Romney: US needs to be more active on world stage

[huisache]

We need to be more active on the world stage. Right.

Like in Viet Nam, where MItt was notably absent, along with most of the rest of the Ivy Leaguers who got us in that mess.

LIke in the Mideast, where our various adventures have gotten us what? Thousands of dead, scores of thousands of permanently maimed, physically and mentally and we've made millions of friends as a result.

Might I suggest that we need to be less active in the world? We are not going to convert Iraqis into Jeffersonian liberals, Iranians into religiously tolerant republicans or a bunch of clannish, violence obsessed Afghans into pacifist kumbaya types.

We are punching tar babies and this draft dodging sos who was for our generation's war but declined to fight in it wants to pitch in some more chips? The chips are other peoples' sons and daughters. Where are his fighting these days?

I loathe obama but this guy is more of the same old neurotic dreams of conquest and empire. Let him go unload some body bags and get one of his sons sent home in one before he goes lusting after more wars.

 

[Bevo Incognito]

I was at a luncheon with Ron Paul about four years ago when he said something to the effect of "politicians are always anxious to send somebody else's kids off to war."

How many deferments did Romney receive? More or less than Cheney?

And did Romney mention how increased activity on the world stage would be financed?

 

[huisache]

Romney, Cheney and Biden are about equal in deferments.

 

[Horn6721]

BI
I wasn't able to watch the Romney speech. Did he call for spending as part of being involved?

Because we all can see how frugal BO has been And in the process has created diplomatic disasters.
Example. cutting back security in LIbya which got Americans killed while giving billions to the muslim brotherhood controlled Egypt.

Of the 2 BI who do you think would handle world situations better?

 

[Giovanni Jones]

According to Snopes, Mitt received four (4) deferments (3 for academic studies and 1 for serving as a "minister of religion" while performing Mormon missionary work in France). By the time his deferments were over, Mitt's birth date had been drawn at #300 in the Selective Service lottery (the highest number called was #195).

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[Horn6721]

Hmmm
this from Military Times Poll
Romney beats BO OVER 2-1
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mixture of active and retired with over 2/3 active duty.

You BO supporters better get out there and remind al military that they should not vote for Mitt. Hurry now

 

[huisache]

how about urging them to vote for neither? Unless, of course, they enjoy getting dismembered.

 

[Uninformed]

You can be more active internationally without going to war.

 

[Horn6721]

Huis
if you read the details of the poll you'd know that 60% have been deployed
and 80% are college grads including the enlisrted ranks

so they walked their talk and they still choose Romney.


I know that is hard for the BO supporters to grasp.

 

[Michtex]

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[Mr. Deez]

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[Horn6721]

Mich
question
which group within the military do you think will turn out to vote?

 

[Michtex]

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[Bevo Incognito]

Here's some levity for today's West Mall crowd. Watch and laugh, then go back to whatever you were railing at each other for:

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[Horn6721]

Mich
"I don't know"

yes you do know but apparently you don't have the integrity to own up.
that speaks volumes

OR
maybe we should consider that you really don't know from which group there will be more likely voters;
the pool of 18-22 yo newly enlisteds E1-E3
or the pool of E4 and up as well as all officers

that might speak volumes more

either way you should stop digging

 

[Michtex]

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[Bevo Incognito]

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[gecko]

While I will agree that recent military adventures have been costly in terms of lives and treasure, our overall disengagement is leading to an very unstable world. When the US is seen as weak the world goes to **** in a hurry.

 

[Horn6721]

Ok let's ALL pretend we don't know that older higer rated enlisted and officers are more liklely to vote than 18-22 y o;s
Yes let's all pretend we don't know that>

Which one of you< Mich or the Libertarian BI, would like to answer this?
Which group in the civlian population is more likely to vote? the 18-22 yo High schoolor GED grads- non college attending

or 23 and older college attending or graduated and working?

I I guess neither of you will know .

 

[Horn6721]

This vid, as one example, may explain better than anything why the people in the military who make up the higher ranked enlisted and the officer corps will not vote for BO. They and all this support them have not forgotten the leaks
nor have they forgotten that the ad Bo put out that said the consequences for BO IF the SEALS had been killed would have been bad.
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[Bevo Incognito]

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[Horn6721]

BI here is my post to Mich
"Mich
question
which group within the military do you think will turn out to vote?

and he answered he didn't know which group he thought would turn out to vote. My post back to him all but laughed at the thought that he didn't know which group he Thought would turn out

then you chimed in and as usual you could be bothered to actually read.

You are entitled to your opnions. You are not entitled to try to change my posts

Your posts like this are so typical.

 

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[huisache]

Horn6721: I am not an Obama supporter, He was one of only two democratic candidates for president in my long life that I refused to vote for, Arkansas Billy being the other, and I don't plan to vote for him this year either. Guess I'll vote for the guy who wants to legalize drugs, make the government smaller and quit fighting useless wars.

And that is not Mitt Romney, the mormon missionary to the French when he wished he could have been fighting in Viet Nam. His kids are all real patriots too and you wont be seeing any of the little cropped hair heroes in the middle east unless it is campaigning for daddy.

This bs about amping up our involvement or things will get worse is the same line of bs we heard about Viet Nam, and about the middle east. Reagan thought we needed to be more assertive in Lebanon and it got a bunch of marines blown up. It did encourage Osama to think we would cut and run at the sound of gunfire. W thought we needed to show Saddam what's for and we lost thousands more. And how to pay for it? Put it on the tab.

And all these armchair prussians seem to love sending others off to war. Let them go themselves and take their kids with them.

As for Obama, he is in over his head. He thought he could sing some Pete Singer songs and make everybody a pacifist. It doesn't work that way.

It is cheaper to bribe your enemies than blow them and their neighbors up. And it saves a lot of wear and tear on non combatants as well. I would rather pay for Khalid and Fatima's wedding than blow it up with drones. Lots cheaper and doesn't leave so many pissed off relatives.

I seem to recall that Deez lives in the Azores. WE got in there in WW II by bribing a fascist dictator. We are still there and haven't killed a single Portuguese.

 

[Horn6721]

Huis
You make sense much of the time although I don't always agree with you
This , from you
"It is cheaper to bribe your enemies than blow them and their neighbors up"
is brilliant in its truth
too vadn most people would be horrified at the thought.
We could have saved billions and lots of loved in Afghanistan is we'd done that

BUT
I wonder if that appeasement would have backfired on us in other parts of the ME
We can't bribe all the muslims who hate us

 

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