Texas-OU Game Thread

Statalyzer said:
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Yikes. Well, my hopes of some of the backups blocking better than the starters turned out to be wishful thinking. Based on what I saw Saturday, I bet it’s a guy I’ve been pumping up since his high school days. Saturday was definitely not his day. He still has raw talent, he’s young, and he’s played decently in other games before, so I wouldn’t give up on him. Can’t perform like that in a game again though.
 
Plenty of effort.
Our D line can be exploited with the counter and trap. We don’t have the depth. Herman left him with some great players and some holes. Bijan, Overshown, Thompson, etc..Sark should of filled In with depth. Our Defense was completely gassed. This was a track meet and “all Gas” gassed our players.
We should of been able to run the ball but we didn’t pound it. I’ve seen OU do this too many times with stunts. Double TE set would of been nice to shorten the game….

You also have to blame the football gods as a bunch of unlucky stuff had to happen for this to happen. This was Oilers/Bills all over.
Overall, it is on the Coaches for not adjusting better to the situation. Let’s see how the season plays out.
 
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We are halfway thru the season, and I still do not know who we are as a team. The most consistent thing about this team is inconsistency.
 
Phil Elliott said:
We are halfway thru the season, and I still do not know who we are as a team. The most consistent thing about this team is inconsistency.
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Let's see.
New coaching staff. Still getting to know their players.
New system.
Change starting QB after 2nd game.
I doubt anybody, including the coaching staff know exactly who we are yet.
I'm sure they know who they want to be.
But still finding the right pieces of the puzzle to put into place.
And probably don't even have all the pieces yet.
 
Phil Elliott said:
We are halfway thru the season, and I still do not know who we are as a team. The most consistent thing about this team is inconsistency.
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We can beat bad and mediocre teams

We lose to good teams

Imo neither ark or ou are legit top 10. They're good , but not top ten. Ou , with Williams at qb might have taken a big step in that direction tho

The teams we lost to are definitely beatable after seeing their other games. One dominated us the last 55 minutes. The other dominated us the last 40. The defense fell apart both times. I think I know who we are as a team
 
I have a question, anyone else feel CT does not carry out the fake as definitely as he once did? I noticed it against OU but I also recognize there was not a lot of time to do anything before he was under siege.
I suppose I can go back and watch the Bowl game but I thought that was something I appreciated about him early on and it sure makes a difference when you’ve got a back like BR you’re faking it to. Now don’t take this as a slam on CT, I’m still solidly his fan but just wondering if I’m making this up.
 
Horns11 said:
I think we should put Kerstetter back at RT, Angilau back at LG, and move up Imade or Conner at RG. Our run game puts such a premium on maintaining the edge, and Karic just wasn't getting it done. We refused to abandon that off-tackle zone style. Robinson had 3 "good" runs all game.

It wouldn't be tough to mimic what OU was doing with their counter all game. Even Roschon could get some more play time in.

At WR, we're basically selling everything to get it to Worthy every play, so I don't see anything wrong with flexing out Wiley/Brewer and then add in a little bit more Washington, Woodard, and Dixon. I have yet to see them make any "bad" plays.
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Just wanted to quote myself now that the OK State depth chart shows what I asked for :smokin:

I think the offseason swap between Okafor and Angilau was more of a "gift" to Denzel due to his work ethic, grades, sticking around for a 6th year, and his personal preference. Now that we don't have to worry about keeping him around, getting Angilau back to LG will free up Jones to not have to worry about his right side, allow Kerstetter to go back to his best position, and hopefully get Majors to calm down and knock off the illegal snaps. Karic had such a negative impact on the OU game that it culminated in a domino effect of mishaps from the beginning of the 2nd quarter onward.

It would have been a 55-27 loss if it wasn't for the brilliance of Worthy and a few bailed DB attempts early on. And the OL should be considered the weak link no matter what anyone says about scoring 48 on OU.

Now, I don't know what to do about the D.
 
I think the help for defense is coming from the next 2 recruiting classes. It’s going to take a while.
 
If you knew OL was a band aid for the 2nd half and you knew OU defense was going kamikaze, why didn’t you call different plays to mitigate that?
 
If you knew OL was a band aid for the 2nd half and you knew OU defense was going kamikaze, why didn’t you call different plays to mitigate that?
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I admit I am very concerned about our inability to make adjustments in-game.
 
OUBubba said:
Statalyzer: it was reviewed. They mentioned that refs liberally interpret being “pushed” out of bounds. And, even a touch can count. He did touch him. Lightly, but it was a touch. Hell, it may have been a sleeve but it was a touch and the ref threw his hat on the ground.
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Yes, he touched hin AFTER he reentered. The play was repeated several times and the touch came after he reentered.
 
moondog_LFZ said:
They reviewed whether it was a catch but never mentioned the out of bounds part.
I don't think they even looked at it.
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Now THAT would be an issue because they are supposed to review all reviewable aspects of a play.

I will defer to y'all. I deleted my damn recording, so I don't have the play and don't feel like looking for it. My recollection at the time was our player "made contact" with the OU player.
 
old65horn said:
Yes, he touched hin AFTER he reentered. The play was repeated several times and the touch came after he reentered.
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Yes, but the referee specialist said that they were very loose with the concept of "forcing them out of bounds". And, the replay shown doesn't show any potential "touching" that may happened before he turned heel.
 
OUBubba said:
Yes, but the referee specialist said that they were very loose with the concept of "forcing them out of bounds". And, the replay shown doesn't show any potential "touching" that may happened before he turned heel.
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Rule link? I cannot find any reference to your contention. The receiver was ineligible to be the fist player to touch the ball.i have replayed the play about 10 times. The officiating was not as bad as the Okie state game under strong, but the calls did not even out for the game.

I heard the referee specialist say they blew the call.
 
old65horn said:
Rule link? I cannot find any reference to your contention. The receiver was ineligible to be the fist player to touch the ball.i have replayed the play about 10 times. The officiating was not as bad as the Okie state game under strong, but the calls did not even out for the game.

I heard the referee specialist say they blew the call.
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This is what I found. When I was watching on Saturday, there was, however incidental, contact from the Texas player. That is not defined, so, they ruled how they ruled. Note the exception.

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old65horn said:
Rule link? I cannot find any reference to your contention. The receiver was ineligible to be the fist player to touch the ball.i have replayed the play about 10 times. The officiating was not as bad as the Okie state game under strong, but the calls did not even out for the game.

I heard the referee specialist say they blew the call.
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I heard what you heard. One of the announcers stated that they reviewed the catch, but not the original out of bounds.
 
horninchicago said:
This is what I found. When I was watching on Saturday, there was, however incidental, contact from the Texas player. That is not defined, so, they ruled how they ruled. Note the exception.

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Yes, I have seen this. The rule clearly states that the receiver is eligible if he goes out of bounds due to contact. There was absolutely no contact that caused him to go out of bounds. There was no contact until
the reciever came back in and it was just a brush that cannot be defined as contact that would cause him to change course.
Thanks for posting the makes it clear, blown call.
 
old65horn said:
Yes, I have seen this. The rule clearly states that the receiver is eligible if he goes out of bounds due to contact. There was absolutely no contact that caused him to go out of bounds. There was no contact until
the reciever came back in and it was just a brush that cannot be defined as contact that would cause him to change course.
Thanks for posting the makes it clear, blown call.
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Like I said, I don't have the replay any longer, so I will defer to you on that.
 
I previously stated that the call was, in my opinion, not why we lost. It was a factor, but as you have stated, we will never know how much of a factor.

I believe the primary reason was the OL and
the shakeup of the OL means the staff thinks so too.

I appreciate you posting the official rules and makes it clear to me that they blew the call. I hope the issue is now put to bed.

I deleted my recording Sat night in disgust.
I never want to ever see a replay again.
 
As another after thought - only time I remember us scoring on first play from scrimmage and I thought “this will be a blow out” was against Ks. We lost them too. I seem to remember it was the defense that could not stop them - Ks. We’ve come a long way baby.
Nevertheless I’ll be there on Sat and all home games plus Baylor, hoping for the best.
 
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