The Decision To Try The Punt Block In The 4th Qtr...

Your "proof" is a bunch of comments from internet nobodies? LOL!!! Watch the video, specifically at the 13 second mark. "Extended his heel"? That's standard motion for a conventional punter.
Let's try an exercise. You jump up in the air with one leg fully extended out and let me "slighty contact" your landing foot. It was the correct call by the refs.
 
Another failing on the refs part is their acceptance of the practice. The punter/kickers should be flagged.

Earlier this year Legg for WVU acted as though he destroyed. Then was laughing.

Flag their asses and this all ends.
 
Yes, this was the horrible call that even the in-studio ref said was a bad call. 21 was blocked in to the kicker. How that is roughing is beyond reason.
 
Your Wrong said:
Another failing on the refs part is their acceptance of the practice. The punter/kickers should be flagged.

Earlier this year Legg for WVU acted as though he destroyed. Then was laughing.

Flag their asses and this all ends.
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Anytime the defender contacts the punters landing foot it's going to get called as roughing and rightfully so. The alternative is a bunch of punters with broken ankles, legs, etc.
Did the punter embellish the extent of the contact? Of course he did. I would hope our punter would do the same.
Relevant side note: that penalty occurred on 4th & 3. Even if they call it Running into the Kicker, it's still a first down.
 
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horninchicago said:
Yes, this was the horrible call that even the in-studio ref said was a bad call. 21 was blocked in to the kicker. How that is roughing is beyond reason.
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Yeah the bogus punter flop wasn't the only play the refs screwed us on. The long TD run had a couple of holds, one obvious, that they got away with, too.

Don't get me wrong, I have little faith Sark would have capitalized if the right calls were made, but you never know.
 
LonghornCatholic said:
Yeah the bogus punter flop wasn't the only play the refs screwed us on. The long TD run had a couple of holds, one obvious, that they got away with, too.

Don't get me wrong, I have little faith Sark would have capitalized if the right calls were made, but you never know.
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The egregious non call the play prior was a killer too.
 
Did the punter embellish the extent of the contact? Of course he did. I would hope our punter would do the same.
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He was already embellishing before he was touched. You can see in the slow-mo replay from the sideline angle that he was already committed to the motion that spun him 90 degrees sideways before anybody touched him. Furthermore, if he goes with a normal motion, his leg/foot may not have been touched it all, since his plant foot would have gone forward rather than been sticking out to the left.

It's the equivalent of basketball players "shooting" by jumping unnaturally sideways or throwing their arms into the defender.
 
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Furthermore, if he goes with a normal motion, his leg/foot may not have been touched it all, since his plant foot would have gone forward rather than been sticking out to the left.
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It's not the punter's responsibility to avoid contact with the defender, it is the defender's responsibility to avoid contact with the punter. Whether called roughing or running into the punter, either way the net result was going to be first down TCU. Yet another example of a poor coaching decision and even worse execution.
 
Are we still talking about the play where #21 was clearly blocked into the kicker, and the ABC ref said should have negated the running into the kicker call? That one?
 
it is the defender's responsibility to avoid contact with the punter
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Right, and that's generally based on the punter doing a natural punting motion. Punters deliberately jumping or twisting in unpredictable ways to try and cause contact should be no different than a QB seeing a defender going low and then dropping into a slide at the last minute and trying to slam heads to draw a targeting foul.

Yet another example of a poor coaching decision and even worse execution.
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I understand the gamble. A successful punt wasn't even a bad result for TCU because it just put the ball back in our inept hands.

Just get the ball back to the offense.
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Did anyone see our offense that day?

[Several references to Colorado game in 2001
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We were actually moving the ball in that one. Against TCU at that point, in 10 possessions we'd only managed 9 first downs.
 
horninchicago said:
Are we still talking about the play where #21 was clearly blocked into the kicker, and the ABC ref said should have negated the running into the kicker call? That one?
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I think that was the first or second, but I believe they’re talking about the 4th quarter play where punter flopped unnaturally and made it seem like he got shot from the 6th floor of a book depository building in downtown Dallas, TX.
 
LonghornCatholic said:
I think that was the first or second, but I believe they’re talking about the 4th quarter play where punter flopped unnaturally and made it seem like he got shot from the 6th floor of a book depository building in downtown Dallas, TX.
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Jeez, how many of those did we have?

Lost track amongst the hands to the face and defensive delay of game penalties.

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1. Sark / Banks spot a weakness and decide to try to block a punt
2. TCU's punter is a notorious flop artist

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3. Sark / Banks discretely tell the umpire that they're going for it and to watch out for the punter's flop. "Hey, this punter falls every single time he punts the ball. Make sure we touch him before you throw the flag. He's a World-class flopper."

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But I agree that you go all out for the block once - maybe twice. This play was much later in the game after you already whiffed on the block twice. Give it up.
 
hic
If you have the vid what is your opinion of what happened.
To an uneducated person like me it looked like the small plane flew into the B17.
So tragic
 
Horn6721 said:
hic
If you have the vid what is your opinion of what happened.
To an uneducated person like me it looked like the small plane flew into the B17.
So tragic
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I accidentally saw it only once. Haven't really formed an opinion. A professional message board I am on is speculating. Some of the people on there knew some of the pilots involved. Medical event? Someone at a wrong altitude? The smaller plane having a cluttered cockpit causing vision issues outside?

Hard to tell.
 
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