I previously worked for and I knew many of the people writing those messages. I could not believe how stupid people could be and I could not believe I was being paid to read it.
 
Garmel said:
Well, when you have a judge that basically handed the decision to Dominion you're pretty much forced to settle. This wasn't exactly handed fairly.
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Again, I need more information to judge that. For example, you think the machines should have been inspected. Maybe so, but I can think of a plausible scenario in which that wouldn't be correct.

For example, is Fox standing by the defamatory statements and claiming them to be truthful? If they are, then yes, I'd say it's unfair to deny them at least some kind of access to the machines, and that's something that could likely be cured by an appellate court. I wouldn't just write out a $700M+ check without pushing the matter further. I'd appeal the ruling first.

However, if Fox isn't claiming the statements to be true, then Dominion is going to be able to argue pretty solidly that the machines are outside the scope of discovery on the basis of relevance and trade secrets.

I'd have to see Fox's pleadings to make that call.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Again, I need more information to judge that. For example, you think the machines should have been inspected. Maybe so, but I can think of a plausible scenario in which that wouldn't be correct.

For example, is Fox standing by the defamatory statements and claiming them to be truthful? If they are, then yes, I'd say it's unfair to deny them at least some kind of access to the machines, and that's something that could likely be cured by an appellate court. I wouldn't just write out a $700M+ check without pushing the matter further. I'd appeal the ruling first.

However, if Fox isn't claiming the statements to be true, then Dominion is going to be able to argue pretty solidly that the machines are outside the scope of discovery on the basis of relevance and trade secrets.

I'd have to see Fox's pleadings to make that call.
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It's beyond the discovery. The judge had no business putting his opinion in to whether Fox lied or not. That's the jury's job. He poisoned the well. He said everything Fox said was a lie which is absolutely not true.

This is what Fox showed the court. This is NOT a lie. Even Dominion admitted themselves the machines are effed up. HUGE: FOX News Filing Shows DOMINION Voting Systems Executives Including Eric Coomer Knew Its Voting Systems Had Major Security Issues, Was Hacked, and Was "Riddled with Bugs" | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft
 
NewsMax is hammering Fox like Yeungling hammering BudLight. Just showing that management’s decision to settle for $787 million to avoid a potential $1.5 billion verdict then firing Carlson has cost them $2 billion so far.
 
Thanks Mona, the shows of his my wife got me to watch were jaw droppers. Like Beck, Kelly, and O’Rielly (and someone else I cannot remember) I saw a few of their shows which made me comment they better have a security detail. They were all canned - yeah I know O’Reilly included other reasons but you can only buck the system so much. Like I contend we are on the precipice- maybe beyond.
 
ViperHorn said:
From several different sources (including today's WSJ) the issue with Carlson was his emails criticizing his employer and calling a staff member a c**t.
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Saw and heard megyn Kelly's podcast last night with Victor d Hansen. She called ******** on this. Until sources become public I'll agree with her
 
Horn2, it fits what any publically traded company would do. There were others who pushed the theory who didn't get fired so there was some else. Could also have been high salary and falling viewership.
 
Horn6721 said:
Vipe
Do you sincerely believe Biden got 81 million votes?
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He got more votes than Trump and will get even more votes in 2024 if Trump runs due to the constant beating Trump gets from the media and the political elite.

All we can hope for is somehow holding the House and taking the Senate. Otherwise, the country will be lost.
 
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