Pete Kwiatkowski

[moondog_LFZ]

Look at the 4th and 1 against OU where Caleb goes for 50-60 yds. How does a defense not lay a hand on that guy?

I've seen that happen many times on 4th and one.
Even in the pros.
(I think Dorsett's 99 yard TD was on such a play.)
Everybody hits the line to stop the run.
If the runner happens to squeak through there is nobody in the backfield to stop him.
Not that uncommon.

 

[mchammer]

However, Casey's fumble was pretty much same as Card's.
Blame it on holding the ball too long or the OL.

Back in August, I said the QB holding the ball too long created fumbles but two geniuses on here gave me the poop symbol.

 

[horninchicago]

If you score 49 in regulation against the worst team in the league, you should win.

That is exactly what happened. KU won.

 

[MajorRules00]

I agree in the historically bad part. When has Texas ever been lower? It was bad when Charlie Strong lost to Kansas and got fired. But this is worse! Has it EVEr been this bad.

but if Sark starts firing assistants after year 1 I wished he would just resign instead.
were not 4-6 just because of coach k. Our offense has been **** half the year too!

I disagree on the firing issue. If a boss makes a bad hire, he/she is obligated to fix the mistake ASAP. The worst thing to do is to keep the bad employee for PR reasons.

 

[SabreHorn]

When Mack Brown couldn't beat Bob Stoops or stop OU or Baylor or Tech, he brought in Greg Robinson (whee, all you fans of his wet your pants), but even MB knew he was a symbol to quieten BMDs. Mack Brown brought in Dick Tomey in 2004 as a consultant to run the defense and advise on ingame decisions. Watch the 2004 games; Dick roamed the sidelines stopping frequently in front of Mack to offer "suggestions". That coaching built the 2005 defense, not GR, who called the wrong defense on 4th down in the Rose Bowl. Thank the Good Lord that Brian Robinson ignored the "genius DC" and stopped Lyndell White short. Called defense would have resulted in first down and we LOSE!

That said, Sark needs to bring in Bill Bradley as a defensive consultant to get K straightened out.

One more call Sark needs to make, and it would be extremely unpopular around here, but I'm sending him an email suggesting it.

 

[Run Pincher]

Really?
CT's fumbles and INT's (one in the end zone) had nothing to do with it?
We don't have a good, much less great, QB on the roster it seems.
Not to mention the entire defensive squad.

Casey's better than Hudson with 10 hurt fingers and the fumbles were not the same. Hudson just stood there like a statue. And don't even get me started on the interceptions. Trying to make a play in the end zone always has some risk, but there's no words for how ignorant it is to throw an out when it's easy to see the CB is ready to jump the route.

 

[Crockett]

We can see the symptoms but we don't know the cause. Is there bad chemistry among the coaches or just between the players and the coaches. Are the players a bad scheme fit or just not talented enough?

 

[horninchicago]

We can see the symptoms but we don't know the cause. Is there bad chemistry among the coaches or just between the players and the coaches. Are the players a bad scheme fit or just not talented enough?

Where have you been?

 

[SabreHorn]

We can see the symptoms but we don't know the cause. Is there bad chemistry among the coaches or just between the players and the coaches. Are the players a bad scheme fit or just not talented enough?

I sincerely hope this is meant to be sarcasm.

 

[TexasFight86]

And just what scheme or combination of players will make this shitshow defense any better.................

A scheme that teaches LBs and Safeties not to dive into empty holes (attacking) but rather stays home and keeps everything in front.

stop running 2 high safeties when getting shredded and use one to add run support

 

[TexasFight86]

I've seen that happen many times on 4th and one.
Even in the pros.
(I think Dorsett's 99 yard TD was on such a play.)
Everybody hits the line to stop the run.
If the runner happens to squeak through there is nobody in the backfield to stop him.
Not that uncommon.

Also not good defense

 

[dukesteer]

That said, Sark needs to bring in Bill Bradley as a defensive consultant to get K straightened out.

I have agreed with the suggestion of using Bradley every time you have made it. Sark would be very wise to take your advice. Inaction (what we have now) is perceived as reinforcement that Sark doesn’t know what to do. And frankly, he probably doesn’t.

 

[Chop]

I'd like us to try some continuity for a change. Give them their fair chance--Sark and his assistants. Charlie got 3 years.

But if we absolutely must start anew at DC, Gary Patterson would make a heck of a DC. Not saying he'd bump down from a HC to a DC (at a much higher profile program), but you never know.

 

[Detective Shilala]

As pissed off as I am at Sark and Katcowski I am with you Chop. Firing everyone every three years is not working. Let’s see this **** show through.
Plus firing his *** is letting him off the hook.
If we have to suffer through this **** so should he.

 

[Statalyzer]

Greg Robinson was not our DC in 2005.

 

[SabreHorn]

ok

 

[Chop]

When Mack Brown couldn't beat Bob Stoops or stop OU or Baylor or Tech, he brought in Greg Robinson (whee, all you fans of his wet your pants), but even MB knew he was a symbol to quieten BMDs. Mack Brown brought in Dick Tomey in 2004 as a consultant to run the defense and advise on ingame decisions. Watch the 2004 games; Dick roamed the sidelines stopping frequently in front of Mack to offer "suggestions". That coaching built the 2005 defense, not GR, who called the wrong defense on 4th down in the Rose Bowl. Thank the Good Lord that Brian Robinson ignored the "genius DC" and stopped Lyndell White short. Called defense would have resulted in first down and we LOSE!

That said, Sark needs to bring in Bill Bradley as a defensive consultant to get K straightened out.

One more call Sark needs to make, and it would be extremely unpopular around here, but I'm sending him an email suggesting it.

Yep, another great PAC 10 (and Hawaii) defensive genius, Dick Tomey, saved our bacon and built our great defense up for our National Championship run and the preceding year.

 

[MajorRules00]

Yep, another great PAC 10 (and Hawaii) defensive genius, Dick Tomey, saved our bacon and built our great defense up for our National Championship run and the preceding year.

Hey Chop--A bit off topic, but you're chill enough to answer this: Does HF have any get-togethers? Parties? Meet-ups?

Forgive me if this is common knowledge around here. I'm still kinda new. But I think a HornFans party in Austin would be too sweet.

 

[Hoop]

This team is in a flat spin and has been for a long time. It's nearly unrecoverable at this point. This is a culture problem; not a coaching problem. It doesn't matter who we plug in at this point. The talent on this team is marginal at best and we shouldn't (especially now) expect much better. These days college football is about marketing and individual brand protection - not about actual football and it's worse here than most places.

This 'new' mediocrity template was written by USC, UCLA, and Miami awhile back. Fashionable places; just like Austin is now.

 

[Chop]

Hey Chop--A bit off topic, but you're chill enough to answer this: Does HF have any get-togethers? Parties? Meet-ups?

Forgive me if this is common knowledge around here. I'm still kinda new. But I think a HornFans party in Austin would be too sweet.

I dunno. Perhaps the best idea would be to start a new thread on it and see who's interested.

 

[longhornlegend]

I'm not sure Hudson can read bedtime stories. But Sark cost us that game by letting him play. Not moving up to avoid a fumble was bad, but the pick 6 is something only 1/1000 Middle School QB's would ever do.

Card did not cost this game. We gave up 56 points to kansas. They have a mediocre rb who averaged over 10yrd/carry. We have what should have been a heisman hopeful who gets hit when he is taking the handoff. Our OL sucks but this is on the D, hands down. This is almost like TT for many years where they just had to out score the opponent. If 50+ cant get you there, boot the DC.

 

[Handler]

How many DC have we fired in the last 7 years? At some point its not the DC, it's the players. These players are a joke. Look at former players tweets, they are disgusted with the players.

 

[horninchicago]

How many DC have we fired in the last 7 years? At some point its not the DC, it's the players. These players are a joke. Look at former players tweets, they are disgusted with the players.

I'm tending to agree. The many comments of poor schemes, etc., well, I don't know. I just think our players are poor tacklers and aren't angry enough to play defense.

Well, they are angry, alright, but can't post about that in this thread.

We have a lot of coaching experts, , around here who always see success at other programs, which brings a coach here, as a mirage. Well, what the hell? Why would a coach do well somewhere else and then suddenly look craptastic here? Every. Coach.

Maybe it ain't the coaches. Well, it is the last coach who hugged and kissed and recruited these clowns.

Let the debate continue.

 

[HornDawg1957]

I will say this.
That was not your normal bad Kansas team.
They should have beat OU.
They have been close in most games.

Actually, they haven't been close in most games. Ignoring their win Saturday and the 12-point OU loss, their closest conference loss was by 25 to K-State. TT beat 'em by 27, Baylor by 38, Okie State and Iowa State by 52.

 

[Vino Bevo]

I'm tending to agree. The many comments of poor schemes, etc., well, I don't know. I just think our players are poor tacklers and aren't angry enough to play defense.

Well, they are angry, alright, but can't post about that in this thread.

We have a lot of coaching experts, , around here who always see success at other programs, which brings a coach here, as a mirage. Well, what the hell? Why would a do well somewj=here else and then suddenly look craptastic here? Every. Coach.

Maybe it ain't the coaches. Well, it is the last coach who hugged and kissed and recruited these clowns.

Let the debate continue.

Tend to agree with you HIC. My high school coach once said offense is about discipline and execution, defense is about effort. In hindsight he was oversimplifying things to get a point across, but when you get down to it I don't think it's too far off base and the level of effort was clearly lacking on that side of the ball Saturday night.

 

[utempire]

Probably should have hired a DC that's familiar with the Big 12 style of play. It's also on the players and that we don't have enough talent and or depth at key positions, LB, OL, DL, and WR. Even as bad as we've played, we make a few stops here and there this season our record would be 7-3? This sounds crazy now, but I think the sec style of play is easier to defend with the right players. Even a great defense can get torched by a hot big 12 team which happened to us in the past when we were loaded on defense. Except for this year and a couple under Charlie, we could hang our hat on stopping the run.

 

[Run Pincher]

Card did not cost this game. We gave up 56 points to kansas. They have a mediocre rb who averaged over 10yrd/carry. We have what should have been a heisman hopeful who gets hit when he is taking the handoff. Our OL sucks but this is on the D, hands down. This is almost like TT for many years where they just had to out score the opponent. If 50+ cant get you there, boot the DC.

I said Sark, not Card. They are not the same person, and I don't blame Card. One of those things you mention is an easy decision fix. The other is a long term rework with a lot of issues. That easy decision could have at least given a win, but instead Texas is the laughing stock of college football.

I can't think of a single situation that rotating QB's has ever worked. And putting in a QB/RB hybrid for short yardage is not rotating QB's.

 

[Chinstrap]

Card did not cost this game. We gave up 56 points to kansas. They have a mediocre rb who averaged over 10yrd/carry. We have what should have been a heisman hopeful who gets hit when he is taking the handoff. Our OL sucks but this is on the D, hands down. This is almost like TT for many years where they just had to out score the opponent. If 50+ cant get you there, boot the DC.

The problems on defense?

-D line is getting pushed around
-linebackers are making plays too far behind the line, or not at all (long touchdown backbreaking runs by Arkansas, OU and Iowa State, and others, were same play over the Texas right side with nobody home)
-overall defense is much too slow
-players get blocked and beat on the corners
-pass coverage is way too soft (good example is two point conversions by OU and Kansas for the win on a very short field)
-tackling is better than previous years but still too many missed tackles (players leaving their feet, advantage ball carrier)

These issues are mostly on the players for one or more reasons; lack of athletic ability, poor development and/or failure to follow development and failure to execute, due to attitude. Coaching is an issue if attempts to develop, instruct or proper scheme is missing, but without witnessing practice and meetings how does one know about this? If players are simply not athletic enough, I guess it is a coaching issue, that being the previous coaches' recruiting. But some of these athletes can't help it that they are not great athletes. Some are attitudes and shame on them!

As much as it hurts me to admit there are smarter people than me, I will defer to other opinions and accept same, maybe. But if I am right, recruiting and the portal is the only fix.

 

[SabreHorn]

It does matter who the DC is as far as preparation and game plan. That said, it doesn't matter who it is as long as the same stupid **** players disregard their assignment and don't do their job. Perfect illustration is OU's winning TD. Oklahoma ran that same play twice, both times for TDs because the DL can't spell "false key" much less recognize it and instead of being in his gap, he was five yards out of position. I'd run his fat *** to Hillsboro & back.

 

[Chinstrap]

It does matter who the DC is as far as preparation and game plan. That said, it doesn't matter who it is as long as the same stupid **** players disregard their assignment and don't do their job. Perfect illustration is OU's winning TD. Oklahoma ran that same play twice, both times for TDs because the DL can't spell "false key" much less recognize it and instead of being in his gap, he was five yards out of position. I'd run his fat *** to Hillsboro & back.

Yea. OU saw it work against Texas in the Arkansas game and I am surprised other reams did not wear it out.