Really Mr. President?

I have a slightly different take on the subject. He still wants to be the candidate of change but up until this point has nothing new to offer. This allows him to:
1.Shore up his base.
2. Continue to be the candidate of change.
3. Distract from the poor economy.

Unlike some other posters, I think that there are quite a few people that would consider themselves D voters that are not happy with this. Look at the 69-31 margin of victory in NC. I would guess that nearly 20% of those voters were Ds.

This is not a party line issue as much as some others. Certainly more Ds favor gay marriage than Rs but it is also a urban vs rural issue and a young vs old issue. Most of my urban, young, R friends support gay marriage. I do as well.

Long term this issue will be a winner for the Ds.
 
First, my vote does not hinge on this issue.

Second, everything that the President or Vice President says on this issue is highly vetted before either of them said anything. It is highly cordinated, don't fool yourself.

Third, they came out with this issue now so it does not become a hot button close to the election.

Fourth, they were trying to take the news cycle away from the primary days of Tuesday and the Tea Party''s success.

Fifth, he has given up on North Carolina, if not he would have come out before Tuesday with this statement.

This was a politcial strategy move that was highly calculated.
 
True, major. He is by far the most calculated President in history. From his Friday evening 'bad news' dumps to his cunning coincidences to make statements at the same time his opponents have had success, he has Saul Alinski's playbook down to a T.
 
Mich, it is convenient to pick out the Tea Party folks that lost and leave out the huge victories they had Tuesday, and in 2010.
 
Michtex:

You may want to look at the Polling numbers in North Carolina, Obama will not win NC in 2012.

Still calling them clowns, at least they are trying to replace career poltiicians, and so far have been pretty successful.

Where are your Occupy candidates?
 
Yes. It was more than a primary, did you not hear the news about Gay Marriage in North Carolina, oh yea it was overshadowed by someone else's announcement on Wednesday.......I wonder why, Obama will not win NC in 2012.

Where are your Occupy Candidates do you have any?
 
Did anyone catch the WashPro hit piece on Romney from someone accusing him of harassing a gay student back in his high school days?

Good thing we don't have the Obama campaign coordinating messages with the WashPro.
 
Obama's homosexual marraige stance just gave millions of people the impetus to vote for a Morman. Pretty sure you are going to see a solid south this November.
 
So Michtex, how relevant do you think it is to dig down and find annecdotes concerning a presidential candidate's behavior and actions as a schoolboy? Do you think what Romney may have done as a high schooler 50 years ago is relevant to his candidacy? If so, why? If not, then why is the story being released the day after Obama's gay marriage announcement?
 
You really think that a presidential candidate should publically admit to a specific act from 50 years ago, particularly when it would require accepting the account that has been put forward even if you can't remember how exactly the events unfolded?

I have no idea if he does or does not remember, or how much he remembers. I also have no idea why it's important 50 years later for him to even be in a position to HAVE to have a complete recall of the instance.

But you dodged the question. Is it or is it not relevant?
 
Damn, now we are going to have to hear about the time in Indonesia when Barry slapped the bowl of dog stew out the Hindu kids hands in elementary school.
 
Michtex, is Romney's highschool bullying incident is a worse thing for a Presidential candidate to have been involved in than, say, a sitting President's past coke habit?


I'll hang up and listen....
 
Yes, I do. And I remember that being done as a direct response to the stink that was raised about Romney driving his dog around in a cart on top of his car. I don't remember posting on either one of those topics, so I can't really speak to their motivations other than the timing.

I would add that your parallel would make more sense if the Washington Post had dug into his history and written an 11-page article on it.
 
There are so many other much more imporant things we could be spending our time on....like the economy. Who really cares about this? I know there are bible thumping folks on the left and right that will say this is so wrong, blah blah blah, but why even waste the breath on it right now.

We need to be focusing on the economy and getting our country back on the right track fiscally....which of course is why he said this in the first place because he knows he will lose the economic battle!
 
Ok, Shiner, Perham and Brotha convinced me. This was a calculated move. Biden and Obama volunteered this issue and expect it to energize the base. I live in Texas, lost to Obama anyway, and voters' irrational hostility here to monagomous gay relations doesn't set the national standard.
 
and in the 2008 North Carolina primary 2,116,649 turned out.

Obama will not win North Carolina in 2012, the writing is on the wall and this is just the beginning. If you don't get it, even your liberal media is saying how tough it is going to be for Obama to win North Carolina. It went from Leans Republican to Repbulican.

Lame Duck Walking!!!!!!
 
TobyHorn, it was more like 15 million.
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