Texas vs OSU game thread.

1) Bad decision to kick on side.....kick it deep so they have to go length of field giving Texas a better opportunity at shorter field, instead of giving them field of 40 yards for clinching score.
2) Bad decision to field punt inside 5
3) Pathetic officiating.....#4 was all over Johnson all night....so not even close
4) Extremely undisciplined
 
bystander said:
He said they needed to coach that kick better. That's what I was saying; did he or did he not "know" that Dicker could execute a high hop? Had they seen it in practice on a consistent basis or not? If not, why call it?
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Yea, was gonna say it looked like they have never practiced one of those!
 
blonthang said:
To me, Boyd's and Humphrey's body language suggested a case of pouting.

Boyd, too many times seemed to be way too far from his assignment receiver, looked uninterested in doing his job.

Humphrey walking over to the line for his place instead of getting over there promptly resulted in an illegal procedure.

Both just seemed like maybe they were giving it back to TH.

Coaches should have noticed this and played others who maybe had some fire in their bellies to win the game that these two apparently lacked tonight.
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Boyd has been taken to the woodshed all season
 
zuckercanyon said:
I think it happens to all coaches not named saban
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But it consistently happens to Herman coached teams. See uconn and navy at UH, Maryland(twice), tech last year, Osu tonight just to name a few and that doesn’t count playing down to multiple opponents and squeaking out wins
 
At least twice (the touchdown and the final 3rd down conversion) the zone read keeper by the QB appeared to completely fool our defensive ends. The touchdown (the play they should have called holding on the Okie State receiver, #2) was to the right. The final 1st down conversion before the victory formation was to the left. Both times the defense appeared to have no clue as the QB had nothing but yardage ahead of him. Easy plays.
 
Me thinks these stats are quite revealing....

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Walking Boss said:
But it consistently happens to Herman coached teams. See uconn and navy at UH, Maryland(twice), tech last year, Osu tonight just to name a few and that doesn’t count playing down to multiple opponents and squeaking out wins
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Also at Houston lost to smu after beating top ranked ou.
 
Penalties — 11 for 86 vs 4 for 52. What a crock of dung. That ref should spend less time in the gym and more time preparing (and picking out some better glasses).
 
I don’t like losing to teams we should beat. It happens, but there were no surprises in Stillwater tonight. All we heard for a week was “it’s a night game close to Halloween in Stillwater” and “ it’s homecoming.” We simply either weren’t prepared (which is astounding), were out coached, or both. This team should be good enough to handle at least “some” inferior teams, yet we simply cannot. And when I say “handle,” I mean without the late game dramatics.

I’m starting to wonder if the wins against Tulsa, KSU and Baylor were more indicative of this team than the wins against USC, TCU and OU.

Not a great performance tonight by either TH or TO.
 
No turnovers by either team. That's pretty amazing.

Our penalties were very untimely. Two holds negating big first downs including one after the catastrophic punt return to our one yard line.
 
11 penalties signals lack of focus, lack of discipline and general sloppiness. Perhaps 1 or 2 were marginal calls but several were killers at critical times.
 
Dish Falk said:
Penalties — 11 for 86 vs 4 for 52. What a crock of dung.
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I can think of these off the top of my head that were justified:

Dicker's out of bounds hit on his kickoff
Humphrey lollygagging over to his position, not there before the snap
defensive tackle lined up in the neutral zone
the two on Hager and TH at the end due to their unsportsmanlike conduct
at least one delay of game

That's 6.

The punt play to draw UT offsides was crap by the refs.
A couple of holdings, meh, happens.

There were no targetings, helmet to helmet contacts, or other judgment calls that I can recall.

Maybe your point is that oSu should have been penalized more; on that I'd agree, but Texas' penalties IMHO seemed mostly self-inflicted.
 
I just don’t think we’re there yet, not this team with this set of players....there’s no such thing as who we should and should not defeat. It depends on who walks out of the tunnel....lots of times it’s breckyn n pj......rather than 6.1 n 6.0 freshmen.....Gary Johnson was a 6.1 juco, duvernay was a 6.0 but doesn’t play defense....we’re a year or two away from beating people we’re supposed to....
 
Chinstrap said:
You might ask the same question on whoever had the responsibility on the quarterback run around the right side for a td. And perhaps Orlando gets some of the blame. I just know that in my years of football outside containment was preached over and over and I cannot believe these kids were not coached in these same basics.

As to 11, I personally have seen enough of him to not let him on the field. But maybe he is the best they have to offer.
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In fairness to Boyd on the qb touchdown run to the right an Okie had him by the arm on a blatant hold that was ignored by the regs.
 
Walking Boss said:
But it consistently happens to Herman coached teams. See uconn and navy at UH, Maryland(twice), tech last year, Osu tonight just to name a few and that doesn’t count playing down to multiple opponents and squeaking out wins
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Opinion with no factual basis: Tom and staff put things in cruise control during some weeks of the season (and preseason), not putting in the work required for an upcoming game. This is just an assumption based on observing how the team comes out to play some games. Many times flat and without an apparent game plan specific to their opponent that week (like some of those teachers in high school who would play a movie or repeat a lesson plan on days that they didn't feel up to teaching). It reeks of an immature staff not experienced with putting in hard work EVERY DAY of EVERY WEEK throughout the season. Unprepared for many scenarios until the team is already in a really bad situation (see tonight down by 3 TDs to an unranked team). Instead, they choose to feel proud of what they've accomplished thus far this season, resting on their laurels, kicking their heels up and thinking they can just show up (this is conjecture on my part). This rubs off on the team, and the lack of opponent-specific preparation doesn't help. Tom has admitted as much, saying "we didn't expect this...." , "we were surprised by this", or "we had no idea their QB/RB was that good/could run". That translate into, "we didn't do our homework", "we were unprepared", "we didn't do our jobs this past week for which we are overpaid as it is". This is really unacceptable. Imagine if you showed up for work, gave a lackluster effort, and then offered those types of excuses. You'd probably get fired. I'm not saying Tom should get fired. The team has actually taken big strides this year (kudos to Tom and staff for that). But he's still not allowed to take weeks off and turn in crappy performances. It smacks of immaturity, and he needs to correct that ASAP. Just my opinion.
 
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dukesteer said:
USC, TCU and OU.
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I think you can pretty much group USC and TCU with BU, Tulsa, and KSU.
They are not very good teams.
And we almost gave away the OU game.
That's all I've been saying is that our wins have not instilled great confidence in me.
However, we are still capable of winning out.
Lot's of football left.
 
LonghornMD said:
Opinion with no factual basis: Tom and staff put things in cruise control during some weeks of the season (and preseason), not putting in the work required for an upcoming game. This is just an assumption based on observing how the team comes out to play some games. Many times flat and without an apparent game plan specific to their opponent that week (like some of those teachers in high school who would play a movie or repeat a lesson plan on days that they didn't feel up to teaching). It reeks of an immature staff not experienced with putting in hard EVERY DAY of EVERY WEEK throughout the season. Unprepared for many scenarios. Instead, they choose to feel proud of what they've accomplished thus far, kicking their heels up and thinking they can just show up (conjecture on my part). This rubs off on the team, and the lack of opponent-specific preparation doesn't help. Tom has admitted as much, saying "we didn't expect this...." , "we were surprised by this", or "we had no idea their QB/RB was that good/could run". That translate into, "we didn't do our homework", "we were unprepared", "we didn't do our jobs this past week for which we are overpaid as it is". This is really unacceptable. Imagine if you showed up for work, gave a lackluster effort, and then offered those types of excuses. You'd probably get fired. I'm not saying Tom should get fired. The team has actually taken big strides this year (kudos to Tom and staff for that). But he's still not allowed to take weeks off and turn in crappy performances. It smacks of immaturity, and he needs to correct that ASAP. Just my opinion.
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Soooo how did Purdue sneak up on Ohio State? I guess it was the Ohio state university young coach whose known for his lack of preparation for teams he should beat....
 
dukesteer said:
I don’t like losing to teams we should beat. It happens, but there were no surprises in Stillwater tonight. All we heard for a week was “it’s a night game close to Halloween in Stillwater” and “ it’s homecoming.” We simply either weren’t prepared (which is astounding), were out coached, or both. This team should be good enough to handle at least “some” inferior teams, yet we simply cannot. And when I say “handle,” I mean without the late game dramatics.

I’m starting to wonder if the wins against Tulsa, KSU and Baylor were more indicative of this team than the wins against USC, TCU and OU.

Not a great performance tonight by either TH or TO.
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Uh, TCU & USC only hurt our SOS....they are bad teams this year. I’d say OU was anomoly. So, we are one of the B12 9 dwarfs. This video says it all......
Dinich: Texas' loss is bad for entire Big 12 conference - ESPN Video
 
I guess I don't understand what it means to underestimate the QB's ability to run. Does that mean you told the players to sell out to the running back and ignore the QB? I mean, the zone read is the zone read. It's no surprise. We've seen it now for years. Is there no contingency on any given play when the DE see's the QB sticking the ball into the running backs gut that it MIGHT be a zone read?
 
Upsets happen and there are always excuses: poor penalties, poor execution, poor effort, poor coaching, etc. just happens. That's the agony and beauty of college football, but still sucks when it's my boys. I'm one of those who stayed on cloud nine after the OU victory but never bought all the hype about a #6 ranking because of our 4th qtr performance and the apparent collapse in the strength of our prior opponents.
I'm hoping we bounce back but no guarantees, heck even Ks beat TCU. Who saw that coming? Hookem
 
zuckercanyon said:
Soooo how did Purdue sneak up on Ohio State? I guess it was the Ohio state university young coach whose known for his lack of preparation for teams he should beat....
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? Applying the reasons why Texas' lost to OSU are not transitive to the reasons why Ohio State lost to Purdue. Different situations. In fact, why you would try to make that a similar scenario makes no sense. But you think whatever you want. I'm eager to hear your rationale :rolleyes1: (sarcasm).
 
LonghornMD said:
? Applying the reasons why Texas' lost to OSU are not transitive to the reasons why Ohio State lost to Purdue. Different situations. In fact, why you would try to make that a similar scenario makes no sense. But you think whatever you want. I'm eager to hear your rationale :rolleyes1: (sarcasm).
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Not happy with the loss either but to say Purdue is a world beater and was no surprise to beat the buckeyes soundly is not factual. Am also saying that even the best have to bow their heads and say they were unprepared for their “lesser” opponents....I think Herman’s developing a winner here and would remind everyone down on his performance that DKR also lost ones he should have won....won’t dig into the details of those kinds of facts unless you insist....
 
You might ask the same question on whoever had the responsibility on the quarterback run around the right side for a td
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I blame Foster for that one. He should have had Cornelius for a 2 yard gain, but basically stood there and just reached out with his hands and then gave up the instant he was unable to pull the QB down by his forearm.

I can think of these off the top of my head that were justified:
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defensive tackle lined up in the neutral zone
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True, but OSU did it the possession before and they completely missed it.

It appeared to me that Hager was playing football before the QB's knee hit the ground.
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He was. The problem was he was still doing it a couple of seconds after the QB's knee hit the ground.
 
I don't like to be a hard-*** or a know it all when I question Herman. But when someone is making set for life money then I think it's ok to wonder about mistakes that indicate the salary is outpacing the value.
 
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