Recruiting is blowing up...

[Mesohorny]

good stuff, h-d. thanks for the summary.

 

[HornSwoggler]

Thanks for the update, H-D.

I wasn't very clear in what I wrote regarding the 85 limit. I was thinking hypothetically. I intended to put in that the 85 max applied but when it came to JUCOs in the Spring semester, I was unclear. Also, I haven't found anything that allows or limits the number of JUCOs beyond the 25 annual limit.

My reading of the rule is that at any time, there can be no more than 85 on football scholarships...period. If Seniors do not graduate or leave in December, they remain on scholarship until May, correct?

What about this scenario:
If a JUCO or high schooler comes in for the Spring but all the 85 scholarships are still being used by the previous season's players, the newcomer has to foot the bill for a semester. That is regardless of a JUCO counting against a previous year's 25. That might prevent an early enrollee from enrolling.

This will not happen to the Horns this year as there are numerous scholarships available due to early graduations and transfers. Plus, some that intend to play pro ball drop out to work out for the combine or hook on as free agents.

 

[HornSwoggler]

Thanks for the update, H-D.

I wasn't very clear in what I wrote regarding the 85 limit. I was thinking hypothetically. I intended to put in that the 85 max applied but when it came to JUCOs in the Spring semester, I was unclear.

My reading of the rule is that at any time, there can be no more than 85 on football scholarships...period. If Seniors do not graduate or leave in December, they remain on scholarship until May, correct?

What about this scenario:
If a JUCO or high schooler comes in for the Spring but all the 85 scholarships are still being used by the previous season's players, the newcomer has to foot the bill for a semester. That is regardless of a JUCO counting against a previous year's 25. That might prevent an early enrollee from enrolling.

This will not happen to the Horns this year as there are numerous scholarships available due to early graduations and transfers. Plus, some that intend to play pro ball drop out to work out for the combine or hook on as free agents.

 

[bazbo]

You need to remember that these are offers at this point - no one can pull a ship b/c it isn't a ship - it's an offer.

Only a few players will get open ended offers from Mack, i.e. ones that remain open until signing day. Most players will get an offer and if they don't take it, the coaches will offer it to the next best on their list. Only a J. Gray, DGB, Vince Young, etc. will get open ended offers for whom the coaches will keep a spot open until Feb. 2.

 

[H-D Rider]

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[OrangeClad]

Not so sure about that spring semester comment. It was my understanding that walk-ons, academic ship guys and other sports' ship guys can practice, but once once any other type of ship player actually steps foot on the field to play, they must automatically be counted against the 85 total. Since there are no games in the spring, that could not happen. Maybe it has changed, but that is the way it was.

 

[bishophorn]

Guys that 85 grants number will be met for the Fall semester. Any attrition that goes on during the spring or summer will settle at 85 or less, it always does. Not to worry.

 

[HornSwoggler]

I agree, b-horn. I just like to play with the numbers in my spare time.
Seeing as how most large schools have a recruiting coordinator and most likely a professional staff to dot the i's and cross the t's, it better work out.

I just hate to see a kid get shoved out the door to make room for the next hot item. So far, UT has kept from doing this as far as the public knows. They surely have told a few that they won't get to play or their effort or conduct does not meet the team's standards over the years and many of these guys have left for greener pastures. But I don't know of any that were told, "Hit the road because we need the numbers to work out." Maybe it is a fine line between the situations but it is an important line to me. There are instances by some teams that oversign where a kid is left out to dry after being promised a slot.

If a player is brought in on a scholarship and tries his best and contributes to the team, he should keep the scholarship unless there is a conduct or grade issue, IMHO. If he wants to leave for more playing time or personal issues, no problem.

 

[Horns11]

Hell, we could get it up to 90-something like Nutt always did and just say adios to some benchwarmers who haven't made progress towards a degree. Everyone's got 'em.