The Trump Press Conference

[Joe Fan]

...But, in any event, I think everyone on the planet by now knows CNN reports crap all the time. They are like a giant septic tank full it. Ratings suggest the majority agrees with me on this. .....

 

[Phil Elliott]

Neither Smith nor Kelly are left. They're center-right.

So Trump is now hard-right? When did that happen? Didn't you call him out as "not a true conservative"?

 

[Seattle Husker]

Smith went off on Trump's electoral margin comment. Trump said he was referring to modern R candidates (in other words, Romney, McCain, W, Dole and HW). Shep left this qualification out. Why did he do that? (hint: there is an answer to that question, it is not rhetorical)

Trump said "electoral college victory" then you point out the losers? He's stated this alternate fact on multiple occasions and only today did he say "Republican". At best, Trump is trying to be purposely ambiguous.

Shep said Russia "hacked the election." This is not factually correct (which is sometimes known as a lie). What it also is, is a liberal narrative. One of the ways the modern media works is that they set a narrative and then ignore facts contrary to their narrative or bend facts to fit that narrative. They "backdoor it." This is what Smith is doing here. But this, of course, is not how honest journalists work.

He also said "at the time the Russians were hacking the election .... your guys were on the phones with the Russians" Again, this something not proven, compounding the false premise. While it may some day turn out to be true, Smith has no way to know that as of today. In typically bad form for him, he simply assumes the liberal narrative is true. Yes, it is true that there have been many media accounts making this same claim (as fact) but media accounts are not facts.

Notice the language Joe Fan uses over an over which is not factually correct. He continuously writes "Hacking the election" when in fact Shep Smith said over and over "Hacking the DNC" and "Hacking the opposition" in that clip. Why do you think he does this? Because NOBODY is saying the actual election was hacked. In fact, Obama and others have said that the sanctity of our voting machines are intact. Why use this language? It allows him to continuously pivot away from the evidence of the DNC hacking and the proximity of Trump's campaign team to Russia/Wikileaks (see Flynn, Stone, etc). They juxtapose "hacking the election" with "hacking the DNC" to influence the election.

Oh, and our intelligence agencies are saying without a doubt that Russia was involved in the hack. Aside from declassifying the information, it's as close to a fact as one can get.

He said Trump did not answer the question about the Russians, and claimed Trump has repeatedly failed to answer it. This is also factually false. Trump did answer.

He did only after being pushed for a yes/no answer. Before that every answer contained an ejection clause.

Trump said the media's Russian narrative is all all a big ruse. This is his opinion. But Trump has more facts to support his "ruse" opinion than Smith has to support his opinion that "the Russians hacked the election." Indeed, there are zero facts to support the idea that the election was hacked (by anyone). If anything should be clear to a reasonable person by now, it is this.

Joe Fan continues with the "hack the election" language. He's correct that there is no evidence of the election was hacked. Influenced is another matter. Trumps behavior before and after the election toward Russia, the DNC hacking evidence and leaks that members of Trump's campaign had ongoing conversations with Russia are more than enough to justify an investigation.

Smith says fake news about the leaks/Flynn is "impossible." This statement is false on its face.

He says Trump fired Flynn over the leaks. This is also false on its face. Then Smith tried to crabwalk this false narrative back claiming some "confusion."

We know that 19 days passed between Trump learning that Flynn lied and him being fired. There was a claim of an investigation by the WH Counsel but what would they have been investigating? Are their investigation skills better than the Justice Dept. (e.g. FBI)? Only after the leak(s) to the media did Trump fire him and that was a mere hour after Kellyane Conway said "General Flynn has the full confidence and support of President Trump". It's not a leap to say that the media scrutiny (fed by the leak) had a role in Flynn's dismissal.

 

[Seattle Husker]

 

[Mr. Deez]

Trump said "electoral college victory" then you point out the losers? He's stated this alternate fact on multiple occasions and only today did he say "Republican". At best, Trump is trying to be purposely ambiguous.



Notice the language Joe Fan uses over an over which is not factually correct. He continuously writes "Hacking the election" when in fact Shep Smith said over and over "Hacking the DNC" and "Hacking the opposition" in that clip. Why do you think he does this? Because NOBODY is saying the actual election was hacked. In fact, Obama and others have said that the sanctity of our voting machines are intact. Why use this language? It allows him to continuously pivot away from the evidence of the DNC hacking and the proximity of Trump's campaign team to Russia/Wikileaks (see Flynn, Stone, etc). They juxtapose "hacking the election" with "hacking the DNC" to influence the election.

Oh, and our intelligence agencies are saying without a doubt that Russia was involved in the hack. Aside from declassifying the information, it's as close to a fact as one can get.



He did only after being pushed for a yes/no answer. Before that every answer contained an ejection clause.



Joe Fan continues with the "hack the election" language. He's correct that there is no evidence of the election was hacked. Influenced is another matter. Trumps behavior before and after the election toward Russia, the DNC hacking evidence and leaks that members of Trump's campaign had ongoing conversations with Russia are more than enough to justify an investigation.



We know that 19 days passed between Trump learning that Flynn lied and him being fired. There was a claim of an investigation by the WH Counsel but what would they have been investigating? Are their investigation skills better than the Justice Dept. (e.g. FBI)? Only after the leak(s) to the media did Trump fire him and that was a mere hour after Kellyane Conway said "General Flynn has the full confidence and support of President Trump". It's not a leap to say that the media scrutiny (fed by the leak) had a role in Flynn's dismissal.

Thanks! I hadn't had time to do this.

 

[Mr. Deez]

So Trump is now hard-right? When did that happen? Didn't you call him out as "not a true conservative"?

Trump isn't hard right. He is ideologically scattered and very loose with facts. He's Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho with a twist of Archie Bunker.

 

[Joe Fan]