Valerie Plame's Husband - Obama Weak on FP

Joe Wilson is a longtime Clinton-ite so this isn't a surprise. How much would you wager that the Clinton campaign asked him to write the piece?
 
Well that fool is right about one thing: McCain vs Obama is a knockout. What he got wrong is that it is McCain who is getting knocked out by Obama in the nationwide polling.

WTF does this guy even keep up with current events? The fact that he cites the national McCain vs Obama polls and YET DOESNT KNOW THE RESULTS is just shocking.

BTW, he posted his email at hte bottom: [email protected]

shoot this guy an email and correct him of his dumbassery
 
Joe Wilson was Special Assistant to U.S. President Bill Clinton and later served as Senior Director for African Affairs on the United States National Security Council under President Clinton.
 
Wilson lined up behind Clinton many months ago. I agree witht the above poster that this was probably solicited. Why the hell not? Joe Wilson can endorse Hillary Clinton, speak to her foreign policy experience, and still have my respect even if I think Obama would make a better all around president.

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she is respected by our military
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Actually, she is despised by just about everyone in the armed forces.
 
I'm unaware of Wilson's or Plame's efforts to gain attention just for the sake of gaining attention.

I am aware of administration adherents (not that Macanudo is one) saying that hoping to diminish them as the shameful story of the outing of Plame and the cover-up slowly seeped from the septic White House.

They've written books, Wilson responded righteously to the actions of the White House. I don't get that they're attention whores.

ps I anxiously await washpark's next "nuanced" thread. They're usually way too subtle for me, but I like trying to understand them in all of their many levels and shades. Of course, one "nuance" is ever present.
 
Joe Wilson is a career diplomat, with all of the grandiosity which comes with that. If that is a turn off, so be it. But I find it hard to dispute almost anything he, or his wife have said.

What I keep coming back to is that Joe Wilson was not the only american sent to Niger to investigate the yellowcake rumor, but even if he was... he was more than qualified to make that trip. He was a diplomat who served both in Niger and Iraq, and had many direct contacts with the people who could verify the claim. Joe Wilson was the right man for that trip. Valerie Wilson, was agent of the CIA attached to a special group who's sole function was to track nuclear proliferation. If there were any two people in the US fit to investigate the yellow cake intelligence, it was these two. None of the individual's or intelligence agencies who investigated the claim of Saddam's attempt to purchase yellow cake from Niger came to a conclusion that was different than Joe Wilson's. The original intelligence didn't bear the slightest amount of scrutiny.

So what are we left with? The President said 16 words in the state of the union which he either knew to be incorrect, or that he didn't care enough to investigate. When a person who DID investigate the situation called him on it, the White House manufactured a story about nepotism to in an attempt to discredit him, which also served to end the career of near 20 year veteran of the CIA.

Is what the Wilson's said or did unseemly? Sure a case can be made for that. Is what the Wilson's said incorrect?... I've heard absolutely no evidence to suggest that it was.
 
My quote was not in reference to your original one, wash. Sorry. I was speaking to Wilson's credibility.

That said, he may very well be right about Obama. He is giving his opinion regarding something which remains to be seen. If Obama wins, it is history which would prove Wilson right or wrong.
 
Wilson is credible, but I'm not sure you could say he is definitive... particularly on an issue like this. It was just an opinion. If you are saying that because Wilson is politically active that means his opinion isn't credible, so be it. That said, I think that standard discredits a great many of the primary sources.

As to the "yellowcake revelations" as you put it... wow, I'm starting to question your credibility now, as that is some particularly interesting revisionist history. Wilson wasn't the one who made the "yellowcake revelation", George W Bush was. Bush's statements were made on the nation's largest stage in an effort to make a case for a coming war. Bush put yellowcake "on the table", and he did so either knowly telling a falsehood, or from a position of ignorance which would be hard to defend by the most biased pundit. Bush originated the issue and he choose the timing... but then we aren't discussing his credibility are we?
 
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