Racist?
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CedarParkFan
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OK Satchel I'll help your little Afro American centrist mind out on this. Since you are incapable or unwilling to provide a simple answer to this.
What if the quote were as follows:
“We got to do something about these blacks coming in and opening up businesses and dirty shops,” Barry said on Tuesday night, according to video posted by WRC-TV/NBC4. “They ought to go. I’m going to say that right now. But we need white businesspeople to be able to take their places, too.”
You would obviously call that racism. And rightfully so. But, since a black said it then it must be ok. Or at least there must be some underlying cause or reason. Black racism is alive an well and I'm not afraid to say it. Quit making excuses for "your" people. As a matter of fact I'm of the belief that blacks (in general) are more racist than whites in this day and time. Flame away. Call me a bigot. I could care less. Racism is racism and you, of all people, should be able to recognize it. So, to answer your original post: Yes, it's absolute racism and he needs to be called on it. Blacks don't get a free pass.
What if the quote were as follows:
“We got to do something about these blacks coming in and opening up businesses and dirty shops,” Barry said on Tuesday night, according to video posted by WRC-TV/NBC4. “They ought to go. I’m going to say that right now. But we need white businesspeople to be able to take their places, too.”
You would obviously call that racism. And rightfully so. But, since a black said it then it must be ok. Or at least there must be some underlying cause or reason. Black racism is alive an well and I'm not afraid to say it. Quit making excuses for "your" people. As a matter of fact I'm of the belief that blacks (in general) are more racist than whites in this day and time. Flame away. Call me a bigot. I could care less. Racism is racism and you, of all people, should be able to recognize it. So, to answer your original post: Yes, it's absolute racism and he needs to be called on it. Blacks don't get a free pass.
CedarParkFan
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ProdigalHorn
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Namewithheld
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So do you think that if blacks came to this Country the same way the majority of Asians they would be as prosperous as the Asians are now? I say for the most part (not all by any means) no due to cultural differences with family, friends etc.
Oh, and let me tell you about the store half a block away where I got stuff at. You would walk in to a corridor of bullet proof glass and you could go down the main aisle or two side ones, only. A person would get the items you would point at. They would walk them over to the register behind glass and ring em up.
You put your money in a slot and they gave you change. They then put your items on a carousel thing and slid it around to you. As costly as that was they did it so they would not lose another child of theirs in a robbery which prompted it. Thank heavens they were there because they stayed open later for the people who worked later than early evening. There was no Metro subway up there yet.
Yeah, I know stores too. So you don't get to go there any more. Find a new shtick, you've been served.
You put your money in a slot and they gave you change. They then put your items on a carousel thing and slid it around to you. As costly as that was they did it so they would not lose another child of theirs in a robbery which prompted it. Thank heavens they were there because they stayed open later for the people who worked later than early evening. There was no Metro subway up there yet.
Yeah, I know stores too. So you don't get to go there any more. Find a new shtick, you've been served.
Namewithheld
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CedarParkFan
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Satchel,
If a white or asian said the same thing about blacks that that little **** barry said about asians, you'd be screaming racism at the top of your lungs. He, like you, are nothing more than an angry black man who is a little more than culturally biased. Black racism is alive and well in America ! Yes, Satch, I'm point blank calling you a racist. I'm calling you, the nbpp, Jackson, Sharpton, Spike Lee, etc . . . all racists. I'm doing it in front of everyone on this board - including the moderators. Why? Because it needs to be done. It's kind of sad that some people these days are too scared to call it like it is. The double standard is pathetic. Again, you don't get a free pass because you are a minority. Get it? No, I'm afraid you don't.
If a white or asian said the same thing about blacks that that little **** barry said about asians, you'd be screaming racism at the top of your lungs. He, like you, are nothing more than an angry black man who is a little more than culturally biased. Black racism is alive and well in America ! Yes, Satch, I'm point blank calling you a racist. I'm calling you, the nbpp, Jackson, Sharpton, Spike Lee, etc . . . all racists. I'm doing it in front of everyone on this board - including the moderators. Why? Because it needs to be done. It's kind of sad that some people these days are too scared to call it like it is. The double standard is pathetic. Again, you don't get a free pass because you are a minority. Get it? No, I'm afraid you don't.
Um, there were Asian slaves here, doing things like building the "Chinese railroad" and they have managed just fine. Asians were not enslaved, but interred at camps during WWII even if they were established, hard -working American citizens and they did just fine.
Vietnamese came over with nothing but the clothes on their back, into an unfriendly America and worked their asses off at menial job and worked their way up.
Asians, in general, kick our asses in school, math, engineering etc. and that is because of simple, hard work and not having a chip on their shoulder over things that happened long ago.
Right now the man who cuts my grass, (and is probably illeglal since he insists on cash) is probably in his 60's, has my whole heighborhood as customers and a crew of around 8 guys that hammer it out, rain or shine. He has put 2 sons through college.
I know there is no way on earth I will ever know what it is like to be black, but I have been discriminated against in other ways, as I am sure many of us have. I have ultimate respect for anyone who puts in the time, work and effort to rise above circumstances and make things better for the next generation. Non matter the color--there is white trash too, that needs to be/should be any parent's concern...and as a member of society, not RACE, people should focus on making themselves the best they can when there are resources a plenty for those who want them. Put your best foot forward, make a good impression, and help others and you should so fine.
Vietnamese came over with nothing but the clothes on their back, into an unfriendly America and worked their asses off at menial job and worked their way up.
Asians, in general, kick our asses in school, math, engineering etc. and that is because of simple, hard work and not having a chip on their shoulder over things that happened long ago.
Right now the man who cuts my grass, (and is probably illeglal since he insists on cash) is probably in his 60's, has my whole heighborhood as customers and a crew of around 8 guys that hammer it out, rain or shine. He has put 2 sons through college.
I know there is no way on earth I will ever know what it is like to be black, but I have been discriminated against in other ways, as I am sure many of us have. I have ultimate respect for anyone who puts in the time, work and effort to rise above circumstances and make things better for the next generation. Non matter the color--there is white trash too, that needs to be/should be any parent's concern...and as a member of society, not RACE, people should focus on making themselves the best they can when there are resources a plenty for those who want them. Put your best foot forward, make a good impression, and help others and you should so fine.
CedarParkFan
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Here's the rest of the story:
In a statement, he says he is “deeply apologetic for any harm that I have caused."
On Tuesday night in the hours after securing another primary victory for City Council in Ward 8, Barry told his supporters this:
"We got to do something about these Asians coming in and opening up businesses and dirty shops. They ought to go. I'm going to say that right now. But we need African-American businesspeople to be able to take their places too."
But until about 4 p.m. Thursday, Barry refused to back down, telling reporters in his office the Asian merchants needed a new attitude. Barry criticized the merchants for not reinvesting in the community and suggesting the ward would be better off with merchants from Ethiopia.
It is a comment the former mayor and civil rights worker attempted to clarify during an interview.
"What they should do is come in with a different attitude, an attitude of being part of the community, of cleaning these stores up, having them spic and span like they do in Ward 3 and some other places,” said Barry. “Take down that Plexiglas. I know it’s a safety issue. It’s wrong to come into a community, take their money and take it to Virginia, Maryland or somewhere, not become part of the community, not help the community, not give out supplies and books and things like that.”
But by 5:30 p.m., Barry had a change of heart and released a statement which reads in part:
“I am sorry that my choice of words in expressing my discontent with some of the Asian business owners in my Ward offended the Asian American Community and I am deeply apologetic for any harm that I have caused.”
City Council Chairman Kwame Brown called Barry’s comments “divisive” while Ward 6 Councilmember Tommy Wells called the comments “deplorable.”
Sandra Seegars, who ran against Barry in the primary, thinks his comments are political.
"I think he was gearing up to say that because quite a few businesses in Ward 8, most of them supported me and gave me money and they let me put my posters in my windows,” said Seegars.
Susan Allen, the President of the Pan Asian American Chamber of Commerce feels the same way, saying she has never known Barry to be mean spirited.
"Marion Barry is not a person with a mean heart. I've knew many years ago and I think he is a good person, but politics makes people do and say strange things,” said Allen.
Allen said she is ready willing and able to work with Barry and the Ward 8 merchants in hopes of better understanding each other.
Read more:The Link
In a statement, he says he is “deeply apologetic for any harm that I have caused."
On Tuesday night in the hours after securing another primary victory for City Council in Ward 8, Barry told his supporters this:
"We got to do something about these Asians coming in and opening up businesses and dirty shops. They ought to go. I'm going to say that right now. But we need African-American businesspeople to be able to take their places too."
But until about 4 p.m. Thursday, Barry refused to back down, telling reporters in his office the Asian merchants needed a new attitude. Barry criticized the merchants for not reinvesting in the community and suggesting the ward would be better off with merchants from Ethiopia.
It is a comment the former mayor and civil rights worker attempted to clarify during an interview.
"What they should do is come in with a different attitude, an attitude of being part of the community, of cleaning these stores up, having them spic and span like they do in Ward 3 and some other places,” said Barry. “Take down that Plexiglas. I know it’s a safety issue. It’s wrong to come into a community, take their money and take it to Virginia, Maryland or somewhere, not become part of the community, not help the community, not give out supplies and books and things like that.”
But by 5:30 p.m., Barry had a change of heart and released a statement which reads in part:
“I am sorry that my choice of words in expressing my discontent with some of the Asian business owners in my Ward offended the Asian American Community and I am deeply apologetic for any harm that I have caused.”
City Council Chairman Kwame Brown called Barry’s comments “divisive” while Ward 6 Councilmember Tommy Wells called the comments “deplorable.”
Sandra Seegars, who ran against Barry in the primary, thinks his comments are political.
"I think he was gearing up to say that because quite a few businesses in Ward 8, most of them supported me and gave me money and they let me put my posters in my windows,” said Seegars.
Susan Allen, the President of the Pan Asian American Chamber of Commerce feels the same way, saying she has never known Barry to be mean spirited.
"Marion Barry is not a person with a mean heart. I've knew many years ago and I think he is a good person, but politics makes people do and say strange things,” said Allen.
Allen said she is ready willing and able to work with Barry and the Ward 8 merchants in hopes of better understanding each other.
Read more:The Link
Barry apologized because he is a politician and that is what you do. He apologized when he was caught smoking crack too. The next question is why does he get re-elected? I suspect because he was the only black in a largely black electoral segment. Am I wrong?
If not, are you telling me that his opponent had a worse record?
If not, are you telling me that his opponent had a worse record?
NEWDOC2002
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Okay.
A couple of my staff were at a table talking and I overheard one of them say Marion was "the man!". I asked how that was and she clued me in.
Basically because he "stuck it to Whitey". I asked just how he did that and was given the example of snow plowing streets after a bad storm. The city crews of course did the Capital area first but he had the trucks hit up S.E. and Anacostia before he did the N.W. and especially the more white areas as it was told to me. Haha, he showed them! That was the gist of it.
I smiled and asked a few questions. I will call her K. K, do you get paid when you don't come to work for a shift? No. What happens when you call in even in bad weather without proper notice? Write up.
Okay, well, Whitey up here has this thing called salary and he gets sick days more than likely. So if the weather is bad and he cannot get out of the driveway or the roads are dangerous, esp. if his kids are home for the day...he calls in and gets paid.
So he stays in bed and sleeps in a bit before heading out to do things.
You, however, all of you, get to wait for the bus which can now run because the streets got plowed down there. Where does the sleet, salt and muck go? Yup, the sidewalk, on the bus stops. So you get to stand around in the cold getting splashed by slush in crappy salty piles of ice and snow for your bus to get to work.
You get in and it's slow for awhile because Whitey is sleeping in. When he wakes up and decides he doesn't want to cook guess where he goes? Yup, a restaurant like ours.
Now, how exactly does having your streets plowed earlier show Whitey anything other than how to extend his dream while sleeping? Knowing that if you cannot get in due to bad roads for buses you won't get into any trouble at all, how do you benefit other than 3 or 4 extra hours of minimum wage for a waiter of a couple of bucks?
They sat and the response was something like, "************, ain't that just about ****?! Damn, he doesn't do **** else but get busted for drugs, hookers and running game."
They all said they voted for him when he got out of jail and that they wouldn't again. Turns out they just didn't vote. The luster wore off.
They did not speak for every person in the District but they sure did echo the sentiment I overheard many times at parties, on buses or subways. Marion Barry was seen as one of them in a way even if they did not do crack. He "kept it real".
He was voted in on all the wrong things and out of spite in some ways. Period.
Though I doubt he would remember me I have met him and was around him a fair amount and have witnessed transgressions first hand with my own eyes in an establishment I was a manager at as well. It was early in the morning and quite an entourage. Actually, an intimidating one.
What cracked me up is when he got bused in jail for having a hooker visit him and trying to get a little sumpin' sumpin' on the visit. Sorry, it is not one of those visits buddy.
A couple of my staff were at a table talking and I overheard one of them say Marion was "the man!". I asked how that was and she clued me in.
Basically because he "stuck it to Whitey". I asked just how he did that and was given the example of snow plowing streets after a bad storm. The city crews of course did the Capital area first but he had the trucks hit up S.E. and Anacostia before he did the N.W. and especially the more white areas as it was told to me. Haha, he showed them! That was the gist of it.
I smiled and asked a few questions. I will call her K. K, do you get paid when you don't come to work for a shift? No. What happens when you call in even in bad weather without proper notice? Write up.
Okay, well, Whitey up here has this thing called salary and he gets sick days more than likely. So if the weather is bad and he cannot get out of the driveway or the roads are dangerous, esp. if his kids are home for the day...he calls in and gets paid.
So he stays in bed and sleeps in a bit before heading out to do things.
You, however, all of you, get to wait for the bus which can now run because the streets got plowed down there. Where does the sleet, salt and muck go? Yup, the sidewalk, on the bus stops. So you get to stand around in the cold getting splashed by slush in crappy salty piles of ice and snow for your bus to get to work.
You get in and it's slow for awhile because Whitey is sleeping in. When he wakes up and decides he doesn't want to cook guess where he goes? Yup, a restaurant like ours.
Now, how exactly does having your streets plowed earlier show Whitey anything other than how to extend his dream while sleeping? Knowing that if you cannot get in due to bad roads for buses you won't get into any trouble at all, how do you benefit other than 3 or 4 extra hours of minimum wage for a waiter of a couple of bucks?
They sat and the response was something like, "************, ain't that just about ****?! Damn, he doesn't do **** else but get busted for drugs, hookers and running game."
They all said they voted for him when he got out of jail and that they wouldn't again. Turns out they just didn't vote. The luster wore off.
They did not speak for every person in the District but they sure did echo the sentiment I overheard many times at parties, on buses or subways. Marion Barry was seen as one of them in a way even if they did not do crack. He "kept it real".
He was voted in on all the wrong things and out of spite in some ways. Period.
Though I doubt he would remember me I have met him and was around him a fair amount and have witnessed transgressions first hand with my own eyes in an establishment I was a manager at as well. It was early in the morning and quite an entourage. Actually, an intimidating one.
What cracked me up is when he got bused in jail for having a hooker visit him and trying to get a little sumpin' sumpin' on the visit. Sorry, it is not one of those visits buddy.
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