Patterson or Kwiatkowski?

moondog_LFZ said:
I was pounding my fist?
Interesting.
PK is the DC.
He is getting paid a DC salary.
If he was humble enough and open minded enough to accept advice from an analyst and put it to good use then I applaud him.
When GP is named DC I will applaud him.
In fact, I will applaud him for coming to UT as an analyst an offering his expert advice.
When he is named DC I will applaud him or give him grief for his game planning and play calling.
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Perhaps Patterson is at his perfect spot right now. Without the stress of being the actual coach, but with real coaching impact on the team. Plus, for the first time in his career, he has a team with superior talent to almost every opponent. And he can pursue his other dream of picking guitars and singing at clubs in the live music capital of the world. He’s an excellent D coach/analyst. And he’s not a bad small-stage/club country singer and guitarist. I’ve seen much worse on Austin stages before …
 
I am thinking this, "Plus, for the first time in his career, he has a team with superior talent to almost every opponent." seals the deal.
Well hoping it does.
He can actually have his kind of fun, devising innovative Ds with out worrying about the offense.
Unfortunately I can also see the NFL come calling
 
Word on the street is that Patterson was working on the defensive game plan for weeks heading up to the game. It definitely looked like a Patterson defense yesterday, either way, Patterson won't be an analyst or special assistant or whatever for long, someone will pick him up. Hopefully PK and the rest of the staff can pick his brain and adopt before he leaves.
 
aUTfan said:
Word on the street is that Patterson was working on the defensive game plan for weeks heading up to the game. It definitely looked like a Patterson defense yesterday, either way, Patterson won't be an analyst or special assistant or whatever for long, someone will pick him up. Hopefully PK and the rest of the staff can pick his brain and adopt before he leaves.
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Maybe but Patterson is one of those not so easy to read guys. He was loyal to TCU in a way they did not deserve. I suspect Texas appreciates and is willing to pay Patterson and maybe through in a tenured professorship in give a sh!t if he wants the roll. He doesn't need the money and why deal w the NFL bull when he can be the man behind the Orange Curtain. I could see him leave for a top notch ie top 10 college job but aren't many open and Jimbo just killed the momentum started by Sumlin.
 
I was wondering this same thing during the game as our defense had clearly made great improvement over last year : who's the architect behind this turnaround?

When Patterson was brought on board it reminded me an awful lot of Greg Robinson being added to the staff in 2013. The fraud that is Manny Diaz was already being exposed as the 2012 season wound down and it was obvious he would be on a short rope if he was even retained. Greg Robinson was brought on as a consultant but his alternate role became crystal clear after BYU ran for 550 yards on us and Diaz was fired the next day. Greg Robinson made an immediate impact on our defense and we played much better the rest of the season. I'm not saying PK is a fraud but last year was not our standard on defense and Patterson being here reminds me a lot of that 2013 season.
 
Agree SN
Unless Patterson wants to be a head coach could any place be better than Texas? He is welcomed and appreciated. He and Sark
appear to have a great relationship. I hope he and PK do as well.
How much fun is it for him to have talent to utilize his great schemes? The Fox team commented over and over on how our D was mixing up schemes that worked.
I hope he stays a long time.
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
This. I have no clue why people can't just accept that THIS is the simple truth.
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Certainly in the realm of possibilities, I sure hope it's the case. I know if i was in his position I would but there aren't many examples out there where guys who are competent stay and he's too good not to be plucked as a defensive coordinator at a minimum. I mean how many teams are wanting to slow down bama? (all of them)

I think he sits on this position till he finds just the right spot for him, there are probably 10 teams that have called him already after that game yesterday interested in him as a head coach. Many of them he wont be interested in.

I guess $$ could be somewhat of an influence, i don't remember what they are paying him here but he's worth a lot of money on this staff just for the imparting of his defensive/recruiting - IQ/knowledge.......every.penny.

My 1st dream would be that he is satisfied being in this position and my 2nd would be that maybe within the next year or two PK gets a head coaching job and Patterson slides into the defensive coordinator position. I just don't have a lot of faith in either of those scenarios and hope the staff soaks up everything they can while he is here.
 
Last year PK inherited a terrible D - no scheming or coaching up could fill the gap. He has had a full year to put in place the players that have the type of mentality and skills to execute his D. What you are seeing these past 2 games on D has nothing to with GP - if anything GP is learning from PK. Look at all of the players PK has sent to the pros while at Boise and UW. Most were lower star kids who became absolute beasts. This is what you will be seeing now. Players being put into roles that leverages their strengths and with schemes that make offenses stutter. PK had the D on the last series set up to shut Alabama down. One very poorly executed tackle on a blitz was the difference. Ryan W did not have the benefit of being coached by PK for year (transfer portal player from OSU) else he would know how to better handle that blitz situation. The best thing about PK is he does not give a sh%t about what others think - he knows he is good and just wants to coach D. Looks for a lock down D from Texas this year.
 
Gary Patterson was the best coach my son ever had.

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Just an observation (go ahead and poop)... when Bama started running the QB in the 4th quarter like most teams did to Texas last year starting with Caleb Williams, they seemed to move the ball with relative ease. Comments: I thought O'brien was hugely over ranked at PSU and he certainly deserved to be fired by the Texans. I think O'brien is terrible. One cannot argue that the defensive effort was 100x better than last year, I am just not completely sold on the D. I will reserve judgment until October 23. Poop again, but remember this Bama team lost a road game to A&M and Fisher last year, so they were not exactly world beaters on the road last year and it seems it is carrying over to this year. We will see. Anyway, I really hope it is turned around and my slow reaction to join the bandwagon is just a sign of old age
 
Honestly, if it were feasible, I would say make Gary Patterson the HC and Sark the OC. Unfortunately that will not happen. I really do not want Patterson to get away. Maybe Sark can somehow get an NFL job and Patterson will become the HC... that is my best case scenario at the moment.
 
Chop said:
Perhaps Patterson is at his perfect spot right now. Without the stress of being the actual coach, but with real coaching impact on the team. Plus, for the first time in his career, he has a team with superior talent to almost every opponent. And he can pursue his other dream of picking guitars and singing at clubs in the live music capital of the world. He’s an excellent D coach/analyst. And he’s not a bad small-stage/club country singer and guitarist. I’ve seen much worse on Austin stages before …
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I know Patterson had less talent at TCU, as measured by Chip and Ketch, but based on NFL talent evaluation of college upperclassmen he may have had better football players. Some of that may have been development. I just think Patterson's people were better at talent evaluation than Hudl and Rivals.
 
old65horn said:
based on what specifically?
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Good question, only answer I have is that the defense slowed bama down, flew to the ball, like they believed in the coaches philosophy for slowing bama, much like TCU defenses did and since PK has been here (I know it’s only been a year) I haven’t seen that yet until GP came in.

and i don’t see this as a negative at all, I expect PK and sark to be mature individuals and would welcome with open arms GP’s defensive game plan in such a game. Best way to learn from him is to let him loose and start asking detailed questions about the moves you think would be different from your own and seek to understand. I wish PK success and don’t blame last year on him although it’s a data point that should be included until it’s proven to be an outlier.

just my two cents of how I would handle it in their shoes. GP put out a wonderful tweet saying it’s “we not me” regarding the excellent play, essentially you need to thank the whole staff and I thought it was great that he did but not unexpected of someone that is now connected to this school. Class act.
 
aUTfan said:
Good question, only answer I have is that the defense slowed bama down, flew to the ball, like they believed in the coaches philosophy for slowing bama, much like TCU defenses did and since PK has been here (I know it’s only been a year) I haven’t seen that yet until GP came in.

and i don’t see this as a negative at all, I expect PK and sark to be mature individuals and would welcome with open arms GP’s defensive game plan in such a game. Best way to learn from him is to let him loose and start asking detailed questions about the moves you think would be different from your own and seek to understand. I wish PK success and don’t blame last year on him although it’s a data point that should be included until it’s proven to be an outlier.

just my two cents of how I would handle it in their shoes. GP put out a wonderful tweet saying it’s “we not me” regarding the excellent play, essentially you need to thank the whole staff and I thought it was great that he did but not unexpected of someone that is now connected to this school. Class act.
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Good read. Can't agree more.
 
Horn6721 said:
Beeman
I think/hope Patterson is enjoying his role and relationship with Sark and Pk.
Your point about not having the grind is good.
I don't think he needs the money but if he does we can find it.
A thought , if defense is your passion what could be better than being able to ply your craft at Texas where you have talent facilities and respect?
Will he get to the point he misses being a head coach? Who knows Mack did
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GP just needs an NIL deal to come good way in Austin.
 
Horn6721 said:
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If there can't be an NIL deal for an advisor I am sure there is a BMD bidness dude who can step up
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Hmmmmm. Either that, or have an annual alumni billionaires ball where Patterson is hired for $1.5 million for the musical entertainment. You know he is a country & western musician.
 
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