THE FINAL LOST

What 90 Grad said makes sense, but I was thinking that the thing that gets some of the more minor characters in is that they were in romantic relationships with the major characters. As far as I can recall, every person in the room was either: 1) a major character who crashed there on the plane or 2) a romantic interest of such a person. Ben would have been in his own category, but he didn't go in anyway.
 
hated this ending - a huge steaming pile of sh*t.

This finale did not represent the Lost that began six years ago. This was an ending to a completely different show that somehow replaced the Lost of the first two years. The producers became obsessed with ideas that had nothing to do with the show's original premise.

Seasons 5 and 6 changed the focus of the show. Instead of surviving and trying to get off the island (the heart of the show), they turned it into a massive fight between two men who may have been given "magical powers" - say what?. Xena: Warrior Princess, anyone? The two storielines might have been merged in the final season in a massive attempt to rescue the remaining survivors. Instead, we got caves with healing, life-giving energy, evil smoke monsters bent on destroying the world (really?), time travel, and "flash sideways", whatever they are.

Darlton has no grasp of how to tell a story on television. He was great at setting up the "mysteries" but he really sucked at paying us off. There was simply too much to do in this finale - they could have spent much of seasons 5 and 6 filling in the gaps while maintaining the mystery. Instead they chose to raise even more unanswerable questions while never answering questions previously raised.

"The journey is always more important than the destination" - yeah, I got that from reading Huck Finn in 7th grade.

I'm pissed off at myself for sinking so much time into this mess. I don't know if I would be able rewatch the outstanding first season after seeing this final episode.
 
Agree with the last 3-4 posters. The show was always about more than surviving/getting off the island.

I believe in one of the very first episodes of season 1, Locke holds up white and black backgammon pieces and tells Walt about how they represent good and evil. It was very much setting up some of the scenes between Jacob & MiB in later seasons.

If people didn't like the show, that's cool. If you want to express your dislike for the show, that's cool too. But, I think you missed part of the show that people who liked it caught.
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This is NOT Gilligan's Island, and the show had the potential to be MUCH MUCH MUCH more than simple getting 'rescued.' That was never in question in my mind. The big deal to me was that the ending was even more simplistic and moronic than getting rescued from a mysterious island that moves through space and time...
The conclusion of the show as this simple: We all die. If we love each other, when we die we get to 'move on' to heaven, no matter what we believe as long as we do 'good.'

So the Island doesn't matter, the mysteries don't matter, the time space continum doesn't matter. There are no real answers to the struggle between Good and Evil. All religions lead to heaven (as shown so NOT so subtly in the stainglassed of the 'Unitarian 'church'. Terrible terrible ending to a show that could and should have been great.
 
To borrow a word from Dr. Sheldon Cooper... hokum. The show is actually utter religious and metaphysical hokum. It does nothing to provide answers to religious questions. Quite the contrary it does a grave diservice to all the major world religions by saying they don't matter, because in the end they are all the same. This is propositionally untrue, dangerous, and disrespectful.
I will say that that was a good summation of what LOST was. It is just that it is hokum.

One utterly nonsensical point here: People who are important in each other's lives, are not like a small circle of 20 or so people, but are more like a web woven through the fabric of time and space. The show actually seems to get that over the first 5 seasons, but then loses it in the final episode. There were more greatly important people in the lives of the Losties than just the other Losties. Shannon more important to Jack than his own mother? Doubt it... His dad is there, but not as important or influential as those with whom he crashed, even though the show alludes to the fact that he had to make peace with his dad, but not have his dad there to 'move on'?
It is theological/philsophical drivel.
 
It is theological/philsophical drivel.
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It's TV, its not a theology course.
 
The central theme of the show Lost was that "We have to learn to live together or we all will die alone." That was the point, everything else was meant solely to drive that home.

The island's magic was real and part of the corporeal world. The island, the flash backs and the flash forwards were all happening on this earth with living people, the flash "sideways" (and only the sideways) occured after these people died.

But as I said, the island was real, and all of the magic of the island was focused through the will of the island's Protector. CJ Cregg was in the "die alone" camp. She felt that humans were tainted and must be removed from the equation. When it came time for her to pass on the role of protector (a human mind was not made to be immortal), she attempted to create the perfect replacement. She brought a pregnant lady to the island, and then removed the child's dark bits while in utero. The result was one child was turned into two. Jacob was literally a divided person, and was the direct result of the inability of his mother to trust in people. She realized her mistake before she died, and grew to love the "dark bits" as well... but ultimately her actions had already undone her. She failed as protector because she couldn't trust in people. Jacob failed as protector because he was literally not a complete person. Jacob's goal in finding a replacement was to reconcile our morality to our humanity, and end the schism created by his mother.

The sideways world is not a gimmick and it is not fan service, it is the recognition of the central theme of the story... that when we are able to trust in each other we become something greater. The people in "church" at the end of the episode, were the people who had given themselves over to some concept of a group while on the island.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here and take a stab at how I think the island "works". It is utter speculation, so feel free to disregard it.

A very long time ago (so long ago that the specific story has been lost to time) man discovered the creamy nougatty magical center of the earth. The dug a hole and tried to capture it. They soon realized that was a bad idea and attempted to "plug" the hole they had created to the magic center. The magic, when fully exposed would undo the world.

The plug is both a real object, but also an extension of the individual charged with guarding the hole. As long as the 'plug' is in the hole the Protector is able to channel the magic in a semi-safe way. I say channel, because though the magic manifests itself in the areas of the protector's will, it also results in consequences that the protector can not necessarily control. Each of the magical things that we witnessed represents a decision made by the current or a former protector. CJ Cregg manipulates a baby in utero to make a new protector, and kinda screws up everyone else's plumbing on the island as a consequence. Jacob researches finding a replacement and ultimately even his notes (The Numbers) end up taking on special powers. All of these things happen because the Protector draws his power from the magic through the plug... and these things start building up over time to bizarre and unpredictable results.

When Des pulled the plug, the source of the Protector's power was cut. Thus the effects of the protector's magic stopped, making all of the immortals mortal, and allowing Jack to kill (and be stabbed by) Not Locke.

I'm still working on that theory, but its working for me right now.
 
I'm sure some of you caught this, but among all the great parallel things going on this episode (e.g., Jack dying in the same spot he landed on the island), the scene with Sawyer and Juliet at the vending machine was a nifty allusion to Desmond and Jack "unplugging" the island and then plugging it back in.
 
mia1994, that's a really interesting theory. My only question would be how the magic would know to flow back into Hurley once Jack returned the "cork". And if it flowed back to Hurley, why didn't it do the same for Jack? Though I guess if Jack were able to heal himself, then Jacob would have probably healed himself after Ben stabbed him.
 
My theory requires that the Protectors powers flow as much from the position of the cork, than the magic source directly. Which is to say, the cork in place powers the Protector, out of place it just kinda sits there.

The second that Hurley drank the water he was the prime Protector. EVERY Protector who appointed a replacement died and left the island almost immediately afterward. When the plug was put back, it picked up where it left off.
 
My prototype of Island Crazy Syndrome is Montand. I agree that whatever happened to Claire mirrored what happened to Rousseau, but that is not what happened to Montand or Sayid.
 
That brings up another thing though, that I was just wondering about as I typed that. Sayid got dropped into the water to be healed, died, came back, and apparently had that insanity or whatever in him. It seemed at the time to be true, especially how he responded to Locke, but as the season went on he seemed to become more of himself. So I'm wondering whether he just never became island crazy or exactly what happened to him. Clearly he wasn't with Locke at the end, so was he faking early on, or did he change his position?
 
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