The Deez POTUS honest evaluation thread

Well, after the way many of the libs talked down to those who supported Trump you have to expect there to be some payback.

Deez had a good call out as one of the best posters here, but the facts are the facts. Liberals will call you racist, say you are using straw mans, or simply ignore the facts.

What you all are saying makes perfect sense if you're God-hating heathens. Be contemptuous because others were contemptuous with you or you think they'll be contemptuous with you if you raise some issue with them. Answer their past hostility with hostility.

However, if you're a Christian (as most of us claim to be), the right thing to do is to love and pray for your enemies, love your neighbor as yourself, to turn the other cheek, to show mercy, and treat others not as they treated you but as you would want to be treated.

I think the real source of our disagreement is that you all seem to view courtesy in rhetoric as a sign of weakness or "cuckishness." It's not. It's a sign of strength and confidence in one's position. It's also disarming and opens minds to different perspectives, and isn't that what we want? (That's a big reason why Jesus instructed us as he did.) I've never persuaded anyone of anything by being belligerent, and no one has ever persuaded me of anything that way. Everyone I've persuaded of anything started with courtesy and respect, - regardless of how they treated me. It was true for me in the courtroom and in other contexts. Trust me, it works.
 
What you all are saying makes perfect sense if you're God-hating heathens. Be contemptuous because others were contemptuous with you or you think they'll be contemptuous with you if you raise some issue with them. Answer their past hostility with hostility.

However, if you're a Christian (as most of us claim to be), the right thing to do is to love and pray for your enemies, love your neighbor as yourself, to turn the other cheek, to show mercy, and treat others not as they treated you but as you would want to be treated.

I think the real source of our disagreement is that you all seem to view courtesy in rhetoric as a sign of weakness or "cuckishness." It's not. It's a sign of strength and confidence in one's position. It's also disarming and opens minds to different perspectives, and isn't that what we want? (That's a big reason why Jesus instructed us as he did.) I've never persuaded anyone of anything by being belligerent, and no one has ever persuaded me of anything that way. Everyone I've persuaded of anything started with courtesy and respect, - regardless of how they treated me. It was true for me in the courtroom and in other contexts. Trust me, it works.

Deez, I've seen how you treat AC and I remember how you treated Joe Fan. Let's just drop this, Ok?
 
Deez, I've seen how you treat AC and I remember how you treated Joe Fan. Let's just drop this, Ok?

Fair point, and to be clear, I don't claim perfection on this by any means. I've shown disrespect when I shouldn't have. You'll notice that I haven't persuaded AC.
 
Deez, I've seen how you treat AC and I remember how you treated Joe Fan. Let's just drop this, Ok?

Actually I wanted to click Winner, but how can one vote twice?...

Deez, it's the silent treatment given to questions. We'd been polite up until about the time of the Afghanistan pullout debacle. Now there are NO rebuttals. Ii's post above pretty much speaks for conservatives here. No rebuttals, just skirting any discussion. Just the same, the entire dem party seems in disarray, and has been apparently. I guess blue anon and summer of love are waiting for talking points from HQ, which seems to have blown a transformer or some ****
 
Fair point, and to be clear, I don't claim perfection on this by any means. I've shown disrespect when I shouldn't have. You'll notice that I haven't persuaded AC.

I talk nice to AC and I haven't had any success either. You'll never convince me there wasn't fraud in this last election either, no matter how you talk to me. ;)
 
I talk nice to AC and I haven't had any success either. You'll never convince me there wasn't fraud in this last election either, no matter how you talk to me. ;)

I hear you, but you've lost nothing by being kind. You don't look weak.
 
Huis
Really?
Can you give some verifiable facts of other admins that did as much damage in first 9mons as Biden admin
 
I hear you, but you've lost nothing by being kind. You don't look weak.

I agree for the most part but don't forget that Jesus wasn't above giving someone an *** kicking when they needed it. Ask the Jewish temples. lol
 
That's a big reason why Jesus instructed us as he did.) I've never persuaded anyone of anything by being belligerent, and no one has ever persuaded me of anything that way. Everyone I've persuaded of anything started with courtesy and respect, - regardless of how they treated me.

I remember you and the two, jumping my a$$ for saying that every person that I asked who voted for Trump doesn’t believe Biden won a fair election. The point was there is a lot and continues to be a lot of Rs that don’t believe Biden won a fair election.
 
I agree for the most part but don't forget that Jesus wasn't above giving someone an *** kicking when they needed it. Ask the Jewish temples. lol

He would certainly kick Switzer's ***. I don't think anyone would question that.
 
I remember you and the two, jumping my a$$ for saying that every person that I asked who voted for Trump doesn’t believe Biden won a fair election. The point was there is a lot and continues to be a lot of Rs that don’t believe Biden won a fair election.

I don't remember jumping your *** for this. I'm sure plenty of people who voted for Trump don't think Biden won a fair election.
 
Huis
Really?
Can you give some verifiable facts of other admins that did as much damage in first 9mons as Biden admin


First 9 months? Bay of Pigs, humiliated by Nikita in Geneva, both feet in in Nam. Currently rated as a top ten. Go figure.


Now if you give Joe two years I will offer up W as a lot worse

some of Joe’s potential disasters are going to self correct or Peter out or get turned around with the 2022 elections

another president I can proudly point at and say I didn’t vote for him and I told you he was a dud

the last president I voted for was GHWB

the rest of the heroes suck going back to Ike, our last superb president
 
First 9 months? Bay of Pigs, humiliated by Nikita in Geneva, both feet in in Nam. Currently rated as a top ten. Go figure.


Now if you give Joe two years I will offer up W as a lot worse

some of Joe’s potential disasters are going to self correct or Peter out or get turned around with the 2022 elections

another president I can proudly point at and say I didn’t vote for him and I told you he was a dud

the last president I voted for was GHWB

the rest of the heroes suck going back to Ike, our last superb president
Nixon was a good president
 
Huisache, I agree with you on W. He sucked. POS. Nixon was a POS. HW Bush was the biggest POS. The list is long, R's and D's. To me Biden and Obama are on that list. Of course, you can't leave Clinton off. Far fewer good Presidents than bad.
 
All of these above mentioned were crooked. HW Bush had to have been the most corrupt of all time though. Competence wise, its Biden and he still has time to catch HW Bush. My favorites all time are:
Washington
Trump
Reagan
JFK
Jackson
 
Please let us know who. I’m all ears. I’m not strong enough on Presidential history to know if it’s LBJ, Carter or Wilson. I’m happy to listen to your views and getting educated.
 
I think in general America has thought senators are good options for POTUS. I think history shows they are graft sucking a-holes on both sides of the isle.
 
huis
Really really weak.
How many Americans died during JFK's first 9 months?
What did JFK do that weakened our economy.
I am no fan of JFK but you know that was weak.
 
huis
Really really weak.
How many Americans died during JFK's first 9 months?
What did JFK do that weakened our economy.
I am no fan of JFK but you know that was weak.
In his first 9 months jfk got dunked by Kruschev in Vienna which led the next year to a near war over Cuba because the Commies thought Kennedy weak

jfk ignored DeGaulle and waded further into Nam
remember how that turned out?

his domestic programs were doa in Congress. After he got shot LBJ passed his agenda and called it the great society. Happy with how that has turned out?

Kennedy beat Nixon by stealing the election and by claiming there was a missile gap. He knew it did not exist. He ramped up a new arms race

he had the CIA doing hits

his one good move was cutting taxes
 
Before my time. Was born when LBJ was president. I heard some things about Taft, not much about Coolidge. HW Bush was soo bad. History needs to tell the truth about that man, he is revered in Houston where I live.
 
Biden still has them all beat so far. 8 months in, no one comes close to the damage done and intentional division of the populace. His speech yesterday was reprehensible, and it's his Go To now
 
Before my time. Was born when LBJ was president. I heard some things about Taft, not much about Coolidge. HW Bush was soo bad. History needs to tell the truth about that man, he is revered in Houston where I live.

HW Bush was bad on foreign policy and he caved on raising taxes.

However, he did a good job of doing NOTHING during the 1991 economic downturn. He got blamed for it but he let the market respond. The downturn was short.
 
Most of what he really did is not out in the public. He hated Reagan, I’ll leave it right there.
 

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