Save thousands of lives - ban guns!

I have been a hunter ever since my father could put a rifle in my hands. I have learned how to handle several different types of guns for the purposes of hunting or protection.

However I see ZERO reason for Americans to need semi-automatics, or clips with 30 bullets etc to protect themselves or to bring down game animals. I don't know what gun the kid in Ohio used- I don't care. Americans will always have arms, but I am sick and tired of the propaganda the NRA sends out trying to scare naive country folk that people in DC want to take away their 22 or .243 hunting rifle.

The second Amendment is wonderful and all but it ain't 1776 anymore or 1812. The US has a pretty good military last I heard so these military style weapons need to go.
 
Yes Roger, you are absolutely correct. Guns are bad, bad, bad. We need to immediately confiscate them and put an end to all violent crimes immediately.I've got no doubt that most, if not all, law-abiding criminals would willingly comply.

The huffington post? Really??? Grow a pair dude.
 
I dont' think we should ban guns but I too think there is little need for assault rifles, and there is some validity to the arguement that a smaller legal market, (ie only military and police sales) would limit the total volume of assault rifles and therefore substantially reduce the number of assault rifles that end up in criminal hands.
 
In our violent gun culture, statues like those in Ohio are essentially meaningless just as voter ID laws that will do nothing to address the rare occurrence of voter fraud are meaningless.
 
I've been down with this since forever. Pretending that a nation flush with guns that are easily accessible to all kinds of miscreants threatens our freedom.
 
Gun control is one issue I tend to side with republicans; that is, whenever they aren't themselves infringing on the 2nd amendment like the 1st Bush and Reagan.

In order for gun control to work criminals need to obey the law.
What's the definition of a criminal?
Someone who disobeys the law.
End of debate.
 
I think it bizarre that the NRA promotes an image of grandpa taking a youth out hunting to preserve family tradition, yet all its lobbying efforts are at the margins, making sure that the criminally insane and agents for Mexican drug dealers can go to gun shows and load up on firearms with no registrations or waiting periods.
 
Its quite remarkable to see many of the similarities between gun laws and drug laws. Even more amazing is to see pro-gun people use similar arguements that pro-drug people use against the war on drugs, and then folks from both sides flip-flop arguments when the issue flip-flops.
 
I am curious how many folks that support banning guns also support legalizing marijuana. Seems the underlying rationale for each argument is in direct conflict.

Sorry, Hornbud. Just saw your post. Exact same thoughts.
 
Without a long and porous border with a nation where there are few gun regulations, Britain and Japan do very well with strict gun regulations and, by our standards, amazingly peaceful societies. Of course, it's more than gun regulatons or lack thereof that make for a peaceful society. I think it wise to have some rules on gun ownership and gun transactions, particularly for weapons capable of spraying hundreds of rounds within a few seconds. I like the waiting period too. It's probably just anecdotal, but I lived in a small town where an overweight woman was left by her husband for a pretty young woman. She traded her wedding ring for a pistol at a pawn shop one afternoon, then that night shot her two children as they slept and then killed herself. I think a waiting period may have given more time to reason and cope. I used to be a reporter and watch a lot of criminal trials. Organized criminals get guns. But a lot of crime is random and spur of the moment. I've seen plenty of folks go to the pen, who were criminals only for a single violent incident where absence of a really convenient lethal weapon would have been a very good thing.

I'll agree wtih gun proponents that people kill people. The real war is for hearts and minds, not weapons. But intelligent attempts to regulate really lethal weapons make sense to me, so I'm not joining the NRA.
 
Something with capabilities beyond sporting purposes -- basically military style weapons and armor-piercing rounds.
 
Gun laws and schools are quite a dilemma. I will say this, I wish my son could pack a handgun with him to take to school. Lot's of dumb kids and dumb rules to worry about. His school's been on "lock down" twice this year. Also a baseball teammate of his was busted for having Advil in the center console of his vehicle on campus. Freaking Advil.
 
OK, I agree, weapons like an H&K MP5 should not be readily available for the average Joe.

But, the conundrum sets in when a .22 is not considered really lethal. The most recent Ohio school shooting took three lives with this simple and mediocre fire-powered weapon. Where does one draw the line on what constitutes an assault-caliber weapon?
 
I think we as Americans have said that we're not going to significantly restrict ownership of sporting weapons. Obviously a lot of them are going to end up in the hands of the stupid and a few in the hands of those who are genuinely evil. Politically, we've made it clear that we can live with those consequences. Still, I'd like it to be kinda complicated for the high school idiot to buy a uzi.
 
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