'Red River Shootout's decline'

While I don't TOTALLY disagree, Stewart Mandel still has such a doucheitude about him.

BEAT o.u.

Jules

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Hey, it's the offseason and Stewart appears to be replying to a Sooner's question.

I think he checked out Hornfans because his reply pretty much sums up the threads on this board.

So let's go win the 2008 Shootout and the 2008 Big XII Championship and make this game special again.

I can't wait to read Stewart this Jan writing about how the 2008 Shootout was the turning point in Texas undefeated 2008 season and 2008 MNC title.

Who's with me?!
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Speaking as a Texas grad and fan, 6-3 is one-sided, especially considering some of the asskickings the Horns have suffered from Stoops and crowd.
 
It's not stretching things to say the okies have dominated us most of the last decade, and blasted us with two of the worst beatings a UT team has taken from anybody. Mack's done great things with the program, but mostly, he hasn't handled the RRR nearly as well as most of us would like. Mandel wasn't too off base.
 
I agree with Mandel. The Red River Shootout is in a terrible decline. The decline is so bad, it's gotten to the point where the Red River Shootout has been replaced by the Red River Rivalry.

Seriously, though, there's nothing wrong with the state of the Texas-OU game. The 2008 game was an exciting, competitive contest, and both teams are still in the top tier of college football. The only thing that makes the Texas-OU game seem less central to the Big XII Championship is this surge of talent in the North Division (which, as it turns out, didn't change the fact that the winner of Texas-OU won the Big XII Championship).
 
I really has more to do with how the media covers it. They are so fascinated with the Michigan/OSU rivalries and UF/GA rivalries, etc.

Take a look at the OSU/Michigan games the last few years. Since 01 the record is 6-1 OSU with OSU winning the last 4. I don't see that trend reversing itself in upcoming years either. The games have been closer with an average margin of victory of 8-9 points.

UF vs. Georgia, in the world's largest outdoor cocktail party has been heavily one sided for Florida since 1990 with Florida winning 15 and Georgia winning only 3. Granted Georgia has won 2 out of the last 4.

The red river rivalry show cases the 2 best teams in the Big 12 since 00-01. UT dominated the 90's winning 7 out of 9. OU has won 6 of 8 thus far this decade. It has been more one sided but the the games in 07 and 01 were very close games. Even 06 was close at half and in the 4th QTR. But the bigger story about this rivalry of late is the importance of it. In the last 8 years these two teams have combined for 6 Big 12 titles, have made 4 national title appearance, and have won 2 titles. Thus even with the last 2 years showing a small dip in the importance of the game during rebuilding phases for both programs the winner of this game is very likely to win the Big 12 and play in the national title game. Show me anoter rivalry that puts up importance like that.

These 2 programs again have been rebuilding the last 2 years. Now they both bring back emerging leaders at the QB position and look to be a force in the national title race the next few seasons. To say this rivalry has lost steam can only come from a Big 10 or SEC homer.

I think with the new cotton bowl and expanded seating this game will catch even more national attention this year. This rivalry is just heating up IMO. Sit back and enjoy the next 4-6 years.
 
as much as it pains me, the rivalry has been one-sided. the fact that some hornfans were content with a competitive loss last year furthers the point. it is up to us to bring this game back to what it should be---THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL GAME OF THE YEAR.
 
Texas vs OU is a conference game while old Texas vs OU was a SWC vs Big 8 game...had more implications per se nationally...seems the rivalry is a bit more regional than in the past...
 
I don't care what the records are, that is my favorite day of the year without a doubt. The only decline I see is the day it leaves the Cotton Bowl.
 
I think that a fair perspective would be the last 10 games of a rivalry, which makes us 4-6 vs. ou. That is the most even record among the major games. Now for the most part only about 3 of those games were good or even close. While the other rivalry games may be one-sided they are better overall games. A little cake and I can eat it too.
 
I'm obviously not happy about going 3-6 against OU as of late, but the game itself isn't on the decline, that's just ridiculous.
 
Since 1950, when one of the two schools goes into the game undefeated, and wins, they have found themselves playing for a MNC in their last game a ridiculous amount of time. It's still one of the season's "gateway" games.
 
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