Tebowing

ZH,

OK you don't worship him, but you obviously spent some considerable time to try and prove how right you are and how wrong I am, so whatever. Maybe you just need to be right, who knows.

I'm not making you a frickin list because as I previously stated it is my opinion and I don't CARE if you agree or not.

Your continued ignoring my repeated statement that he was a very good player is just as deafening. The way you act you seem to think he sucked which I most certainly did not.

I don't care if you post 100 sources you think support your Most Wonderful status for Tebow, I don't agree.

I think if he had played here he would have been very good as well, but I still wouldn't have identified him as you choose to do. Over. Done.
 
Yeah, I keep waiting for that bomb to explode on our Gov but he handed if off to Cain instead. So far so good but it will come out eventually. Whoops, wrong board.
 
Tebow was one of the best college football qbs during his reign. Was that due to his talent, the talent who surrounded him, the system...? Whatever it was, Tebow got results in college. Good for him.

He is now one of the worst NFL qbs.
 
How can you disagree with that statement? Name a great QB who won a MNC with an average supporting cast.
 
No one wins a Heisman.

They are awarded.

There is no specific criteria for "winning" a Heisman.

It's usually the best football player in America that year. Not always.

I"m not saying Tebow was or wasn't when he was awarded it, but a Heisman in itself isn't proof of being the best or even among the best. Just that he's the one the plurality of voters vote for.

Ask Suh or McCoy.
 
Thankfully that was actually my 3rd post on this thread. I'm glad I managed to qualify for the standards of discussing the topic. Whew.

Maybe, looking at it again, you were just saying you and he should agree to disagree in general, but since you quoted one specific sentence it looked like you were disagreeing that great QBs always win championships along with great supporting casts.
 
GRS -- Not sure. They don't keep a separate stat for that (I guess no one beside you thinks that that is important). Probably about the same ratio of redzone TD runs as, say, Emmit Smith or Eddie George.

He is apparently fast enough to run it in from 40 yards in the NFL, where I am pretty sure the athletes are better and faster than in college.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5otWaHameY
 
Longhorny630, man that was funny. I spit my tea when I read your post.
The thing that I get from tebow is that it's all posing, not genuine. That's just my impression of course - I don't know the guy, so how can I really know if it's fake or not? as for his abilities, i'd say above average in college, pedestrian in the NFL. I wish I could spend 10 minutes with him so that my life would be better for it.
 
Well, they let him do what he does best and broke out the zone read plays from college. What happened? He rushed for 117 yards, and McGahee got 163 more as the defense had to stay home and respect all 11 offensive players. He also passed for 2 TD's and had a 98.3 QB rating in beating the Raiders.

I have been saying for years that if I owned an NFL team I'd get VY, Tebow and Brad Smith and run a zone read offense, just to prove the naysayers wrong that it can't be done in the NFL. It can. You just have to have backups that can run it if/when your starter gets banged up. Defending against a well run zone-read is much harder than a straight running play. Its 11 on 11 instead of 10 on 11, and you have to stay home and can't fly to the ball. It also opens up the play-action passing game. There is a reason why Tebow and VY are considered two of the best players of the past 25 years -- not only did their teams win MNC's, but they dominated on the ground and through the air, and they accounted for a hugely disproportionate % of their offense's production, and both ran offenses that score 45+ ppg. (Suck on that, Bama and LSU).

We will see if Tebow holds up down the stretch, but if he has more days like today expect the hype to grow, not dissipate.
 
I suppose it does. Like they say, you spot it you got it. What does it say about me and where is the empirical evidence of it? Might want to work on your irrational beliefs.
 
RobbyHorn,

Tebow was born in the Phillipines, where his father -- a Baptist preacher -- was doing missionary work. He was homeschooled by his highly devout Christian parents, and spent the entirety of his last three summers in high school back in the Phillipines doing missionary work at the orphanage his father founded, a time when most self-centered high school kids are partying, not choosing to live in third world countries in malarial conditions working with the poor and dispossed.

Seems like a lot of effort for someone who is just being "fake", no? Believe it or not, there are actually good hearted people in this world that take their faith seriously and try to live a life of service. They are not perfect, but they don't deserve snarky comments like yours, especially when they are admittedly based on nothing. It indeed says something about you that you openly speculate about the sincerity of someone else's faith -- something you admit you know nothing about -- for no apparent reason, other than to perhaps make you feel better about yourself by tearing someone else down.

A lot of Aggies said similar things about Colt and his faith and missionary work. They didn't have any class either.
 
I'd rather see an athlete "tebow" in the end zone than act a fool and dance. Wonder what he's done to bring the wrath of so many? I guess a lot of folk would rather see the "hey, look at me" type athlete succeed.
 
It seems to me that there are 2 reasons for most of the "hate" that people have for Tebow:
1. Too much media attention/hype resulting in overexposure, especially when compared to the media focus on VY. I can understand this to some degree as it was frustrating to see Bush mentioned in every other breath when VY was better (and proved it). Tebow later seemed to get all the focus that VY should have.
2. A lot of people, including some on this board, hate him because of his unabashed Christian faith. It makes them uncomfortable so they deride and insult him and hope for his failure. This is part of an anti-faith sentiment in this country that seems to be growing.

I'm one of those who would take VY or McCoy over Tebow, but I also hope that Tebow does well. He's certainly a much better role model for today's youth than the athletes involved in drugs/alcohol, fathering kids with multiple women, involved in shootings, etc. I'd much rather seen someone like Tebow held up as an example than some of the garbage athletes that have dominated the news in recent years.
 
I agree with Prodigal's stance on Tebow. The guy has never done or said anything, ever, to show his faith is insincere.

Most Christians in America are incredibly insincere and hypocritical by their actions, words, and beliefs -but not Tebow.
 
I agree with what you say Prod.

I think VY has turned out to be a head case. Longhorn or not. Tebow handles himself better and I hope he becomes a successful NFL qb. I would rather have him on my team than Young. But, that strays from the o.p.
 
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