So why is Charlie better at USF?

Charlie also had Sterling Gilbert as his OC for the 2nd year in a row.
I was skeptical about that marriage at first, of a defensive minded coach with a power spread OC but they seem to have found something that works.
And we saw how easy it was to install Gilbert's offense in one off-season.

Meanwhile Tom Herman inflicted Tim Beck on himself.

It would have been interesting to see what this offense would have looked like under a second year with Sterling Gilbert.
 
Detective Shilala said:
Charlie also had Sterling Gilbert as his OC for the 2nd year in a row.
I was skeptical about that marriage at first, of a defensive minded coach with a power spread OC but they seem to have found something that works.
And we saw how easy it was to install Gilbert's offense in one off-season.

Meanwhile Tom Herman inflicted Tim Beck on himself.

It would have been interesting to see what this offense would have looked like under a second year with Sterling Gilbert.
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The thought has definitely crossed my mind.
 
Detective Shilala said:
Charlie also had Sterling Gilbert as his OC for the 2nd year in a row.
I was skeptical about that marriage at first, of a defensive minded coach with a power spread OC but they seem to have found something that works.
And we saw how easy it was to install Gilbert's offense in one off-season.

Meanwhile Tom Herman inflicted Tim Beck on himself.

It would have been interesting to see what this offense would have looked like under a second year with Sterling Gilbert.
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i'd like to see gilbert and orlando as coordinators, with gilbert in his 2nd year. he did get our RB 2000 yards. it's not like he was pass happy.
 
X Misn Tx said:
he did get our RB 2000 yards. it's not like he was pass happy.
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Yep and its not like we had a dominating OL last year either. In the early part of the year Shane was throwing it a lot. As the year went on and the easy candy was not there in the passing game, we went to the run and had a lot of success. Exactly the way it was intended to work.
 
Detective Shilala said:
Yep and its not like we had a dominating OL last year either. In the early part of the year Shane was throwing it a lot. As the year went on and the easy candy was not there in the passing game, we went to the run and had a lot of success. Exactly the way it was intended to work.
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and chris warren didn't suck last year either.
 
X Misn Tx said:
and chris warren didn't suck last year either.
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I don't think he sucked this year. 4.7 ypc was equal to Carter and Young, all much better than Porter, who had the most carries. Considering how bad the OL was, Chris was actually pretty good, just didn't enough carries to wear defenses down and thus increase his ypc more.

One could make an argument Texas would have 3 more W's had Warren been used in certain goal line situations instead of Sam throwing the ball to the other team or Porter falling down when he was breathed on.
 
We would have most likely won the Okie Lite game had we pounded the ball (not with Porter!) instead of passing in OT. Unfortunately, there nothing that can be done now except, hopefully, the O coaches learn from this year and improve next year. Ball security is an issue and lack of it cost us the USC, OSU and the Tech games.

I was hoping to see some improvement in the bowl game, but with the guys declaring, transferring, or injured I don't see much hope for a win, which sucks unless the replacements step up and eek out a win. If not that will be 4 straight subpar seasons in a row and , unless I'm mistaken, five or six years with a loss in the final game.
 
BevoJoe said:
I was hoping to see some improvement in the bowl game, but with the guys declaring, transferring, or injured I don't see much hope for a win, which sucks unless the replacements step up and eek out a win. If not that will be 4 straight subpar seasons in a row...
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No quarterback = No chance of winning. UT hasn't had a real QB since Colt McCoy. The USF QB is good. Shane or Sam? Doesn't really matter, because neither one is very good. I'm afraid the next great UT QB isn't on campus at this time. Could be a long couple of years.
 
KBBAKER said:
No quarterback = No chance of winning. UT hasn't had a real QB since Colt McCoy. The USF QB is good. Shane or Sam? Doesn't really matter, because neither one is very good. I'm afraid the next great UT QB isn't on campus at this time. Could be a long couple of years.
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Both are or can be good QBs. If used correctly.
 
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Run Pincher said:
I don't think he sucked this year. 4.7 ypc was equal to Carter and Young, all much better than Porter, who had the most carries. Considering how bad the OL was, Chris was actually pretty good, just didn't enough carries to wear defenses down and thus increase his ypc more.

One could make an argument Texas would have 3 more W's had Warren been used in certain goal line situations instead of Sam throwing the ball to the other team or Porter falling down when he was breathed on.
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Warren can't break a tackle. The first person that hits him, regardless of size, brings him down or knocks him out of bounds. I'll eat the appropriate amount of crow if Warren goes anywhere power 5, starts (that'll be a victory), and shreds defenses. I don't care what line is in front of him, his evasive skills don't exist.
 
Can we delete all Charlie threads? We can't erase his terrible record here but we don't have to give an ounce of thought to where he is or how he is doing. I wish he would lose every game he coaches.( We are paying for them still anyway)
 
Txreds said:
Can we delete all Charlie threads? We can't erase his terrible record here but we don't have to give an ounce of thought to where he is or how he is doing. I wish he would lose every game he coaches.( We are paying for them still anyway)
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It would seem you have three options:
  1. Force Dion to delete all Charlie threads
  2. Ignore all Charlie threads
  3. Retreat to The Safe Thread
 
zuckercanyon said:
Porter can't break a tackle. The first person that hits him, regardless of size, brings him down or knocks him out of bounds. I'll eat the appropriate amount of crow if Porter goes anywhere power 5, starts (that'll be a victory), and shreds defenses. I don't care what line is in front of him, his evasive skills don't exist.
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FIFY

Apparently you haven't watched much of Warren's career.

Yep, you're right Warren can't break a tackle. Duh!
 
Run Pincher said:
FIFY

Apparently you haven't watched much of Warren's career.

Yep, you're right Warren can't break a tackle. Duh!
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so you brought out old footage to make your point? those days are gone....
and I never said Porter was any better, just need for people to tear down their Warren statue....oops almost political....
 
Zucker,

You don't need a campaign to "tear down" the Warren statue. Some kid in a different school jersey walked by it and it fell backwards.

Please note the statue NEVER made any attempt to read the kid or block him.
 
A: Hmm why is it that Charlie did better at USF than at Texas, let's discuss the possible reasons.
B: We don't want him back.
C: Omg, he's gone. Move on!
D: Wait, you wish we'd kept him?!
Me: Uh, did you guys misread the OP?
 
zuckercanyon said:
so you brought out old footage to make your point? those days are gone....
and I never said Porter was any better, just need for people to tear down their Warren statue....oops almost political....
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I'm not going to post videos of the ISU and KSU games just to show a few plays where Chris actually got to carry the ball. He dragged 5 people into the end zone to win the KSU game. Saying Chris can't break tackles is like saying the earth is flat. I'm not going to try to defend him for his other weaknesses, but breaking tackles is the one thing he was excellent at. If it weren't for that he woulda never seen the field. Period!

Chris basically averaged the same 4.6 ypc as Young and Carter despite the fact his goal line carries brought his average down and the fact a couple of his longest runs were called back due to penalty. Chris ALWAYS got 2-3 yards even when he was blasted at the LOS by 3 DL. No other back on the team could do that and Porter went down against a strong wind.

I've read more posts than I can count on multiple forums and read multiple articles from a number of longhorn websites and the one thing I think they all agree on is Texas woulda won 2-3 more games giving the ball to Warren when it's 1st & goal from the 3 YL in. The fact that someone would post Chris can't break tackles is flat out bizarre despite his other weaknesses.
 
Because not everyone is fit to be the HC at Texas. This is a tough *** job.
Charlie has been successful as an HC in the past and in the right situation will be again as we saw this year. No need to bag on the guy. He tried it his way, it didn’t work, on to the next guy.
 
I remember Charley and his offensive genius Watson going into this bowl game with a 6-6 record and gaining 59 offensive yards against a bad Arky team.
I opine TH and Beck will gain more than 59 offensive yards tonight.

Charley is still a terrible coach, sorry I had bring up the last time we were in this bowl to release the repressed memories some have.
 
Run Pincher said:
I'm not going to post videos of the ISU and KSU games just to show a few plays where Chris actually got to carry the ball. He dragged 5 people into the end zone to win the KSU game. Saying Chris can't break tackles is like saying the earth is flat. I'm not going to try to defend him for his other weaknesses, but breaking tackles is the one thing he was excellent at. If it weren't for that he woulda never seen the field. Period!

Chris basically averaged the same 4.6 ypc as Young and Carter despite the fact his goal line carries brought his average down and the fact a couple of his longest runs were called back due to penalty. Chris ALWAYS got 2-3 yards even when he was blasted at the LOS by 3 DL. No other back on the team could do that and Porter went down against a strong wind.

I've read more posts than I can count on multiple forums and read multiple articles from a number of longhorn websites and the one thing I think they all agree on is Texas woulda won 2-3 more games giving the ball to Warren when it's 1st & goal from the 3 YL in. The fact that someone would post Chris can't break tackles is flat out bizarre despite his other weaknesses.
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Only if Ehlinger was there to push him into the end zone.
 
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