Probable overturning of Roe v Wade

Jen Psaki has perfected her propaganda skills and is ready to take those skills to MSNBC for the DNC. Anybody know her home address?
 
theiioftx said:
The democrats will **** the bed with one issue that might energize their base.
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if they continue to protest at the SCOTUS homes and then they follow through on protesting at Catholic churches, they will really light a fire under anyone that seems themselves as being Christian. Even if you happen to be that rare Catholic that supports abortion access, you are not going to like them protesting at your church. Especially if they start hurling the expletives and accusations that these protest usually involve.
 
BrntOrngStmpeDe said:
if they continue to protest at the SCOTUS homes and then they follow through on protesting at Catholic churches, they will really light a fire under anyone that seems themselves as being Christian. Even if you happen to be that rare Catholic that supports abortion access, you are not going to like them protesting at your church. Especially if they start hurling the expletives and accusations that these protest usually involve.
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Will they hit up Biden's Catholic Church? And curious why not non-Catholic churchs? Also, how about Catholic hospitals and universities? Perhaps a burnt to a crisp Notre Dame Stadium for opening weekend?
 
@Mr. Deez

I have a question for your legal brain. Do you take anything from Alito's references to other case law in the opinion? The cases that effectively legalized same sex marriage, removed laws against sodomy, etc.

I've read some weird things about Alito's involvement in some of the uber conservative circles of Catholicism. Think about some of the Hollywood dramatizations of them in the Dan Brown stories. I'm curious what a smart legal mind thinks.
 
guy4321 said:
Will they hit up Biden's Catholic Church? And curious why not non-Catholic churchs? Also, how about Catholic hospitals and universities? Perhaps a burnt to a crisp Notre Dame Stadium for opening weekend?
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I mean, I can get on board with the stadium thing...
 
The far left doesn’t realize it’s not just the Catholic Church. But that’s their mantra - don’t educate yourself about other beliefs.
 
OUBubba said:
@Mr. Deez

I have a question for your legal brain. Do you take anything from Alito's references to other case law in the opinion? The cases that effectively legalized same sex marriage, removed laws against sodomy, etc.

I've read some weird things about Alito's involvement in some of the uber conservative circles of Catholicism. Think about some of the Hollywood dramatizations of them in the Dan Brown stories. I'm curious what a smart legal mind thinks.
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Coach, there are a couple of things to unpack here. For starters, I don't just reject Roe and Casey, I reject the entire substantive due process doctrine (the idea that the due process clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments create new substantive rights not listed in the Constitution) that supports them. The doctrine invites abuse of judicial power, and not only is it not supported by the text of the Constitution, it's in stark opposition to it. In fact, the very term "substantive due process" is as oxymoronic as "intelligent Sooner" or "smart Aggie." (You didn't think I could answer your question without an insult, did you?)

Accordingly, though I agree with the logic of Alto's lengthy analysis about how the right to an abortion isn't "fundamental" or "rooted in history," I reject the doctrine that makes such analysis necessary. That means I would not only overrule Roe, I'd overrule an assload of cases, including but not limited to Lawrence (invalidated sodomy laws), Griswold (invalidated laws against birth control), City of Chicago v. McDonald (held that state governments can't restrict the right to bear arms), and the due process component of Obergefell (nationally recognized same-sex marriage).

Having said that, Alito and the rest of the Court clearly disagree with me on that front, and he does explain convincingly why they view abortion differently than they view same-sex marriage or birth control. Specifically, abortion involves ending a life or at least a potential life, and that's pretty significant. There's at least arguably an innocent victim in an abortion whose interests a state should be allowed to consider and protect. There isn't in same-sex marriage or birth control, and it's ridiculous to ignore that distinction. It's big.

Having said that, do I see the potential for issues to arise regarding certain types of birth control that allow for conception but avoid implantation? Theoretically, yes if a state decided to get tangled up in that issue.

Do I think there's real potential for the Court to overturn Lawrence or Obergefell? No.
 
theiioftx said:
The far left doesn’t realize it’s not just the Catholic Church. But that’s their mantra - don’t educate yourself about other beliefs.
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The Catholic Church has provided an unwavering beacon calling to respect life from conception to its natural end.

From the link, dateline 2002
Our firm conviction as Catholics that "life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception" (Second Vatican Council's Pastoral Constitution on the Church in the Modern World, no. 51) has been a part of the Church's constant witness since the Apostolic age and has inspired millions to defend human life at every stage.

It is this stance, and the fact that it is indeed winning hearts to the pro-life side, that has made the left decide to target our churches. They can target away, rage away, and behave like spoiled children all they want. We will remain prayerful and committed to spreading the culture of life to counter their culture of death.
 
You cannot make this up.

"Senator Mazie Hirono @maziehirono I can’t think of a single comparable thing that the government can do to men that even comes close to forcing a woman to have a child.

Can you?"


she needs to learn some history. How many of our young men who were drafted BY the gov't died?

The woman is a loon.
 
Horn6721 said:
You cannot make this up.

"Senator Mazie Hirono @maziehirono I can’t think of a single comparable thing that the government can do to men that even comes close to forcing a woman to have a child.

Can you?"


she needs to learn some history. How many of our young men who were drafted BY the gov't died?

The woman is a loon.
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The logical fallacies and just flat-out lies abortion rights advocates pitch to divert attention away from what they defend is just incredible. There's really no issue quite like it.
 
Police should remove protesters that are in front of private homes, even violently. The fact that they aren't shows who they work for, the Marxist revolution. Should we trust police departments?
 
Monahorns said:
Police should remove protesters that are in front of private homes, even violently. The fact that they aren't shows who they work for, the Marxist revolution. Should we trust police departments?
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I don't blame local police for not arresting people for violating federal law. I definitely do blame federal law enforcement officers for not doing it. It's their whole friggin job. Garland should be fired for this.
 
Mr. Deez said:
I don't blame local police for not arresting people for violating federal law. I definitely do blame federal law enforcement officers for not doing it. It's their whole friggin job. Garland should be fired for this.
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This is something I admit I don't know much about. What federal law enforcement should be arresting unlawful protest? FBI? Hahahahahaha! They are working for the Marxist revolution. You better find someone else.
 
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